Fwd: Mtn Bike Survey

Mike Ripley

2008-07-26

Hey,

Thanks for the Survey and I hope to do a follow up one with Miriam and Chris
after this one has ran its course. Overall we have had a good year, even
though a few races were down overall its been great and Kris and Short
Track---keep up the great work and maybe some of these folks will venture
out to one of our great XC races in 2009 and give a XC race a
try. Maybe more people are riding on the dirt than the road---ST, XC,Cross,
SD and DH-----maybe thats a bold statement and I am wrong? Someone will
tally that up and set the record straight.

Some things to consider.

I think the fact that 3-4 million people live in the Portland area and
getting 350 to Short Track is great, but getting 225.00 to Ashland or Bend
is awesome numbers considering the population.

We do have alot of racing in a few short months and having 2-3 at most per
month is the best situation in my opinion but if someone wants to put on a
race we do not limit this and even as we as promoters look at the schedule
for 2009 with more of a watchful eye on over doing the spring, someone could
start putting on races february through april if the venues existed to tear
up.

Back in the day---Don't get me going, but it was Mudslinger in April and
Spring Thaw in May and maybe a race on Memorial Weekend and then the bulk of
the racing started. Now I would personally love to get back to this schedule
and not overlap on Single day road races and make it better for people to
race road and mtn and get more numbers at events, but this currently is not
the case and who tells who that they should not put a race on and crowd the
schedule with muddy or wet mtb races.

Weekday racing---great at building up the local race scene---but if a xc
race were to happen on a Sunday in July, how many people from Portland would
race both the XC race and do Short Track in Portland----I would bet that 75%
of the people that live in the Portland area would just race Short
Track---and racing Short Track is a great thing, but is it then a risk to
put on a race in the summer if you may not get the support of Portland. This
would hold true for road if a friday night TT series were to take place and
a TT was scheduled on Saturday---it may not get numbers as well. I love the
participation, but it means that we may just have too much going on
personally over the weekends to race more xc races or a weekday race may be
taking the place of the traveling and expense to go to a one-day race/event.

I say to all areas of the state to look at your teams and get more people on
them, juniors, sports, cat 4/5 riders---under 30 year old riders---ect and
take a road trip once or twice a year away from your area. Build it from
within, support OBRA and have fun riding your bike. If you do not have a
mountain bike---go buy one---I hear 29ers are pretty nice and it would make
a great back up bike in the pits at cross.

Thanks

Mike Ripley
OBRA mtb rep


Randy Dreiling

2008-07-26

That is true you will find people in Bend or Ashland that race only the race in those towns. When I sold OBRA licenses at the Chainbreaker a couple years ago we sold 82 one days to people that lived in Bend.
I think it's a great survey, but my fear is we will hear only from the people that want changes (a later season,ect...) and the
the rest of the racers that are OK with things wouldn't fill it out and the results will be skewed.

Please ALL racers fill this out!

Take Care

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: Cheryl Willson
To: T. Kenji Sugahara
Cc: obra list
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:06:28 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Mtn Bike Survey

Maybe there should be an option for 0 races in 2008 and maybe some
people like to race MTB less than once per month (so maybe a less than
1 per month option?). In fact, I bet there are many many people that
only manage to do one race per season. Or some people that do one race
ever. I realize that's not who is on this list and maybe not who
promoters are interested in but the survey is already leading if those
aren't options. (It's just one thought after glancing at it. I
appreciate the Miriam did something rather than just saying someone
else should do it so kudos to Miriam regardless. This is just an
observation.)

Anyway, two cents from someone who will dust off her MTB one of these
weeks/months/years.

Cheryl

On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:55 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:

>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: "Miriam Gillow-Wiles"
>> Date: July 25, 2008 1:40:02 PM PDT
>> To: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
>> Subject: Mtn Bike Survey
>>
>> Kenji -
>>
>> Here is a survey for the mtn bikers that people were discussing on
>> the listerv. I ran it by Mike, and he likes it. I'll be more than
>> happy to share the data with everybody when its done. Take a look.
>> Can you post it on your blog too?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6e87ng
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Miriam
>>
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Cheryl Willson

2008-07-25

Maybe there should be an option for 0 races in 2008 and maybe some
people like to race MTB less than once per month (so maybe a less than
1 per month option?). In fact, I bet there are many many people that
only manage to do one race per season. Or some people that do one race
ever. I realize that's not who is on this list and maybe not who
promoters are interested in but the survey is already leading if those
aren't options. (It's just one thought after glancing at it. I
appreciate the Miriam did something rather than just saying someone
else should do it so kudos to Miriam regardless. This is just an
observation.)

Anyway, two cents from someone who will dust off her MTB one of these
weeks/months/years.

Cheryl

On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:55 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:

>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: "Miriam Gillow-Wiles"
>> Date: July 25, 2008 1:40:02 PM PDT
>> To: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
>> Subject: Mtn Bike Survey
>>
>> Kenji -
>>
>> Here is a survey for the mtn bikers that people were discussing on
>> the listerv. I ran it by Mike, and he likes it. I'll be more than
>> happy to share the data with everybody when its done. Take a look.
>> Can you post it on your blog too?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6e87ng
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Miriam
>>
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T. Kenji Sugahara

2008-07-25

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Miriam Gillow-Wiles"
> Date: July 25, 2008 1:40:02 PM PDT
> To: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> Subject: Mtn Bike Survey
>
> Kenji -
>
> Here is a survey for the mtn bikers that people were discussing on
> the listerv. I ran it by Mike, and he likes it. I'll be more than
> happy to share the data with everybody when its done. Take a look.
> Can you post it on your blog too?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6e87ng
>
> Thanks!
>
> Miriam
>