Cyclo cross pedals

Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2008-09-18

I know my wife has a pair of SPDs she loves (of course she does not use them in muddy races) but would think that Shimano would have put the R&D into their pedal division to produce a great quality product.
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From: Melissa Boyd
To: Michael Mann
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclo cross pedals

I also have been happy with SPD's on all my bikes, but have not used any other kind so can't compare fairly. One (cheapest?) model has a solid center and can jam up with mud, the others are open along the center axle and have been fine in all sorts of conditions.

My main advice is to pick one pedal type and use it on all your bikes. I've heard too many stories about people who grabbed the wrong pair of shoes for the bike they were riding that day...

Melissa


2008/9/18 Michael Mann

+1 on SPD's. I have, like, 8 pairs of different models on road, cross, and mountain bikes. I've only, truly, worn out one pair, and I have never had a mechanical caused by a Shimano pedal. And I'm cheap - I buy all mine used. Like Ron said about the Time ATACs - spray and ride. I know folks rave about their ATAC's, and if I wasn't so locked in (so to speak) to my SPD's I'd consider switching to those. But I've heard and seen enough stories about CB pedals literally falling apart or the bearings seizing and the pedal coming unscrewed mid-race, that I have no interest in them.

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Melissa Boyd

2008-09-18

I also have been happy with SPD's on all my bikes, but have not used any
other kind so can't compare fairly. One (cheapest?) model has a solid center
and can jam up with mud, the others are open along the center axle and have
been fine in all sorts of conditions.

My main advice is to pick one pedal type and use it on all your bikes. I've
heard too many stories about people who grabbed the wrong pair of shoes for
the bike they were riding that day...

Melissa

2008/9/18 Michael Mann

> +1 on SPD's. I have, like, 8 pairs of different models on road, cross, and
> mountain bikes. I've only, truly, worn out one pair, and I have never had a
> mechanical caused by a Shimano pedal. And I'm cheap - I buy all mine used.
> Like Ron said about the Time ATACs - spray and ride. I know folks rave about
> their ATAC's, and if I wasn't so locked in (so to speak) to my SPD's I'd
> consider switching to those. But I've heard and seen enough stories about CB
> pedals literally falling apart or the bearings seizing and the pedal coming
> unscrewed mid-race, that I have no interest in them.
>
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Michael Mann

2008-09-18

+1 on SPD's. I have, like, 8 pairs of different models on road, cross, and
mountain bikes. I've only, truly, worn out one pair, and I have never had a
mechanical caused by a Shimano pedal. And I'm cheap - I buy all mine used.
Like Ron said about the Time ATACs - spray and ride. I know folks rave about
their ATAC's, and if I wasn't so locked in (so to speak) to my SPD's I'd
consider switching to those. But I've heard and seen enough stories about CB
pedals literally falling apart or the bearings seizing and the pedal coming
unscrewed mid-race, that I have no interest in them.


Brian Engelen

2008-09-18

I had the original correspondence with Crank Brothers support. I wanted to
check with them to see if they were aware of the problems we were having.
The response from the support department is that the pedals need to have the
bearings replaced every 6 to 12 months.

I looked further into the bearing failures and found that the ball bearing
that they use is only rated for only 25 pounds of side force. It will
withstand more than that when new but it won't last long before it can be
pulled inside out.

I have 5 pairs of these pedals and I really like how they work. I am
watching the pedals for wear and following the rebuild recommendations.

Brian Engelen

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:48 AM
To: hrdtduck; 'craig austin'; 'Jamin AAsum'
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclo cross pedals

Time ATAC pedals I have used for over five years have required the massive
maintenance work of spraying them off after races and then riding on next
race. I see people love their CB pedals, but would like to hear about all
the failures of TIME pedals.... as in probably very few? I mean how great
is it to just put the pedals on and ride and not worry about making sure you
get them serviced. They also are a very good platform for supporting your
shoe/foot and clean out as well as CB pedals. Go figure.

ron

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From: hrdtduck

To: 'craig austin' ; 'Jamin AAsum'

Cc: obra@list.obra.org

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:42 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclo cross pedals

That's too bad and I sympathize with your injury and recovery.but that is
the complete opposite experience I have had with Crank Brothers
pedals..where I have not torn up a tendon because of other pedals, I have
sustained injury due their inadequate design and operational
characteristics.from crashes I had because I could not get out, to crashes I
had because I could not get in to the pedal. To ripped up shins from
missing engagement while trying to pedal hard during a race
environment...over all I have been riding CB pedal since they hit the market
a number of years back and honestly, I can only recommend them to
anyone..they by far outperform other brands and engagement types.and the
cost is very reasonable in comparison to other brands.

As with ANY product out there someone somewhere is going to have a problem
that they associate with the given product.

FYI I am not a Crank Brothers employee or sell them in anyway..

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of craig austin
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:30 PM
To: Jamin AAsum
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclo cross pedals

There was a recent thread on OBRA just a few weeks ago regarding this type
of failure being fairly common with these pedals. I do know I've seen quite
a few broken Crank Brothers pedals at 'cross races--purely observation on my
part, but I think they're the only type of pedal I've ever seen come apart
mid-race. I personally know half a dozen OBRA-ites who've had this happen,
at least one of whom has had it happen twice during 'cross races.

I love Time ATACs myself.

Craig

2008/9/17 Jamin AAsum

Absolutely the pedal not to touch is the Crank Brothers Egg Beater. This was
responsible for a devastating injury last year at Horning's Hideout. My foot
came out of the pedal with no warning and my knee hit the handle bar
completely rupturing my quadriceps tendon and requiring major surgery and a
year of rehab. I have discussed this with others who agree the culprit was
the Crank Brothers pedal. I cannot vouch for their other models but I would
steer far away from anything with their name on it.

Still paying the price

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Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2008-09-18

Time ATAC pedals I have used for over five years have required the massive maintenance work of spraying them off after races and then riding on next race. I see people love their CB pedals, but would like to hear about all the failures of TIME pedals.... as in probably very few? I mean how great is it to just put the pedals on and ride and not worry about making sure you get them serviced. They also are a very good platform for supporting your shoe/foot and clean out as well as CB pedals. Go figure.
ron
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From: hrdtduck
To: 'craig austin' ; 'Jamin AAsum'
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclo cross pedals

That's too bad and I sympathize with your injury and recovery.but that is the complete opposite experience I have had with Crank Brothers pedals..where I have not torn up a tendon because of other pedals, I have sustained injury due their inadequate design and operational characteristics.from crashes I had because I could not get out, to crashes I had because I could not get in to the pedal. To ripped up shins from missing engagement while trying to pedal hard during a race environment...over all I have been riding CB pedal since they hit the market a number of years back and honestly, I can only recommend them to anyone..they by far outperform other brands and engagement types.and the cost is very reasonable in comparison to other brands.

As with ANY product out there someone somewhere is going to have a problem that they associate with the given product.

FYI I am not a Crank Brothers employee or sell them in anyway..

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of craig austin
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:30 PM
To: Jamin AAsum
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclo cross pedals

There was a recent thread on OBRA just a few weeks ago regarding this type of failure being fairly common with these pedals. I do know I've seen quite a few broken Crank Brothers pedals at 'cross races--purely observation on my part, but I think they're the only type of pedal I've ever seen come apart mid-race. I personally know half a dozen OBRA-ites who've had this happen, at least one of whom has had it happen twice during 'cross races.

I love Time ATACs myself.

Craig

2008/9/17 Jamin AAsum

Absolutely the pedal not to touch is the Crank Brothers Egg Beater. This was responsible for a devastating injury last year at Horning's Hideout. My foot came out of the pedal with no warning and my knee hit the handle bar completely rupturing my quadriceps tendon and requiring major surgery and a year of rehab. I have discussed this with others who agree the culprit was the Crank Brothers pedal. I cannot vouch for their other models but I would steer far away from anything with their name on it.

Still paying the price

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hrdtduck

2008-09-17

That's too bad and I sympathize with your injury and recovery.but that is
the complete opposite experience I have had with Crank Brothers
pedals..where I have not torn up a tendon because of other pedals, I have
sustained injury due their inadequate design and operational
characteristics.from crashes I had because I could not get out, to crashes I
had because I could not get in to the pedal. To ripped up shins from
missing engagement while trying to pedal hard during a race
environment...over all I have been riding CB pedal since they hit the market
a number of years back and honestly, I can only recommend them to
anyone..they by far outperform other brands and engagement types.and the
cost is very reasonable in comparison to other brands.

As with ANY product out there someone somewhere is going to have a problem
that they associate with the given product.

FYI I am not a Crank Brothers employee or sell them in anyway..

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of craig austin
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:30 PM
To: Jamin AAsum
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclo cross pedals

There was a recent thread on OBRA just a few weeks ago regarding this type
of failure being fairly common with these pedals. I do know I've seen quite
a few broken Crank Brothers pedals at 'cross races--purely observation on my
part, but I think they're the only type of pedal I've ever seen come apart
mid-race. I personally know half a dozen OBRA-ites who've had this happen,
at least one of whom has had it happen twice during 'cross races.

I love Time ATACs myself.

Craig

2008/9/17 Jamin AAsum

Absolutely the pedal not to touch is the Crank Brothers Egg Beater. This was
responsible for a devastating injury last year at Horning's Hideout. My foot
came out of the pedal with no warning and my knee hit the handle bar
completely rupturing my quadriceps tendon and requiring major surgery and a
year of rehab. I have discussed this with others who agree the culprit was
the Crank Brothers pedal. I cannot vouch for their other models but I would
steer far away from anything with their name on it.

Still paying the price

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craig austin

2008-09-17

There was a recent thread on OBRA just a few weeks ago regarding this type
of failure being fairly common with these pedals. I do know I've seen quite
a few broken Crank Brothers pedals at 'cross races--purely observation on my
part, but I think they're the only type of pedal I've ever seen come apart
mid-race. I personally know half a dozen OBRA-ites who've had this happen,
at least one of whom has had it happen twice during 'cross races.

I love Time ATACs myself.

Craig

2008/9/17 Jamin AAsum

> Absolutely the pedal not to touch is the Crank Brothers Egg Beater. This
> was responsible for a devastating injury last year at Horning's Hideout. My
> foot came out of the pedal with no warning and my knee hit the handle bar
> completely rupturing my quadriceps tendon and requiring major surgery and a
> year of rehab. I have discussed this with others who agree the culprit was
> the Crank Brothers pedal. I cannot vouch for their other models but I would
> steer far away from anything with their name on it.
>
> Still paying the price
>
>
>
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Jamin AAsum

2008-09-17

Absolutely the pedal not to touch is the Crank Brothers Egg Beater. This was responsible for a devastating injury last year at Horning's Hideout. My foot came out of the pedal with no warning and my knee hit the handle bar completely rupturing my quadriceps tendon and requiring major surgery and a year of rehab. I have discussed this with others who agree the culprit was the Crank Brothers pedal. I cannot vouch for their other models but I would steer far away from anything with their name on it.

Still paying the price