Kermesse Tires

Tim Schauer

2008-07-02

Yes. Sorry, I should have clarified that my input was for the Vanport series. CCX tires for Kruger"s and road tires for Vanport.

-Tim

From: Brooke Hoyer [mailto:pdx_ccx@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:34 PM
To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser; Tim Schauer; Jacob; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires

The question is, which Kermesse is Jacob talking about? Vanport or Krugers? I think Krugers is all dirt (farm access roads), no? Vanport is practically all pavement, right?

Brooke

Cyclocross blog

> From: rondot@spiritone.com
> To: TSchauer@mackaysposito.com; balderasjacob@hotmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:26:27 -0700
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
>
> I agree with Tim. Support it as it is a great way to do some racing on your
> road bike on something other than pavement. Cyclocross bike is a huge
> disadvantage unless you are uber strong to make up for the slower bike. It
> is NOT cyclocross but as stated in the promo... more of a true Kermesse.
> Ride fast and take lots of chances.
> rpon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Schauer"
> To: "Jacob" ;
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
>
>
> > My input is.....Road tires. Not cyclocross tires. The extended road
> > portions of this race venue will put lower pressure ccx tires at a
> > disadvantage. Most of the courses Jeff Mitchem ran in January were lots
> > good pavement and not a small part on the PIR track itself. The "off road"
> > portions were mostly old asphalt or very hard packed gravel with very very
> > little dirt/grass sections that could get muddy enough to warrant the
> > advantage of ccx tire traction. I ran high volume road tires. 700x25c. I
> > especially like the specialized Roubaix series tires which have a 25c
> > casing with a 23c tread width. I ran the Sworks open tubular version
> > without a flat for all three weeks. I'm very close to 200 lbs and I ran
> > them about 100-105 psi. My carbon road bike held up nicely as well. The
> > top end gearing of a road bike will be helpful (not totally essential
> > maybe, but helpful), over a lower geared cross bike.
> >
> >
> > Also, this is a great series. This kind of off road racing on road bikes
> > is a blast. If you haven't tried it, Please support it by coming out to
> > race, so we encourage more of these races in the future!
> >
> > -Tim Schauer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jacob
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:39 AM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
> >
> > Does anyone have a recommendation on tire selection for the upcoming
> > Kermesse races in September? Is a road bike with certain tires a good
> > choice, or more of a cyclocross set up?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > -Jacob
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Joel Morrissette

2008-07-02

Vanport: road tires.
Krugers: definitely 'cross tires. Gravel road/loose dirt/grass the whole
way.

-Joel

2008/7/2 Brooke Hoyer :

> The question is, which Kermesse is Jacob talking about? Vanport or
> Krugers? I think Krugers is all dirt (farm access roads), no? Vanport is
> practically all pavement, right?
>
> Brooke
>
> Cyclocross blog
>
> > From: rondot@spiritone.com
> > To: TSchauer@mackaysposito.com; balderasjacob@hotmail.com;
> obra@list.obra.org
> > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:26:27 -0700
>
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
> >
> > I agree with Tim. Support it as it is a great way to do some racing on
> your
> > road bike on something other than pavement. Cyclocross bike is a huge
> > disadvantage unless you are uber strong to make up for the slower bike.
> It
> > is NOT cyclocross but as stated in the promo... more of a true Kermesse.
> > Ride fast and take lots of chances.
> > rpon
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Schauer"
> > To: "Jacob" ;
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
> >
> >
> > > My input is.....Road tires. Not cyclocross tires. The extended road
> > > portions of this race venue will put lower pressure ccx tires at a
> > > disadvantage. Most of the courses Jeff Mitchem ran in January were lots
>
> > > good pavement and not a small part on the PIR track itself. The "off
> road"
> > > portions were mostly old asphalt or very hard packed gravel with very
> very
> > > little dirt/grass sections that could get muddy enough to warrant the
> > > advantage of ccx tire traction. I ran high volume road tires. 700x25c.
> I
> > > especially like the specialized Roubaix series tires which have a 25c
> > > casing with a 23c tread width. I ran the Sworks open tubular version
> > > without a flat for all three weeks. I'm very close to 200 lbs and I ran
>
> > > them about 100-105 psi. My carbon road bike held up nicely as well. The
>
> > > top end gearing of a road bike will be helpful (not totally essential
> > > maybe, but helpful), over a lower geared cross bike.
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, this is a great series. This kind of off road racing on road
> bikes
> > > is a blast. If you haven't tried it, Please support it by coming out to
>
> > > race, so we encourage more of these races in the future!
> > >
> > > -Tim Schauer
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Jacob
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:39 AM
> > > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a recommendation on tire selection for the upcoming
> > > Kermesse races in September? Is a road bike with certain tires a good
> > > choice, or more of a cyclocross set up?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > -Jacob
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > obra@list.obra.org
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Brooke Hoyer

2008-07-02

The question is, which Kermesse is Jacob talking about? Vanport or Krugers? I think Krugers is all dirt (farm access roads), no? Vanport is practically all pavement, right?

Brooke

Cyclocross blog

> From: rondot@spiritone.com
> To: TSchauer@mackaysposito.com; balderasjacob@hotmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:26:27 -0700
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
>
> I agree with Tim. Support it as it is a great way to do some racing on your
> road bike on something other than pavement. Cyclocross bike is a huge
> disadvantage unless you are uber strong to make up for the slower bike. It
> is NOT cyclocross but as stated in the promo... more of a true Kermesse.
> Ride fast and take lots of chances.
> rpon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Schauer"
> To: "Jacob" ;
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
>
>
> > My input is.....Road tires. Not cyclocross tires. The extended road
> > portions of this race venue will put lower pressure ccx tires at a
> > disadvantage. Most of the courses Jeff Mitchem ran in January were lots
> > good pavement and not a small part on the PIR track itself. The "off road"
> > portions were mostly old asphalt or very hard packed gravel with very very
> > little dirt/grass sections that could get muddy enough to warrant the
> > advantage of ccx tire traction. I ran high volume road tires. 700x25c. I
> > especially like the specialized Roubaix series tires which have a 25c
> > casing with a 23c tread width. I ran the Sworks open tubular version
> > without a flat for all three weeks. I'm very close to 200 lbs and I ran
> > them about 100-105 psi. My carbon road bike held up nicely as well. The
> > top end gearing of a road bike will be helpful (not totally essential
> > maybe, but helpful), over a lower geared cross bike.
> >
> >
> > Also, this is a great series. This kind of off road racing on road bikes
> > is a blast. If you haven't tried it, Please support it by coming out to
> > race, so we encourage more of these races in the future!
> >
> > -Tim Schauer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jacob
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:39 AM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
> >
> > Does anyone have a recommendation on tire selection for the upcoming
> > Kermesse races in September? Is a road bike with certain tires a good
> > choice, or more of a cyclocross set up?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > -Jacob
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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> >
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Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2008-07-02

I agree with Tim. Support it as it is a great way to do some racing on your
road bike on something other than pavement. Cyclocross bike is a huge
disadvantage unless you are uber strong to make up for the slower bike. It
is NOT cyclocross but as stated in the promo... more of a true Kermesse.
Ride fast and take lots of chances.
rpon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Schauer"
To: "Jacob" ;
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires

> My input is.....Road tires. Not cyclocross tires. The extended road
> portions of this race venue will put lower pressure ccx tires at a
> disadvantage. Most of the courses Jeff Mitchem ran in January were lots
> good pavement and not a small part on the PIR track itself. The "off road"
> portions were mostly old asphalt or very hard packed gravel with very very
> little dirt/grass sections that could get muddy enough to warrant the
> advantage of ccx tire traction. I ran high volume road tires. 700x25c. I
> especially like the specialized Roubaix series tires which have a 25c
> casing with a 23c tread width. I ran the Sworks open tubular version
> without a flat for all three weeks. I'm very close to 200 lbs and I ran
> them about 100-105 psi. My carbon road bike held up nicely as well. The
> top end gearing of a road bike will be helpful (not totally essential
> maybe, but helpful), over a lower geared cross bike.
>
>
> Also, this is a great series. This kind of off road racing on road bikes
> is a blast. If you haven't tried it, Please support it by coming out to
> race, so we encourage more of these races in the future!
>
> -Tim Schauer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Jacob
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:39 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation on tire selection for the upcoming
> Kermesse races in September? Is a road bike with certain tires a good
> choice, or more of a cyclocross set up?
>
> Thanks.
> -Jacob
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Tim Schauer

2008-07-02

My input is.....Road tires. Not cyclocross tires. The extended road portions of this race venue will put lower pressure ccx tires at a disadvantage. Most of the courses Jeff Mitchem ran in January were lots good pavement and not a small part on the PIR track itself. The "off road" portions were mostly old asphalt or very hard packed gravel with very very little dirt/grass sections that could get muddy enough to warrant the advantage of ccx tire traction. I ran high volume road tires. 700x25c. I especially like the specialized Roubaix series tires which have a 25c casing with a 23c tread width. I ran the Sworks open tubular version without a flat for all three weeks. I'm very close to 200 lbs and I ran them about 100-105 psi. My carbon road bike held up nicely as well. The top end gearing of a road bike will be helpful (not totally essential maybe, but helpful), over a lower geared cross bike.

Also, this is a great series. This kind of off road racing on road bikes is a blast. If you haven't tried it, Please support it by coming out to race, so we encourage more of these races in the future!

-Tim Schauer

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Jacob
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:39 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kermesse Tires

Does anyone have a recommendation on tire selection for the upcoming Kermesse races in September? Is a road bike with certain tires a good choice, or more of a cyclocross set up?

Thanks.
-Jacob
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Jacob

2008-07-02

Does anyone have a recommendation on tire selection for the upcoming Kermesse races in September? Is a road bike with certain tires a good choice, or more of a cyclocross set up?

Thanks.
-Jacob