Karsten Hagen
The real question is...will there be a 9 tooth cog?
Karsten
On 6/18/08 5:57 PM, "Erik" wrote:
> Don't get me wrong about Mavic. Just like a lot of wheel companies, Mavic
> makes good wheels, they're just overpriced, heavy, and use a lot of
> proprietary parts that can be difficult to find.
>
> So, yeah, they're fantasitc . . . if you're loaded and you never ride your
> bike enough to need a rebuild.
>
> What do I recommend as an alternative? Anything hand made in a bike shop.
> Any good mechanic half-awake can build you a better wheel for less money. My
> race wheels come in at 1300g and would retail for about $650. Better yet, if
> I total the rear wheel I can walk into any bike shop and have it rebuilt
> inside of a week for less than $100. With Mavic, American Classic, or anybody
> else the same issue will cost me at least double that (I was once quoted $230
> + shipping for an AMclassic rear rebuild) and I'd be without my race wheels
> for up to 8 weeks. If, knowing that, you still think cookie cutter pre-fab
> wheels are the only way to go, be my guest.
>
>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:12:01 -0700
>> From: news4joel@gmail.com
>> To: elongride@hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] At what point is enough enough?
>> CC: obra@list.obra.org
>>
>> I've been pretty pleased with Mavic's product. What do you suggest as an
>> alternative? On which merits? Always on the lookout for better product...
>>
>> -Joel
>>
>> 2008/6/18 Erik :
>>> Oooh, aahh . . . 11 cogs on the back end of a $9k Colnago. Obscenely
>>> wealthy & fat bike snobs everywhere rejoice at the prospect of yet another
>>> component installation to screw up.
>>>
>>> 10 is a nice, round number. I like 10. A 2x10 drivetrain can allow you to
>>> pedal at 90 rpm from 8mph all the way up to 40 on the same cassette. And
>>> our wheels are more or less interchangeable with 10spd. Whatever Campy has
>>> in mind, it isn't for our benefit.
>>>
>>> This crap will still sell, though, because it's labeled "Campagnolo". The
>>> combination of consumer ignorance and good marketing makes a flawless money
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> Then again, people eventually figured out that Spinergy wheels were complete
>>> crap, so maybe Campy is finally nearing the end of its absurd cult days.
>>>
>>> Then again, people still buy Mavic product, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:34:26 -0700
>>>> From: anquetil@yahoo.com
>>>> To: hagenkt@mac.com; joec@aracnet.com
>>>> CC: obra@list.obra.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] At what point is enough enough?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My favorite quote from the article explains it all:
>>>>
>>>> "Cyclists are never truly happy whether they are professionals or
>>>> amateurs."
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Joe Cipale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Joe Cipale
>>>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] At what point is enough enough?
>>>>> To: "Karsten Hagen"
>>>>> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:04 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.velonews.com/article/77895/tech-report-the-campagnolo-11-speed-
>>>>> super-record-group
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to me that at a certain point, the improvements are marginally
>>>>> incremental.
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