OBRA: OBRA Chat: Tom Boonen Lastest Caught

Rick C Johnson

2008-06-11

Indeed, that's what troubles me most about this. Despite the guys
personal problems broken down into it's simplest sequence the story reads:

Person is drug tested because they race bicycles.
Drug test detects what is best termed recreational use of a prohibited
substance.
There is clearly no violation of competition rules for which the test
was conducted.
Regardless the police are notified and a search is conducted of the
persons property.
Additionally the persons parents home is searched.
No further evidence of illegal activity is found.
The media is notified before charges, if any, are filed.

But I guess that's ok since we all know drug tests are infallible and
the highest duty of the state is to protect the individual from harming
themselves.

Rick

gschreckchat@comcast.net wrote:

> No, not if you understand the reason for drug testing athletes. It is
> to prevent people from taking performance enhancing drugs, not to act
> as a police force.
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> George Schreck
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> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Lisa Winchester
> This is my favorite excerpt from that article:
>
> anti-doping officials say the rider will not face suspension since
> use of the drug is not specifically banned except in competition.
>
>
> It's not illegal in that country? Isn't that enough? Maybe we
> should ask old Marco Pantani about it.
>
>
> ~Lisa Winchester
> __o "It never gets easier,
> _ \<_ you just go faster."
> (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
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> From: bikexcr@hotmail.com
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> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:26 -0700
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tom Boonen Lastest Caught
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> The golden child, Tom Boonen has been caught. Read the
> Velonews article. That sucks.
>
>
> http://www.velonews.com/article/77383/boonen-tests-positive-for-cocaine
>
>
> But at least its cocaine and not EPO or Testosterone. Right?
>
>
> "Cocaine is a hell of a drug." - Rick James
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gschreckchat@comcast.net

2008-06-11

No, not if you understand the reason for drug testing athletes. It is to prevent people from taking performance enhancing drugs, not to act as a police force.

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-------------- Original message --------------
From: Lisa Winchester
This is my favorite excerpt from that article:

anti-doping officials say the rider will not face suspension since use of the drug is not specifically banned except in competition.

It's not illegal in that country? Isn't that enough? Maybe we should ask old Marco Pantani about it.

~Lisa Winchester
__o "It never gets easier,
_ \<_ you just go faster."
(_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond

From: bikexcr@hotmail.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:26 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tom Boonen Lastest Caught

The golden child, Tom Boonen has been caught. Read the Velonews article. That sucks.

http://www.velonews.com/article/77383/boonen-tests-positive-for-cocaine

But at least its cocaine and not EPO or Testosterone. Right?

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug." - Rick James

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Dave Campbell

2008-06-10

Brings up an important point that Mike Murray has made and a very well-written article in VeloNews made...

The BIGGER issue is not cheating but rather SUBSTANCE ABUSE. This is a pattern of self-destructive behavior that hurts people. Athletes that use EPO, etc are more likely to do Coke, Speed, etc. all at great cost to themselves and the greater society. Opening Pandora's box so to speak. Ethics are ethics and a stronger personal stance in one area generally applies in others.

DC
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa Winchester
To: T B ; OBRA list
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tom Boonen Lastest Caught

This is my favorite excerpt from that article:

anti-doping officials say the rider will not face suspension since use of the drug is not specifically banned except in competition.

It's not illegal in that country? Isn't that enough? Maybe we should ask old Marco Pantani about it.

~Lisa Winchester
__o "It never gets easier,
_ \<_ you just go faster."
(_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond

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From: bikexcr@hotmail.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:26 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tom Boonen Lastest Caught

The golden child, Tom Boonen has been caught. Read the Velonews article. That sucks.

http://www.velonews.com/article/77383/boonen-tests-positive-for-cocaine

But at least its cocaine and not EPO or Testosterone. Right?

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug." - Rick James

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Rick Johnson

2008-06-10

Caught may not be the most appropriate word. The police found nothing
in their searches and the drug is only illegal in cycling if detected
during competition, which in this case it was not. It only adds up to
an accusation that he used a drug in his off time. Of course that's so
rare these days...

Embarrassing for sure though, especially when he's looking for a new
job.

Rick

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The golden child, Tom Boonen has been
caught. Read the Velonews article. That sucks.

http://www.velonews.com/article/77383/boonen-tests-positive-for-cocaine

But at least its cocaine and not EPO or Testosterone. Right?

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug." - Rick James

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Erik Voldengen

2008-06-10

Uh, no, that's most definitely not enough.

-Erik

2008/6/10 Lisa Winchester :

> This is my favorite excerpt from that article:
>
> anti-doping officials say the rider will not face suspension since use of
> the drug is not specifically banned except in competition.
>
>
> It's not illegal in that country? Isn't that enough? Maybe we should ask
> old Marco Pantani about it.
>
>
> ~Lisa Winchester
> __o "It never gets easier,
> _ \<_ you just go faster."
> (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
>
>
>

Lisa Winchester

2008-06-10

This is my favorite excerpt from that article:

anti-doping officials say the rider will not face suspension since use of the drug is not specifically banned except in competition.

It's not illegal in that country? Isn't that enough? Maybe we should ask old Marco Pantani about it.

~Lisa Winchester
__o "It never gets easier, _ \<_ you just go faster." (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond

From: bikexcr@hotmail.comTo: obra@list.obra.orgDate: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:26 -0700Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tom Boonen Lastest Caught

The golden child, Tom Boonen has been caught. Read the Velonews article. That sucks. http://www.velonews.com/article/77383/boonen-tests-positive-for-cocaineBut at least its cocaine and not EPO or Testosterone. Right?"Cocaine is a hell of a drug." - Rick James

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T B

2008-06-10

The golden child, Tom Boonen has been caught. Read the Velonews article. That sucks.

http://www.velonews.com/article/77383/boonen-tests-positive-for-cocaine

But at least its cocaine and not EPO or Testosterone. Right?

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug." - Rick James

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