OBRA: OBRA Chat: Eureka! Tubular Glue Removal

c.rycewicz@comcast.net

2008-09-29

Goof off works. Its a brew of TCE, MEK and other hydrocarbons. Its very hazardous and not good to breathe or get on your skin. Removing tubular glue from a rim is one of the nastiest jobs in cycling.

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Christopher A. Rycewicz
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From: Michael Benno

Brush Cleaner seems to work really well. Better than acetone.

I am probably still a little high from working with toxic chemicals this morning, but I was really impressed at how well Brush Cleaner worked at removing nasty old glue from my tubular cross tires.

After last year, I pulled off my tubular cross tires to sell the wheels. I didn?t want to remount the tires because the glue was really nasty. Three layers, lots of places were dirt and water had gotten in there and the glue was all flakey and fully of air bubbles. In looking at it I didn?t think I would be able to reuse them unless I used a quart of new glue. I tried pulling the loose stuff off with my fingers, a wire brush and even stand paper to little effect. How tedious!

This morning, yes before work, I tried a little experiment with brush cleaner and found it extremely effective in removing all the glue of the cloth tape. Now, my tires look essentially unglued. I uesed Brush cleaner which is mostly acetone but has some other stuff in it that must have some oils in it to help recondition the brushes. This seems to slow the evaporation process and makes the glue more gooey and easy to roll off with a rag, and as the brush cleaner evaporates, the glue sticks to itself rather than the cloth tape.

Here was my technique. Take and small crappy paint brush and apply the solvent to all the glue. Work it in a little and do the whole tire before working the glue off. Let the solvent soak in and soften the glue. Then take a lint free rag, like a piece of denim, and start rubbing. The glue will ball up, I used a technique of pushing the glue off to the sidewalls from the center of the cloth tape, as well as rubbing back and forth. When the glue is wet with solvent, it is easy to slide around and lift off the cloth, but it's sticky, ad it dries and becomes more tacky it is easer to push to the sidewall. One coat of brush cleaner was good to remove most of the glue on both tires, however, I did need to do some touch up on one of the tires. I think I spent about 15-min per tire.

Enjoy and have fun.

Michael O'Hair

2008-09-29

DON'T EVER DO THIS WITHOUT PLENTY OF VENTILATION!!

Even if you do this outside, have a strong fan going close by. Two are better, one to blow fresh air toward you, the other to blow the aromatic hydrocarbons away.

Most "brush cleaner" is basically paint thinner. Lacquer thinner is much more effective on contact cement (Fast Tack), but much more dangerous.

----- Original Message -----
From: scott hill
To: Matthew Klahn ; craig austin
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eureka! Tubular Glue Removal

Was the brush cleaner mineral spirits or did it say "brush cleaner" on the can. I would also be interested to know if it effected the base tape in any way. Also do you think it would work well on rims??

scott

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, craig austin wrote:

From: craig austin
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eureka! Tubular Glue Removal
To: "Matthew Klahn"
Cc: "obra@list.obra.org"
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 11:56 AM

I'm also interested as to whether the base tape is still stuck to the tire like it was before. Keep us posted, it's good info.

Craig

2008/9/29 Matthew Klahn

Please report back on how well the glue sticks to the rim & base tape after you've cleaned them and reglue the tire to the rim. Hopefully you will get good adherance and everything is peachy, but I would be careful to test the new glue job pretty strenuously before you ride on them... Hopefully no residue was left in the basetape that would interefere with the glue on the tire...

--
Matthew Klahn

On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Michael Benno wrote:

Brush Cleaner seems to work really well. Better than acetone.

I am probably still a little high from working with toxic chemicals this morning, but I was really impressed at how well Brush Cleaner worked at removing nasty old glue from my tubular cross tires.

After last year, I pulled off my tubular cross tires to sell the wheels. I didn't want to remount the tires because the glue was really nasty. Three layers, lots of places were dirt and water had gotten in there and the glue was all flakey and fully of air bubbles. In looking at it I didn't think I would be able to reuse them unless I used a quart of new glue. I tried pulling the loose stuff off with my fingers, a wire brush and even stand paper to little effect. How tedious!

This morning, yes before work, I tried a little experiment with brush cleaner and found it extremely effective in removing all the glue of the cloth tape. Now, my tires look essentially unglued. I uesed Brush cleaner which is mostly acetone but has some other stuff in it that must have some oils in it to help recondition the brushes. This seems to slow the evaporation process and makes the glue more gooey and easy to roll off with a rag, and as the brush cleaner evaporates, the glue sticks to itself rather than the cloth tape.

Here was my technique. Take and small crappy paint brush and apply the solvent to all the glue. Work it in a little and do the whole tire before working the glue off. Let the solvent soak in and soften the glue. Then take a lint free rag, like a piece of denim, and start rubbing. The glue will ball up, I used a technique of pushing the glue off to the sidewalls from the center of the cloth tape, as well as rubbing back and forth. When the glue is wet with solvent, it is easy to slide around and lift off the cloth, but it's sticky, ad it dries and becomes more tacky it is easer to push to the sidewall. One coat of brush cleaner was good to remove most of the glue on both tires, however, I did need to do some touch up on one of the tires. I think I spent about 15-min per tire.

Enjoy and have fun.

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scott hill

2008-09-29

Was the brush cleaner mineral spirits or did it say "brush cleaner" on the can. I would also be interested to know if it effected the base tape in any way. Also do you think it would work well on rims??

scott

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, craig austin wrote:

From: craig austin
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eureka! Tubular Glue Removal
To: "Matthew Klahn"
Cc: "obra@list.obra.org"
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 11:56 AM

I'm also interested as to whether the base tape is still stuck to the tire like it was before. Keep us posted, it's good info.

Craig

2008/9/29 Matthew Klahn

Please report back on how well the glue sticks to the rim & base tape after you've cleaned them and reglue the tire to the rim. Hopefully you will get good adherance and everything is peachy, but I would be careful to test the new glue job pretty strenuously before you ride on them... Hopefully no residue was left in the basetape that would interefere with the glue on the tire...

--
Matthew Klahn

On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Michael Benno wrote:

Brush Cleaner seems to work really well. Better than acetone.

I am probably still a little high from working with toxic chemicals this morning, but I was really impressed at how well Brush Cleaner worked at removing nasty old glue from my tubular cross tires.

After last year, I pulled off my tubular cross tires to sell the wheels. I didn't want to remount the tires because the glue was really nasty. Three layers, lots of places were dirt and water had gotten in there and the glue was all flakey and fully of air bubbles. In looking at it I didn't think I would be able to reuse them unless I used a quart of new glue. I tried pulling the loose stuff off with my fingers, a wire brush and even stand paper to little effect. How tedious!

This morning, yes before work, I tried a little experiment with brush cleaner and found it extremely effective in removing all the glue of the cloth tape. Now, my tires look essentially unglued. I uesed Brush cleaner which is mostly acetone but has some other stuff in it that must have some oils in it to help recondition the brushes. This seems to slow the evaporation process and makes the glue more gooey and easy to roll off with a rag, and as the brush cleaner evaporates, the glue sticks to itself rather than the cloth tape.

Here was my technique. Take and small crappy paint brush and apply the solvent to all the glue. Work it in a little and do the whole tire before working the glue off. Let the solvent soak in and soften the glue. Then take a lint free rag, like a piece of denim, and start rubbing. The glue will ball up, I used a technique of pushing the glue off to the sidewalls from the center of the cloth tape, as well as rubbing back and forth. When the glue is wet with solvent, it is easy to slide around and lift off the cloth, but it's sticky, ad it dries and becomes more tacky it is easer to push to the sidewall. One coat of brush cleaner was good to remove most of the glue on both tires, however, I did need to do some touch up on one of the tires. I think I spent about 15-min per tire.

Enjoy and have fun.

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craig austin

2008-09-29

I'm also interested as to whether the base tape is still stuck to the tire
like it was before. Keep us posted, it's good info.

Craig

2008/9/29 Matthew Klahn

> Please report back on how well the glue sticks to the rim & base tape
> after you've cleaned them and reglue the tire to the rim. Hopefully you will
> get good adherance and everything is peachy, but I would be careful to test
> the new glue job pretty strenuously before you ride on them... Hopefully no
> residue was left in the basetape that would interefere with the glue on the
> tire...
>
>
> -- Matthew Klahn
>
> On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Michael Benno wrote:
>
> Brush Cleaner seems to work really well. Better than acetone.
>
>
>
> I am probably still a little high from working with toxic chemicals this
> morning, but I was really impressed at how well Brush Cleaner worked at
> removing nasty old glue from my tubular cross tires.
>
>
>
> After last year, I pulled off my tubular cross tires to sell the wheels. I
> didn't want to remount the tires because the glue was really nasty. Three
> layers, lots of places were dirt and water had gotten in there and the glue
> was all flakey and fully of air bubbles. In looking at it I didn't think I
> would be able to reuse them unless I used a quart of new glue. I tried
> pulling the loose stuff off with my fingers, a wire brush and even stand
> paper to little effect. How tedious!
>
>
>
> This morning, yes before work, I tried a little experiment with brush
> cleaner and found it extremely effective in removing all the glue of the
> cloth tape. Now, my tires look essentially unglued. I uesed Brush cleaner
> which is mostly acetone but has some other stuff in it that must have some
> oils in it to help recondition the brushes. This seems to slow the
> evaporation process and makes the glue more gooey and easy to roll off with
> a rag, and as the brush cleaner evaporates, the glue sticks to itself rather
> than the cloth tape.
>
>
>
> Here was my technique. Take and small crappy paint brush and apply the
> solvent to all the glue. Work it in a little and do the whole tire before
> working the glue off. Let the solvent soak in and soften the glue. Then take
> a lint free rag, like a piece of denim, and start rubbing. The glue will
> ball up, I used a technique of pushing the glue off to the sidewalls from
> the center of the cloth tape, as well as rubbing back and forth. When the
> glue is wet with solvent, it is easy to slide around and lift off the cloth,
> but it's sticky, ad it dries and becomes more tacky it is easer to push to
> the sidewall. One coat of brush cleaner was good to remove most of the glue
> on both tires, however, I did need to do some touch up on one of the tires.
> I think I spent about 15-min per tire.
>
>
>
> Enjoy and have fun.
>
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Matthew Klahn

2008-09-29

Please report back on how well the glue sticks to the rim & base tape
after you've cleaned them and reglue the tire to the rim. Hopefully
you will get good adherance and everything is peachy, but I would be
careful to test the new glue job pretty strenuously before you ride on
them... Hopefully no residue was left in the basetape that would
interefere with the glue on the tire...

--
Matthew Klahn

On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Michael Benno wrote:

> Brush Cleaner seems to work really well. Better than acetone.
>
> I am probably still a little high from working with toxic chemicals
> this morning, but I was really impressed at how well Brush Cleaner
> worked at removing nasty old glue from my tubular cross tires.
>
> After last year, I pulled off my tubular cross tires to sell the
> wheels. I didnt want to remount the tires because the glue was real
> ly nasty. Three layers, lots of places were dirt and water had gotte
> n in there and the glue was all flakey and fully of air bubbles. In
> looking at it I didnt think I would be able to reuse them unless I
> used a quart of new glue. I tried pulling the loose stuff off with m
> y fingers, a wire brush and even stand paper to little effect. How t
> edious!
>
> This morning, yes before work, I tried a little experiment with
> brush cleaner and found it extremely effective in removing all the
> glue of the cloth tape. Now, my tires look essentially unglued. I
> uesed Brush cleaner which is mostly acetone but has some other stuff
> in it that must have some oils in it to help recondition the
> brushes. This seems to slow the evaporation process and makes the
> glue more gooey and easy to roll off with a rag, and as the brush
> cleaner evaporates, the glue sticks to itself rather than the cloth
> tape.
>
> Here was my technique. Take and small crappy paint brush and apply
> the solvent to all the glue. Work it in a little and do the whole
> tire before working the glue off. Let the solvent soak in and soften
> the glue. Then take a lint free rag, like a piece of denim, and
> start rubbing. The glue will ball up, I used a technique of pushing
> the glue off to the sidewalls from the center of the cloth tape, as
> well as rubbing back and forth. When the glue is wet with solvent,
> it is easy to slide around and lift off the cloth, but it's sticky,
> ad it dries and becomes more tacky it is easer to push to the
> sidewall. One coat of brush cleaner was good to remove most of the
> glue on both tires, however, I did need to do some touch up on one
> of the tires. I think I spent about 15-min per tire.
>
> Enjoy and have fun.
>
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Michael Benno

2008-09-29

Brush Cleaner seems to work really well. Better than acetone.

I am probably still a little high from working with toxic chemicals this morning, but I was really impressed at how well Brush Cleaner worked at removing nasty old glue from my tubular cross tires.

After last year, I pulled off my tubular cross tires to sell the wheels. I didnt want to remount the tires because the glue was really nasty. Three layers, lots of places were dirt and water had gotten in there and the glue was all flakey and fully of air bubbles. In looking at it I didnt think I would be able to reuse them unless I used a quart of new glue. I tried pulling the loose stuff off with my fingers, a wire brush and even stand paper to little effect. How tedious!

This morning, yes before work, I tried a little experiment with brush cleaner and found it extremely effective in removing all the glue of the cloth tape. Now, my tires look essentially unglued. I uesed Brush cleaner which is mostly acetone but has some other stuff in it that must have some oils in it to help recondition the brushes. This seems to slow the evaporation process and makes the glue more gooey and easy to roll off with a rag, and as the brush cleaner evaporates, the glue sticks to itself rather than the cloth tape.

Here was my technique. Take and small crappy paint brush and apply the solvent to all the glue. Work it in a little and do the whole tire before working the glue off. Let the solvent soak in and soften the glue. Then take a lint free rag, like a piece of denim, and start rubbing. The glue will ball up, I used a technique of pushing the glue off to the sidewalls from the center of the cloth tape, as well as rubbing back and forth. When the glue is wet with solvent, it is easy to slide around and lift off the cloth, but it's sticky, ad it dries and becomes more tacky it is easer to push to the sidewall. One coat of brush cleaner was good to remove most of the glue on both tires, however, I did need to do some touch up on one of the tires. I think I spent about 15-min per tire.

Enjoy and have fun.