Best Way to Keep Water Out of Frame?

NW Cyclist

2008-06-06

I have also used the JP Weigle Frame Saver in my steel MTB frame, now 10
years later, it's still going strong (I re-apply every couple of years). I
completely disassembled the bike and sprayed small amounts into every
hole possible, then I spin the frame around several times to make sure the
stuff covers all of the inside tubes, joints etc. I do that a couple of
times then reassemble the bike. Be sure to remove the BB and head set, the
stuff really does work.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Chris Robinson
wrote:

> as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a dedicated
> "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from getting into the frame on
> my training bike when I ride on rainy/wet days
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water into the frame, usually means into the seat tube from the seatpost fit into the frame. it seems like regardless of amount of grease someone might use here, water still will get in.  So  Fenders are the best thing. if you have little L-shape bracket off your brake bolt, drill two holes in it and a cut fender, zip tie to secure.  and now you have a relatively quick on off fender.  leave the little bracket...
 
also Drill a hole in Bottom bracket shell .  or use a hollow bolt or etc for the hole for your cable guide.  ie you just want some sort of "drain" on the bottom of bb shell..
 
Non steel frame:  dont' worry about the water but i would still drill a hole in bb shell.  
steel frame:  spray framesaver, Starrett m1 or boeshield or some other "coating left behind" light lube into the frame.   
 
The lighter thinner tube the steel frame the more anal you need to be.   at .5 or .4 or mm wall thickness  a small rust pit or two is all it takes for a stress concentration and then possible crack growth / fatigue failure. 

--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Erik Voldengen <erikv@erikv.com> wrote:

From: Erik Voldengen <erikv@erikv.com>
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Best Way to Keep Water Out of Frame?
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 1:41 PM

I got a frame treatment spray stuff called "Frame Saver."  Sounds like what Carrie is talking about.  It's foamy, brown, and nasty, but it protects the insides of your steel frame.

-Erik

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Carrie Barton <carrieb@zebrafish.org> wrote:

You won't keep all the water out, so it's best not to try and seal it
up as you will trap it in your frame allowing it to do more damage.
I'm assuming your frame is steel given your concern with water?  I
would suggest having it Weigled.  Weigle is a spray that seals  the
inside of your frame so water that gets in won't rust it.
Application is a bit messy, but it works and is well worth extending
the life of your frame.

Carrie

On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Chris Robinson wrote:

> as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a
> dedicated "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from
> getting  into the frame on my training bike when I ride on rainy/
> wet days
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Jason A. Skelton

2008-06-06

In addition to doing what others have said, I have had success putting a piece of inner tube around my seat collar. A lot of water enters here. Greasing the seat post also keeps some water out.

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as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a dedicated "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from getting into the frame on my training bike when I ride on rainy/wet days
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ENGELMANN Michael

2008-06-06

It's indeed the same goop. JP Weigle is the framebuilder who invented
and/or first marketed it. One can is probably enough for a couple jobs.
Just make sure you do it over a dropcloth and have plenty of crap towels
handy.

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik Voldengen
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:41 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Best Way to Keep Water Out of Frame?

I got a frame treatment spray stuff called "Frame Saver." Sounds like
what Carrie is talking about. It's foamy, brown, and nasty, but it
protects the insides of your steel frame.

-Erik

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Carrie Barton
wrote:

You won't keep all the water out, so it's best not to try and seal it
up as you will trap it in your frame allowing it to do more damage.
I'm assuming your frame is steel given your concern with water? I
would suggest having it Weigled. Weigle is a spray that seals the
inside of your frame so water that gets in won't rust it.
Application is a bit messy, but it works and is well worth extending
the life of your frame.

Carrie

On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Chris Robinson wrote:

> as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a
> dedicated "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from
> getting into the frame on my training bike when I ride on rainy/
> wet days
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Chip Sloan

2008-06-06

Yep. My Stewie cross bike gets framesavered after each season to
prepare for the next.

On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:47 PM, "Joe Cipale" wrote:

> I frame-saver my CoMo once a year when it goes in for its yearly
> tune-up and bloodletting.
>
> Joe
>
> Erik Voldengen wrote:
>
>> I got a frame treatment spray stuff called "Frame Saver." Sounds
>> like what
>> Carrie is talking about. It's foamy, brown, and nasty, but it
>> protects the
>> insides of your steel frame.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Carrie Barton
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You won't keep all the water out, so it's best not to try and seal
>>> it
>>> up as you will trap it in your frame allowing it to do more damage.
>>> I'm assuming your frame is steel given your concern with water? I
>>> would suggest having it Weigled. Weigle is a spray that seals the
>>> inside of your frame so water that gets in won't rust it.
>>> Application is a bit messy, but it works and is well worth extending
>>> the life of your frame.
>>>
>>> Carrie
>>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Chris Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>>> as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a
>>>> dedicated "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from
>>>> getting into the frame on my training bike when I ride on rainy/
>>>> wet days
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Joe Cipale

2008-06-06

I frame-saver my CoMo once a year when it goes in for its yearly tune-up and bloodletting.

Joe

Erik Voldengen wrote:

> I got a frame treatment spray stuff called "Frame Saver." Sounds like what
> Carrie is talking about. It's foamy, brown, and nasty, but it protects the
> insides of your steel frame.
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Carrie Barton wrote:
>
> > You won't keep all the water out, so it's best not to try and seal it
> > up as you will trap it in your frame allowing it to do more damage.
> > I'm assuming your frame is steel given your concern with water? I
> > would suggest having it Weigled. Weigle is a spray that seals the
> > inside of your frame so water that gets in won't rust it.
> > Application is a bit messy, but it works and is well worth extending
> > the life of your frame.
> >
> > Carrie
> >
> > On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Chris Robinson wrote:
> >
> > > as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a
> > > dedicated "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from
> > > getting into the frame on my training bike when I ride on rainy/
> > > wet days
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Erik Voldengen

2008-06-06

I got a frame treatment spray stuff called "Frame Saver." Sounds like what
Carrie is talking about. It's foamy, brown, and nasty, but it protects the
insides of your steel frame.

-Erik

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Carrie Barton wrote:

> You won't keep all the water out, so it's best not to try and seal it
> up as you will trap it in your frame allowing it to do more damage.
> I'm assuming your frame is steel given your concern with water? I
> would suggest having it Weigled. Weigle is a spray that seals the
> inside of your frame so water that gets in won't rust it.
> Application is a bit messy, but it works and is well worth extending
> the life of your frame.
>
> Carrie
>
> On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Chris Robinson wrote:
>
> > as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a
> > dedicated "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from
> > getting into the frame on my training bike when I ride on rainy/
> > wet days
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
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Carrie Barton

2008-06-06

You won't keep all the water out, so it's best not to try and seal it
up as you will trap it in your frame allowing it to do more damage.
I'm assuming your frame is steel given your concern with water? I
would suggest having it Weigled. Weigle is a spray that seals the
inside of your frame so water that gets in won't rust it.
Application is a bit messy, but it works and is well worth extending
the life of your frame.

Carrie

On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Chris Robinson wrote:

> as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a
> dedicated "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from
> getting into the frame on my training bike when I ride on rainy/
> wet days
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Chris Robinson

2008-06-06

as a teen bicycle racer I'm on a tight budget and can't buy a dedicated "rain" bike...is there any way to keep water from getting into the frame on my training bike when I ride on rainy/wet days