OBRA: OBRA Chat: Lance who?

Brian Engelen

2008-09-27

Chuck Norris "in his prime" rides like Robbie McEwen.

_____

From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:08 PM
To: 'Brian Engelen'; 'Long, Steve'; 'Erik'; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

We all know that Chuck Norris would beat all three of those pansies.

And Jeanne would drop Chuck in sprint faster than you can say Round House
kick!

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Engelen
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:57 PM
To: 'Long, Steve'; 'Erik'; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

I don't know. It would be close. Now I'm fantasizing about Superhero bike
racing team built to support Lance.

_____

From: Long, Steve [mailto:Steve.Long@clark.wa.gov]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:33 PM
To: Erik; Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Lance would win right? Tell me Lance would win. He would wouldn't he?

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:24 PM
To: Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

So, then, should we change the Masters 50+ B field to "Batman Class"?

_____

From: bengelen@comcast.net
To: elongride@hotmail.com; deroya1459@aol.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:41:19 -0700

Superman disguised himself as a mere mortal. How cool is that? Plus he has
the highest morals of any super hero. That's probably why superman doesn't
race CCX. It just wouldn't be fair.

If Batman raced CCX he would have to rely on his fancy equipment and trick
gadgets.

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who
would win.

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:09 PM
To: deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

_____

To: mklahn@gmail.com; t.hoffman10@verizon.net
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400
From: deroya1459@aol.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton.

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2008-09-27

By God if the man thinks he can compete without embarrassing himself let him try!
George
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik
To: deroya1459@aol.com ; Obra
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400
From: deroya1459@aol.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton.

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Thomas Hoffman

2008-09-26

We all know that Chuck Norris would beat all three of those pansies.

And Jeanne would drop Chuck in sprint faster than you can say Round House
kick!

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Engelen
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:57 PM
To: 'Long, Steve'; 'Erik'; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

I don't know. It would be close. Now I'm fantasizing about Superhero bike
racing team built to support Lance.

_____

From: Long, Steve [mailto:Steve.Long@clark.wa.gov]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:33 PM
To: Erik; Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Lance would win right? Tell me Lance would win. He would wouldn't he?

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:24 PM
To: Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

So, then, should we change the Masters 50+ B field to "Batman Class"?

_____

From: bengelen@comcast.net
To: elongride@hotmail.com; deroya1459@aol.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:41:19 -0700

Superman disguised himself as a mere mortal. How cool is that? Plus he has
the highest morals of any super hero. That's probably why superman doesn't
race CCX. It just wouldn't be fair.

If Batman raced CCX he would have to rely on his fancy equipment and trick
gadgets.

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who
would win.

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:09 PM
To: deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

_____

To: mklahn@gmail.com; t.hoffman10@verizon.net
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400
From: deroya1459@aol.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton.

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2008-09-26

One of the TMNT?

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Engelen
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:41 PM
To: 'Erik'; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Superman disguised himself as a mere mortal. How cool is that? Plus he has
the highest morals of any super hero. That's probably why superman doesn't
race CCX. It just wouldn't be fair.

If Batman raced CCX he would have to rely on his fancy equipment and trick
gadgets.

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who
would win.

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:09 PM
To: deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

_____

To: mklahn@gmail.com; t.hoffman10@verizon.net
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400
From: deroya1459@aol.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton.

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Mt. Hood Cycling Classic

2008-09-26

Just for the record on Jeanie Longo at Hood.

She came and raced Hood because it is one of the toughest womens' races out
there and it was great prep for the Olympic games. She used Hood to spring
board to an amazing double win at this year's French National Championships
taking both the road race and TT. As far as money goes she took home $1200
in prize money and we comped her an entry and a rental car. A huge bargin
for Hood. She had heard tremendous things about the event and I spoke with
her all spring about getting her to come. It was both an honor and a
privalage to have her at the event. Even better to see her racing in the
local colors of the River City Bicycles Jersey (see this issue of VeloNews)
The results do not do justice as to how incredible she raced. Alone she
attacked the women's peleton making them work like they never have before.
She lost to the up an comer Julie Beveridge from Canada by just 11 seconds
but lost over a minute due to missed TT start on stage 3 on a questionable
bike calibration call (passed the prologue but not the TT inspection). She
beat a stellar women's field to boot.

She had a tremendous time at this year's race and in talking to her after
the event is looking forward to coming back in 2009 and racing the new
Oregon Pro Cycling Classic (fromally Hood). I hope everyone out there will
have an opportunity to come watch her race and take a moment to say hi. She
was one of the most approachable and sincere riders we have had the
privelage to host. I will never forget the experience to be in the presence
of such a legend (or see her race Tabor!)

Chad

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Hoffman"
To: ;
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

>I think you missed his point. Hi scomments were about the logetivity of
> Jeanne Longo racing Career. Shes been at it since Lance was sucking down
> Fudgecicles and watching the Smurfs on Saturday Morning.
>
> Both racers are pretty amazing for what they have achived, I too was
> amazed
> to see Jeanne racing at Mt Hood. At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother
> of
> the entire pro peloton. She was not sitting in and lord knows she was not
> collecting much of a paycheck.
>
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>
> Jeannie Longo (born October 31, 1958) is a female French racing cyclist,
> multiple (55 times) French and world champion. Longo is still active in
> cycling as of 2008 and is widely considered one of the greatest female
> cyclists of all time. She is famous for her competitive nature and her
> longevity in a sport where some of her competitors were not yet born
> during
> her first Olympic competition in 1984. She was selected to compete for
> France in the 2008 Olympics, her seventh Olympic Games.[1] She has stated
> that this will be her final participation in the Olympics.[2] In the
> Women's
> road race, she finished 24th, 33 seconds behind winner Nicole Cooke, who
> was
> one year old when Longo first rode in the Olympics. [3] At the same
> Olympics, she finished 4th in the road time trial, just two seconds shy of
> securing bronze medal.[4]
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Lisa
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:32 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org; Brian Johnson
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
>
> I would hardly say that Lance has been sitting on his ass in front of a
> TV,
> gnawing on a
> fudgesicle and watching Saturday morning cartoons these past years! Can
> you
> say CANCER??
>
> Granted he's been in some high profile romances, but if it were low key
> the
> press would still make a big deal about it...I agree that some people have
> too much time on their hands if they feel the need to badmouth others,
> regardless of whether or not they're famous!
>
> Maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't...but in the long run, getting off YOUR
> ass
> and helping society is more important!!
>
> Lisa
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Brian Johnson wrote:
>
>
> From: Brian Johnson
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 12:45 PM
>
>
> Who's this Lance person that seems to be attracting so much
> attention?
>
> Back in May I noticed a distinct lack of buzz on the OBRA list when
>
> Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli showed up for the Mt. Hood Cycling Classic.
> This was like Madonna dropping in on a PDX music festival. Jeannie
> was kicking ass when Lance was on his in front of a TV, gnawing on a
>
> fudgesicle and watching saturday morning cartoons. Lance "retired"
> and is now deciding to come back. Jeannie never left and never
> stopped kicking ass. There are other pro cyclists that have actively
>
> done more for the sport of cycling, for cycling as transportation,
> and for society in general, than Lance Armstrong has. His major
> contribution seems to be star-dom and the concomitant "reality
> distortion field".
>
> Sure, I suppose that it's good that Lance's presence may equal good
>
> things for the bicycle business, but...
>
>
> I'm in Jeannie's posse.
>
>
>
> * * *
>
> My father asks "Do you live here or ride a bike?"
>
> liveorridebikes.blogspot.com
>
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Daniel Watson

2008-09-26

its called "Astana"...

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Brian Engelen wrote:

> From: Brian Engelen
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
> To: "'Long, Steve'" , "'Erik'" , deroya1459@aol.com, "'Obra'"
> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 4:57 PM
> I don't know. It would be close. Now I'm
> fantasizing about Superhero bike
> racing team built to support Lance.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Long, Steve [mailto:Steve.Long@clark.wa.gov]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:33 PM
> To: Erik; Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
>
>
>
> Lance would win right? Tell me Lance would win. He would
> wouldn't he?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Erik
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:24 PM
> To: Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
>
> So, then, should we change the Masters 50+ B field to
> "Batman Class"?
>
> _____
>
> From: bengelen@comcast.net
> To: elongride@hotmail.com; deroya1459@aol.com;
> obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:41:19 -0700
>
> Superman disguised himself as a mere mortal. How cool is
> that? Plus he has
> the highest morals of any super hero. That's probably
> why superman doesn't
> race CCX. It just wouldn't be fair.
>
>
>
> If Batman raced CCX he would have to rely on his fancy
> equipment and trick
> gadgets.
>
>
>
> If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we
> all know who
> would win.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Erik
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:09 PM
> To: deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
>
>
>
> Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!
>
> _____
>
> To: mklahn@gmail.com; t.hoffman10@verizon.net
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400
> From: deroya1459@aol.com
> CC: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
>
> Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Klahn
> To: Thomas Hoffman
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
>
> She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.
>
>
>
> Matthew Klahn
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:
>
>
>
> At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
> the entire pro peloton.
>
>
>
> =
>
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Brian Engelen

2008-09-26

I don't know. It would be close. Now I'm fantasizing about Superhero bike
racing team built to support Lance.

_____

From: Long, Steve [mailto:Steve.Long@clark.wa.gov]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:33 PM
To: Erik; Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Lance would win right? Tell me Lance would win. He would wouldn't he?

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:24 PM
To: Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

So, then, should we change the Masters 50+ B field to "Batman Class"?

_____

From: bengelen@comcast.net
To: elongride@hotmail.com; deroya1459@aol.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:41:19 -0700

Superman disguised himself as a mere mortal. How cool is that? Plus he has
the highest morals of any super hero. That's probably why superman doesn't
race CCX. It just wouldn't be fair.

If Batman raced CCX he would have to rely on his fancy equipment and trick
gadgets.

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who
would win.

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:09 PM
To: deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

_____

To: mklahn@gmail.com; t.hoffman10@verizon.net
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400
From: deroya1459@aol.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton.

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2008-09-26

Lance would win right? Tell me Lance would win. He would wouldn't he?

________________________________

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:24 PM
To: Brian Engelen; deroya1459@aol.com; 'Obra'
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

So, then, should we change the Masters 50+ B field to "Batman Class"?

________________________________

From: bengelen@comcast.net
To: elongride@hotmail.com; deroya1459@aol.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:41:19 -0700

Superman disguised himself as a mere mortal. How cool is that? Plus he
has the highest morals of any super hero. That's probably why superman
doesn't race CCX. It just wouldn't be fair.

If Batman raced CCX he would have to rely on his fancy equipment and
trick gadgets.

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who
would win.

________________________________

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:09 PM
To: deroya1459@aol.com; Obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

________________________________

To: mklahn@gmail.com; t.hoffman10@verizon.net
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400
From: deroya1459@aol.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton.

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2008-09-26

So, then, should we change the Masters 50+ B field to "Batman Class"?

From: bengelen@comcast.netTo: elongride@hotmail.com; deroya1459@aol.com; obra@list.obra.orgSubject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:41:19 -0700

Superman disguised himself as a mere mortal. How cool is that? Plus he has the highest morals of any super hero. Thats probably why superman doesnt race CCX. It just wouldnt be fair.

If Batman raced CCX he would have to rely on his fancy equipment and trick gadgets.

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who would win.

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of ErikSent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:09 PMTo: deroya1459@aol.com; ObraSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

To: mklahn@gmail.com; t.hoffman10@verizon.netDate: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400From: deroya1459@aol.comCC: obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman-----Original Message-----From: Matthew Klahn To: Thomas Hoffman Cc: obra@list.obra.orgSent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pmSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother ofthe entire pro peloton.

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Roger Joys

2008-09-26

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who
would win.
David Auker of course.. on a Kryptonite Fixed Gear.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, wrote:

> If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who
> would win.
>
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2008-09-26

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who would win.

Yea, Ditka!

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Rick Johnson

2008-09-26

"...we all
know who would win."

The people with the movie rights?

Brian Engelen wrote:

Superman
disguised himself as a mere
mortal. How cool is that? Plus he has the highest morals of any
super hero. That’s probably why superman doesn’t race
CCX. It just wouldn’t be fair.

If Batman
raced CCX he would have to rely
on his fancy equipment and trick gadgets.

If there
was a race between Lance,
Batman, and Superman we all know who would win.

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September 26, 2008
3:09 PM

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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Oh
Yeah?! Well, Batman's
smarter!!

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t.hoffman10@verizon.net

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400

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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat]
Lance who?

Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman

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To: Thomas Hoffman
<t.hoffman10@verizon.net>

Cc: obra@list.obra.org

Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat]
Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik
Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

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PM, Thomas
Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the
Mother of

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2008-09-26

Superman disguised himself as a mere mortal. How cool is that? Plus he has
the highest morals of any super hero. That's probably why superman doesn't
race CCX. It just wouldn't be fair.

If Batman raced CCX he would have to rely on his fancy equipment and trick
gadgets.

If there was a race between Lance, Batman, and Superman we all know who
would win.

_____

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Behalf Of Erik
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Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

_____

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400
From: deroya1459@aol.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

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At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
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2008-09-26

Speaking in biological terms, that is old enough. :-)

Thomas Hoffman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn [mailto:mklahn@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:24 PM
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: karmarenoir@yahoo.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton.

Erik

2008-09-26

Oh Yeah?! Well, Batman's smarter!!

To: mklahn@gmail.com; t.hoffman10@verizon.netDate: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:53:55 -0400From: deroya1459@aol.comCC: obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?Who cares. I think Superman is better than Batman-----Original Message-----From: Matthew Klahn To: Thomas Hoffman Cc: obra@list.obra.orgSent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pmSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

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2008-09-26

Who cares.? I think Superman is better than Batman

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Klahn
To: Thomas Hoffman
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton.

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2008-09-26

She was 12 when Erik Zabel was born. Avoid hyperbole.

Matthew Klahn

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Hoffman wrote:

> At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
> the entire pro peloton.

Thomas Hoffman

2008-09-26

I think you missed his point. Hi scomments were about the logetivity of
Jeanne Longo racing Career. Shes been at it since Lance was sucking down
Fudgecicles and watching the Smurfs on Saturday Morning.

Both racers are pretty amazing for what they have achived, I too was amazed
to see Jeanne racing at Mt Hood. At 50 She is old enough to be the Mother of
the entire pro peloton. She was not sitting in and lord knows she was not
collecting much of a paycheck.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jeannie Longo (born October 31, 1958) is a female French racing cyclist,
multiple (55 times) French and world champion. Longo is still active in
cycling as of 2008 and is widely considered one of the greatest female
cyclists of all time. She is famous for her competitive nature and her
longevity in a sport where some of her competitors were not yet born during
her first Olympic competition in 1984. She was selected to compete for
France in the 2008 Olympics, her seventh Olympic Games.[1] She has stated
that this will be her final participation in the Olympics.[2] In the Women's
road race, she finished 24th, 33 seconds behind winner Nicole Cooke, who was
one year old when Longo first rode in the Olympics. [3] At the same
Olympics, she finished 4th in the road time trial, just two seconds shy of
securing bronze medal.[4]

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Lisa
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:32 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org; Brian Johnson
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?

I would hardly say that Lance has been sitting on his ass in front of a TV,
gnawing on a
fudgesicle and watching Saturday morning cartoons these past years! Can you
say CANCER??

Granted he's been in some high profile romances, but if it were low key the
press would still make a big deal about it...I agree that some people have
too much time on their hands if they feel the need to badmouth others,
regardless of whether or not they're famous!

Maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't...but in the long run, getting off YOUR ass
and helping society is more important!!

Lisa

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Brian Johnson wrote:

From: Brian Johnson
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 12:45 PM

Who's this Lance person that seems to be attracting so much
attention?

Back in May I noticed a distinct lack of buzz on the OBRA list when

Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli showed up for the Mt. Hood Cycling Classic.
This was like Madonna dropping in on a PDX music festival. Jeannie
was kicking ass when Lance was on his in front of a TV, gnawing on a

fudgesicle and watching saturday morning cartoons. Lance "retired"
and is now deciding to come back. Jeannie never left and never
stopped kicking ass. There are other pro cyclists that have actively

done more for the sport of cycling, for cycling as transportation,
and for society in general, than Lance Armstrong has. His major
contribution seems to be star-dom and the concomitant "reality
distortion field".

Sure, I suppose that it's good that Lance's presence may equal good

things for the bicycle business, but...

I'm in Jeannie's posse.

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2008-09-25

I would hardly say that Lance has been sitting on his ass in front of a TV, gnawing on a
fudgesicle and watching Saturday morning cartoons these past years! Can you say CANCER??

Granted he's been in some high profile romances, but if it were low key the press would still make a big deal about it...I agree that some people have too much time on their hands if they feel the need to badmouth others, regardless of whether or not they're famous!

Maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't...but in the long run, getting off YOUR ass and helping society is more important!!

Lisa

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Brian Johnson wrote:

From: Brian Johnson
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Lance who?
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 12:45 PM

Who's this Lance person that seems to be attracting so much attention?

Back in May I noticed a distinct lack of buzz on the OBRA list when
Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli showed up for the Mt. Hood Cycling Classic.
This was like Madonna dropping in on a PDX music festival. Jeannie
was kicking ass when Lance was on his in front of a TV, gnawing on a
fudgesicle and watching saturday morning cartoons. Lance "retired"
and is now deciding to come back. Jeannie never left and never
stopped kicking ass. There are other pro cyclists that have actively
done more for the sport of cycling, for cycling as transportation,
and for society in general, than Lance Armstrong has. His major
contribution seems to be star-dom and the concomitant "reality
distortion field".

Sure, I suppose that it's good that Lance's presence may equal good
things for the bicycle business, but...

I'm in Jeannie's posse.

* * *

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Matt Plummer

2008-09-25

How about instead of knocking Lance, you focus your efforts on
praising the other riders. There is no argument for why he shouldn't
be getting all this attention, the argument is why haven't others. So
take it easy on the guy.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Brian Johnson
wrote:
> Who's this Lance person that seems to be attracting so much attention?
>
> Back in May I noticed a distinct lack of buzz on the OBRA list when
> Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli showed up for the Mt. Hood Cycling Classic.
> This was like Madonna dropping in on a PDX music festival. Jeannie
> was kicking ass when Lance was on his in front of a TV, gnawing on a
> fudgesicle and watching saturday morning cartoons. Lance "retired"
> and is now deciding to come back. Jeannie never left and never
> stopped kicking ass. There are other pro cyclists that have actively
> done more for the sport of cycling, for cycling as transportation,
> and for society in general, than Lance Armstrong has. His major
> contribution seems to be star-dom and the concomitant "reality
> distortion field".
>
> Sure, I suppose that it's good that Lance's presence may equal good
> things for the bicycle business, but...
>
>
> I'm in Jeannie's posse.
>
>
>
> * * *
>
> My father asks "Do you live here or ride a bike?"
>
> liveorridebikes.blogspot.com
>
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Brian Johnson

2008-09-25

Who's this Lance person that seems to be attracting so much attention?

Back in May I noticed a distinct lack of buzz on the OBRA list when
Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli showed up for the Mt. Hood Cycling Classic.
This was like Madonna dropping in on a PDX music festival. Jeannie
was kicking ass when Lance was on his in front of a TV, gnawing on a
fudgesicle and watching saturday morning cartoons. Lance "retired"
and is now deciding to come back. Jeannie never left and never
stopped kicking ass. There are other pro cyclists that have actively
done more for the sport of cycling, for cycling as transportation,
and for society in general, than Lance Armstrong has. His major
contribution seems to be star-dom and the concomitant "reality
distortion field".

Sure, I suppose that it's good that Lance's presence may equal good
things for the bicycle business, but...

I'm in Jeannie's posse.

* * *

My father asks "Do you live here or ride a bike?"

liveorridebikes.blogspot.com