Scott Jones
It is just sad when I read about cyclist being killed.
What is worse, is today on my lunch I walk out of the office building to see
a messenger almost get killed by a parked car pulling out of a spot. Oh,
before you spout off about the driver, it was not the drivers fault because
the messenger was riding the WRONG WAY on a one way, oh and without a
helmet.
These are the things that drivers complain about and the rest of us get
yelled at for! Can't we just follow the rules of the road?
Be safe out there everyone.
2008/6/3 Randy Dreiling :
> Sounds like by all accounts this sadly was the bike riders fault.
> Sounds like he ran a light.
>
> Randy Dreiling
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: john
> To: OBRA
> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 9:39:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eugene cyclist killed today
>
> Seatbelts compared to helmets is like comparing a green bean to an
> apple. they are both food but thats it. I bet the majority of automobile
> fatal accidents are due to head injury too. And no one is asking if the
> person was wearing a helmet.
>
>
>
> The majority of fatal bicycle and motorcycle accidents are due to
> automobiles(drivers...) . Don't forget that. emphasis should be on the
> real issue, similar to issues in Iraq, its not going to help much to just
> hand out bullet proof vest and helmets to everyone, the root issue must be
> addressed.
>
>
>
> Helmets are great and everything, but training and education are 100 times
> more important.
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 6/3/08, J.Michael Manning * wrote:
>
> From: J.Michael Manning
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eugene cyclist killed today
> To: masessa@charter.net, "OBRA"
> Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 8:58 AM
>
> When the story reports that the cyclist was wearing no helmet, it paints
> a certain picture of the cyclist. One that I do not identify with. As well,
> I typically make the false assumption that a cyclist without a helmet is not
> a "real" cyclist, and is therefore just one of those knuckleheads out there
> that make us all look irresponsible. But the truth is that I do sometimes
> see racing cyclists who still wish to defy the odds and ignore good
> commonsense by riding in traffic with air blowing in the wind. Helmets are
> an issue and the statistics support the fact that the majority of fatal
> accidents for bicyclists and motorcyclists are due to head trauma.
> Mike Manning
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:50:39 -0700
> > From: masessa@charter.net
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eugene cyclist killed today
> >
> > It's not really just a bicycle thing to mention whether a rider was
> wearing a helmet. Most auto accident reports make a statement about the
> driver or passenger wearing a seatbelt or not. It's included because it's
> the first question people hearing about an accident ask. If it's not there
> you wonder "were they wearing a helmet/seatbelt?".
> >
> > ---- gschreckchat@comcast.net wrote:
> > > They mention in in all bicycle injuries. When the woman was crished by
> a truck in downtown Portland this year, they mentioned that she was wearing
> a helmet, as if somehow if she had not been wearing a helment, she would
> have been at fault when the truck crushed her. They also mentioned it when a
> guy was hit at 50 mph, as if a styrofoam beer cooler on his head would have
> saved him when getting hit at 50 mph. Somehow it has become the mantra of
> all reporters when reporting on bicycle/vehicle collissions.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > George Schreck
> > > gschreckchat@comcast.net
> > > (503) 502-0425
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: Erik
> > > I like how they fail to mention any head trauma, but point out that he
> wasn't wearing a helmet anyway. As if that would've saved him from an impact
> that was hard enough to throw his bike 20 feet into the air.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:03:20 -0700
> > > > From: cdbrandt@gmail.com
> > > > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > > > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Eugene cyclist killed today
> > > >
> > > >
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