Fischer, Jim E (Corvallis)

I converted my Rolf Vigors using the Hutch tires and Stans strips and sealant.

They ride beautifully at 90 psi...very fast rolling. The wheels gained weight over the standard setup, but they roll and grip so nice...

My two cents...

Fish

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Patrick wilder
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:21 PM
To: Doug Sears; obra@list.obra.org; Erik
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tubeless clinchers - fad or

You all realize the Hutchensen Tubless Tyres will work on just about any rim right? No need to drop 9-1400 bucks.

The tyres and rim strips and some Stans are all that is needed, although I'm running them on my Krysiums which do not need the rim strips.

Shameless plug here, but talk to the guys at Cyclepath, they've set up 25 pairs of wheels now with no catastropic reports, on all types of rims. I've personally rode them on a Set of Eastons, above mentioned Krysiums and soon to set up a pair of Mavic Open's. Can't remember the last time I got a flat.

I'll say this for sake of fairness, I have had 2 instances with severe punctures from a large nail and piece of ? which tore through the sidewall. In both of these cases, it would have damaged any tyre: tubeless, clincher or the beloved tubulars.

~Patrick
www.pwildertherapy.com

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Erik wrote:
From: Erik
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tubeless clinchers - fad or
To: "Doug Sears" , obra@list.obra.org
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 12:44 PM

Tubeless Road Tires are a new enough product that there isn't much real-world data just yet. Nothing that the marketing department hasn't tampered with, at any rate.

So all we have to go on at the present time is anecdotal reviews of people who now swear by Tubeless tires. I suppose if I dropped $900-$1400 on a new product, I'd want it to be everything I'd hoped for, too.

But on the issue of rolling resistance, the best info I've found comes from Jobst Brandt:

On Rolling Resistance -
http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/rolling-resistance.html

On Tubulars -
http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/rolling-resistance-tubular.html

> From: dsears@willamette.net
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:55:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tubeless clinchers - fad or
>
> I can't find any rolling resistance data on that page, nor any mention of
> tubeless tires.
>
> --Doug Sears
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Cipale"
> To: "Harry Phinney"
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tubeless clinchers - fad or
>
>
> Harry Phinney wrote:
>
> > Does anybody have (pointers to) rolling resistance data for the tubeless
> > vs tube question?
>
> Leave it to Sheldon Brown (RIP) to do the work for us:
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html
>
> Joe
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