Re: Alpenrose Status

Mike Murray

2008-06-06

I am forwarding to the guys involved with this so they ca get it fixed.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: john [mailto:twotiretinker-obra2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:36 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org; mike.murray@obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

The pledge thing doesn't work. I have several times over the last year and
half or so.

--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Mike Murray wrote:

From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 10:01 AM

Even with webcam and people answering the phone it is difficult to predict

whether or not we will be racing. We have several times seen it raining a

hour before racing but clear by the time racing starts. Or there are nights

like last night where it was pouring rain just a few blocks away from the

track but dry at the velodrome. We started racing, ran the Madison and then

stopped the second race with 4 laps to go due to rain. That is just the way

it is going to be. If you don't like it pledge support to an indoor

velodrome at http://www.pdxvelo.org/support.html.

We won't generally make a call about if we will be racing before 30 minutes

prior to racing start time. There is no reason to call our house earlier in

the day, as many do, to ask about whether we are going to be racing. I live

in Gresham, 20 miles away from the velodrome in a completely different

weather system. We really can't predict the future any more than anyone

else. If the weather is iffy you just have to make a guess. Sometimes you

will race and sometimes you will not.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On

Behalf Of Steven Beardsley

Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:43 PM

To: obra@list.obra.org

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

503-246-0330. Someone is usually there two hours before the race starts.

I know that Mike Murray is looking into a way to put a webcam up.

-----Original Message-----

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On

Behalf Of Michael Ford

Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:41 PM

To: obra@list.obra.org

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

You know, this raises an interesting question; maybe somebody has an idea:

Where I live, in Salem, the weather patterns are often different from in

Portland, and often I've arrived at Alpenrose to find racing canceled

because of rain--or stayed home THINKING it would be canceled, only to find

out later that racing was on as usual. Since the trip involves 45 miles each

way in rush-hour traffic, I don't make it lightly. But I suspect the

guessing-game is still a major annoyance even for racers who live in

Portland proper.

Is there some reliable way to report whether or not racing is going to be

on, say up to an hour or so before the start time? Maybe an OBRA member who

works at the dairy and who could post an online notice? Or a telephone

number? or a "track cam" or moisture-indicator or something connected

to a

website?

I'm not a techy, or a very good tracky, but it would seem that in this

digital age, and with the high cost of gas, there would be an easy way of

providing a service like this.

Mike

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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:58:43 -0400

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose status?

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The pledge thing doesn't work.  I have tried several times over the last year and half or so.  I am sure i am not the only one.  And yes i have sent emails letting people know, to no avail.

--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Mike Murray <mike.murray@obra.org> wrote:

From: Mike Murray <mike.murray@obra.org>
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 10:01 AM

Even with webcam and people answering the phone it is difficult to predict
whether or not we will be racing. We have several times seen it raining a
hour before racing but clear by the time racing starts. Or there are nights
like last night where it was pouring rain just a few blocks away from the
track but dry at the velodrome. We started racing, ran the Madison and then
stopped the second race with 4 laps to go due to rain. That is just the way
it is going to be. If you don't like it pledge support to an indoor
velodrome at http://www.pdxvelo.org/support.html.

We won't generally make a call about if we will be racing before 30 minutes
prior to racing start time. There is no reason to call our house earlier in
the day, as many do, to ask about whether we are going to be racing. I live
in Gresham, 20 miles away from the velodrome in a completely different
weather system. We really can't predict the future any more than anyone
else. If the weather is iffy you just have to make a guess. Sometimes you
will race and sometimes you will not.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Beardsley
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:43 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

503-246-0330. Someone is usually there two hours before the race starts.

I know that Mike Murray is looking into a way to put a webcam up.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Ford
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:41 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

You know, this raises an interesting question; maybe somebody has an idea:

Where I live, in Salem, the weather patterns are often different from in
Portland, and often I've arrived at Alpenrose to find racing canceled
because of rain--or stayed home THINKING it would be canceled, only to find
out later that racing was on as usual. Since the trip involves 45 miles each
way in rush-hour traffic, I don't make it lightly. But I suspect the
guessing-game is still a major annoyance even for racers who live in
Portland proper.

Is there some reliable way to report whether or not racing is going to be
on, say up to an hour or so before the start time? Maybe an OBRA member who
works at the dairy and who could post an online notice? Or a telephone
number? or a "track cam" or moisture-indicator or something connected
to a
website?

I'm not a techy, or a very good tracky, but it would seem that in this
digital age, and with the high cost of gas, there would be an easy way of
providing a service like this.

Mike

Message: 28
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:58:43 -0400
From: "Nathan Spear" <ns@nathanspear.com>
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose status?
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The pledge thing doesn't work.  I have several times over the last year and half or so.

--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Mike Murray <mike.murray@obra.org> wrote:

From: Mike Murray <mike.murray@obra.org>
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 10:01 AM

Even with webcam and people answering the phone it is difficult to predict
whether or not we will be racing. We have several times seen it raining a
hour before racing but clear by the time racing starts. Or there are nights
like last night where it was pouring rain just a few blocks away from the
track but dry at the velodrome. We started racing, ran the Madison and then
stopped the second race with 4 laps to go due to rain. That is just the way
it is going to be. If you don't like it pledge support to an indoor
velodrome at http://www.pdxvelo.org/support.html.

We won't generally make a call about if we will be racing before 30 minutes
prior to racing start time. There is no reason to call our house earlier in
the day, as many do, to ask about whether we are going to be racing. I live
in Gresham, 20 miles away from the velodrome in a completely different
weather system. We really can't predict the future any more than anyone
else. If the weather is iffy you just have to make a guess. Sometimes you
will race and sometimes you will not.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Beardsley
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:43 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

503-246-0330. Someone is usually there two hours before the race starts.

I know that Mike Murray is looking into a way to put a webcam up.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Ford
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:41 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

You know, this raises an interesting question; maybe somebody has an idea:

Where I live, in Salem, the weather patterns are often different from in
Portland, and often I've arrived at Alpenrose to find racing canceled
because of rain--or stayed home THINKING it would be canceled, only to find
out later that racing was on as usual. Since the trip involves 45 miles each
way in rush-hour traffic, I don't make it lightly. But I suspect the
guessing-game is still a major annoyance even for racers who live in
Portland proper.

Is there some reliable way to report whether or not racing is going to be
on, say up to an hour or so before the start time? Maybe an OBRA member who
works at the dairy and who could post an online notice? Or a telephone
number? or a "track cam" or moisture-indicator or something connected
to a
website?

I'm not a techy, or a very good tracky, but it would seem that in this
digital age, and with the high cost of gas, there would be an easy way of
providing a service like this.

Mike

Message: 28
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:58:43 -0400
From: "Nathan Spear" <ns@nathanspear.com>
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose status?
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Mike Murray

2008-06-06

Even with webcam and people answering the phone it is difficult to predict
whether or not we will be racing. We have several times seen it raining a
hour before racing but clear by the time racing starts. Or there are nights
like last night where it was pouring rain just a few blocks away from the
track but dry at the velodrome. We started racing, ran the Madison and then
stopped the second race with 4 laps to go due to rain. That is just the way
it is going to be. If you don't like it pledge support to an indoor
velodrome at http://www.pdxvelo.org/support.html.

We won't generally make a call about if we will be racing before 30 minutes
prior to racing start time. There is no reason to call our house earlier in
the day, as many do, to ask about whether we are going to be racing. I live
in Gresham, 20 miles away from the velodrome in a completely different
weather system. We really can't predict the future any more than anyone
else. If the weather is iffy you just have to make a guess. Sometimes you
will race and sometimes you will not.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Beardsley
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:43 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

503-246-0330. Someone is usually there two hours before the race starts.

I know that Mike Murray is looking into a way to put a webcam up.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Ford
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:41 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

You know, this raises an interesting question; maybe somebody has an idea:

Where I live, in Salem, the weather patterns are often different from in
Portland, and often I've arrived at Alpenrose to find racing canceled
because of rain--or stayed home THINKING it would be canceled, only to find
out later that racing was on as usual. Since the trip involves 45 miles each
way in rush-hour traffic, I don't make it lightly. But I suspect the
guessing-game is still a major annoyance even for racers who live in
Portland proper.

Is there some reliable way to report whether or not racing is going to be
on, say up to an hour or so before the start time? Maybe an OBRA member who
works at the dairy and who could post an online notice? Or a telephone
number? or a "track cam" or moisture-indicator or something connected to a
website?

I'm not a techy, or a very good tracky, but it would seem that in this
digital age, and with the high cost of gas, there would be an easy way of
providing a service like this.

Mike

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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:58:43 -0400
From: "Nathan Spear"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose status?
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Steven Beardsley

2008-06-05

503-246-0330. Someone is usually there two hours before the race starts.

I know that Mike Murray is looking into a way to put a webcam up.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Ford
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:41 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose Status

You know, this raises an interesting question; maybe somebody has an idea:

Where I live, in Salem, the weather patterns are often different from in
Portland, and often I've arrived at Alpenrose to find racing canceled
because of rain--or stayed home THINKING it would be canceled, only to find
out later that racing was on as usual. Since the trip involves 45 miles each
way in rush-hour traffic, I don't make it lightly. But I suspect the
guessing-game is still a major annoyance even for racers who live in
Portland proper.

Is there some reliable way to report whether or not racing is going to be
on, say up to an hour or so before the start time? Maybe an OBRA member who
works at the dairy and who could post an online notice? Or a telephone
number? or a "track cam" or moisture-indicator or something connected to a
website?

I'm not a techy, or a very good tracky, but it would seem that in this
digital age, and with the high cost of gas, there would be an easy way of
providing a service like this.

Mike

Message: 28
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:58:43 -0400
From: "Nathan Spear"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose status?
To:
Message-ID:

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Is the track dry today?
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Michael Ford

2008-06-05

You know, this raises an interesting question; maybe somebody has an idea:

Where I live, in Salem, the weather patterns are often different from in Portland, and often I've arrived at Alpenrose to find racing canceled because of rain--or stayed home THINKING it would be canceled, only to find out later that racing was on as usual. Since the trip involves 45 miles each way in rush-hour traffic, I don't make it lightly. But I suspect the guessing-game is still a major annoyance even for racers who live in Portland proper.

Is there some reliable way to report whether or not racing is going to be on, say up to an hour or so before the start time? Maybe an OBRA member who works at the dairy and who could post an online notice? Or a telephone number? or a "track cam" or moisture-indicator or something connected to a website?

I'm not a techy, or a very good tracky, but it would seem that in this digital age, and with the high cost of gas, there would be an easy way of providing a service like this.

Mike

Message: 28
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:58:43 -0400
From: "Nathan Spear"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose status?
To:
Message-ID:

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Is the track dry today?