OBRA: OBRA Chat: 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2008-12-10

That is perfect Rick.
ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick C Johnson
To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

I also want to note to anyone reading this far that I fully do not understand all there is to know about BAR points...

I speculate that the BAR ranking may be related to the way BCS standings are calculated ("Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!").
It is also possible that some people believe that OBRA chat postings count towards BAR points.
:-)

Rick

Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote:
What Craig describes is a Barpet Bagger! OBRA members always have different opinions about things. I personally see BAR points as not very important at all. Making fun of them (or almost anything as long as it is not hurtful) is fine from my point of view. I have stated before that bar points do not reflect anything about the racer. I am a perfect example of that. I won the 07 cyclocross master bar. Come on! I am not the fastest or most consistent rider in the master field. If I can win a cyclocross bar then the bar can be a focus of fun as far as I am concerned (or broken down further by age maybe). OBRA is a family friendly organization, but it does not have to be ultra right wing. People. Your children know that some of you drink beer. Have any of you ever cursed? I do not have a problem with Pigs. They have a certain image that we humans can have fun with while doing those well proportioned critters no harm. Whores are another issue. They are people that need some help getting into a more safe occupation. I do not make fun of them. I could easily make fun of BAR points however because they are pretty darn funny as they are presently calculated. I also want to note to anyone reading this far that I fully do not understand all there is to know about BAR points... but for the one fact that I should not be winning a BAR competition unless I was the consistent best rider. People who love to and can ride many races should not be penalized, but just because I go to Eugene and win a cross race with 3-10 riders and finish 4-15th in a Portland race says it all to me.
ron

----- Original Message -----
From: craig austin
To: Leibowitz, Flo
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

While PC in more ways than one, Points Champ is not something that requires a vote. It's black and white -- most points=points champ.

What Kenji's talking about is the person or team who chooses when, where, and what category to race depending on which one will give them the Biggest Boost in the BAR. These people are not only generally sandbaggers, but they're willing and able to travel to every race in the state in order to win the Over-30, Under-200-lb, fixed gear Super D endurance category. In fact, they'll pass up the more popular races in order to attend the obscure ones so that even a DFL will give them BAR points. These are the folks you see at registration asking how many are signed up before they decide on the Cat 3 or Masters race. They're the 6'4" beanpoles who race the Clydesdale category because they're 198 and carry a water bottle.

To avoid offending anyone, let's call them something totally benign and innocent, like, I don't know, "tea bags."

Craig

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Leibowitz, Flo wrote:

That's the spirit. Thank you, Randy !

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Points Champ = PC

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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Rick C Johnson

2008-12-10

> I also want to note to anyone reading this far that I fully do not
> understand all there is to know about BAR points...

I speculate that the BAR ranking may be related to the way BCS standings
are calculated ("Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!").
It is also possible that some people believe that OBRA chat postings
count towards BAR points.
:-)

Rick

Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote:

> What Craig describes is a Barpet Bagger! OBRA members always have
> different opinions about things. I personally see BAR points as not
> very important at all. Making fun of them (or almost anything as long
> as it is not hurtful) is fine from my point of view. I have stated
> before that bar points do not reflect anything about the racer. I am
> a perfect example of that. I won the 07 cyclocross master bar. Come
> on! I am not the fastest or most consistent rider in the master
> field. If I can win a cyclocross bar then the bar can be a focus of
> fun as far as I am concerned (or broken down further by age maybe).
> OBRA is a family friendly organization, but it does not have to be
> ultra right wing. People. Your children know that some of you drink
> beer. Have any of you ever cursed? I do not have a problem with
> Pigs. They have a certain image that we humans can have fun with while
> doing those well proportioned critters no harm. Whores are another
> issue. They are people that need some help getting into a more safe
> occupation. I do not make fun of them. I could easily make fun of
> BAR points however because they are pretty darn funny as they
> are presently calculated. I also want to note to anyone reading this
> far that I fully do not understand all there is to know about BAR
> points... but for the one fact that I should not be winning a BAR
> competition unless I was the consistent best rider. People who love
> to and can ride many races should not be penalized, but just because I
> go to Eugene and win a cross race with 3-10 riders and finish 4-15th
> in a Portland race says it all to me.
> ron
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* craig austin
> *To:* Leibowitz, Flo
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:08 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> While PC in more ways than one, Points Champ is not something that
> requires a vote. It's black and white -- most points=points champ.
>
> What Kenji's talking about is the person or team who chooses when,
> where, and what category to race depending on which one will give
> them the Biggest Boost in the BAR. These people are not only
> generally sandbaggers, but they're willing and able to travel to
> every race in the state in order to win the Over-30, Under-200-lb,
> fixed gear Super D endurance category. In fact, they'll pass
> up the more popular races in order to attend the obscure ones so
> that even a DFL will give them BAR points. These are the folks you
> see at registration asking how many are signed up before they
> decide on the Cat 3 or Masters race. They're the 6'4" beanpoles
> who race the Clydesdale category because they're 198 and carry a
> water bottle.
>
> To avoid offending anyone, let's call them something totally
> benign and innocent, like, I don't know, "tea bags."
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Leibowitz, Flo
> >
> wrote:
>
> That's the spirit. Thank you, Randy !
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ] On
> Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> Points Champ = PC
>
> Randy Dreiling
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Leibowitz, Flo" >
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> Hi Kenji --
> I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore"
> name seems
> vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
> jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't
> sound
> funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe
> someone can do
> better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is
> a more
> good-natured title that it could be called.
>
> Bet ya get more nominations that way.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ] On
> Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
> To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.
>
> 1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
> 2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
> 3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
> 4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
> 5. Sandbagger award
> 6. Best racing story award
> 7. Official most likely to DQ you award
> 8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
> 9. Best photo of the year award.
> 10. Worst number placement award.
> 11. Biggest fan award.
>
> If you would like to make a nomination-
>
> Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it.
> It is
> always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum
> enjoyment/
> good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17
> so we
> can choose the finalists!
>
> We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items
> for these
> awards.
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
>
>
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Randy Dreiling

2008-12-09

I like that one

Randy Dreiling

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From: Rick Johnson
To: craig austin
Cc: "Leibowitz, Flo" ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 4:28:36 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

How about "BAR baggers"?

Rick

craig austin wrote:
While PC in more ways than one, Points Champ is not something
that requires a vote. It's black and white -- most points=points champ.

What Kenji's talking about is the person or team who chooses
when, where, and what category to race depending on which one will give
them the Biggest Boost in the BAR. These people are not only generally
sandbaggers, but they're willing and able to travel to every race in
the state in order to win the Over-30, Under-200-lb, fixed gear Super D
endurance category. In fact, they'll pass up the more popular races in
order to attend the obscure ones so that even a DFL will give them BAR
points. These are the folks you see at registration asking how many are
signed up before they decide on the Cat 3 or Masters race. They're the
6'4" beanpoles who race the Clydesdale category because they're 198 and
carry a water bottle.

To avoid offending anyone, let's call them something totally
benign and innocent, like, I don't know, "tea bags."

Craig

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Leibowitz,
Flo wrote:

That's
the spirit. Thank you, Randy !

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
On
Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Points Champ = PC

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2008-12-09

What Craig describes is a Barpet Bagger! OBRA members always have different opinions about things. I personally see BAR points as not very important at all. Making fun of them (or almost anything as long as it is not hurtful) is fine from my point of view. I have stated before that bar points do not reflect anything about the racer. I am a perfect example of that. I won the 07 cyclocross master bar. Come on! I am not the fastest or most consistent rider in the master field. If I can win a cyclocross bar then the bar can be a focus of fun as far as I am concerned (or broken down further by age maybe). OBRA is a family friendly organization, but it does not have to be ultra right wing. People. Your children know that some of you drink beer. Have any of you ever cursed? I do not have a problem with Pigs. They have a certain image that we humans can have fun with while doing those well proportioned critters no harm. Whores are another issue. They are people that need some help getting into a more safe occupation. I do not make fun of them. I could easily make fun of BAR points however because they are pretty darn funny as they are presently calculated. I also want to note to anyone reading this far that I fully do not understand all there is to know about BAR points... but for the one fact that I should not be winning a BAR competition unless I was the consistent best rider. People who love to and can ride many races should not be penalized, but just because I go to Eugene and win a cross race with 3-10 riders and finish 4-15th in a Portland race says it all to me.
ron

----- Original Message -----
From: craig austin
To: Leibowitz, Flo
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

While PC in more ways than one, Points Champ is not something that requires a vote. It's black and white -- most points=points champ.

What Kenji's talking about is the person or team who chooses when, where, and what category to race depending on which one will give them the Biggest Boost in the BAR. These people are not only generally sandbaggers, but they're willing and able to travel to every race in the state in order to win the Over-30, Under-200-lb, fixed gear Super D endurance category. In fact, they'll pass up the more popular races in order to attend the obscure ones so that even a DFL will give them BAR points. These are the folks you see at registration asking how many are signed up before they decide on the Cat 3 or Masters race. They're the 6'4" beanpoles who race the Clydesdale category because they're 198 and carry a water bottle.

To avoid offending anyone, let's call them something totally benign and innocent, like, I don't know, "tea bags."

Craig

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Leibowitz, Flo wrote:

That's the spirit. Thank you, Randy !

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Points Champ = PC

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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2008-12-09

There should be a best OBRA member blog award!

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:45:20 -0800, "Michele Chirgwin" wrote:
> I agree with you Flo. We can have fun without being demeaning.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Leibowitz, Flo
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:29 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> Hi Kenji --
> I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
> vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
> jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
> funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
> better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
> good-natured title that it could be called.
>
> Bet ya get more nominations that way.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
> To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.
>
> 1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
> 2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
> 3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
> 4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
> 5. Sandbagger award
> 6. Best racing story award
> 7. Official most likely to DQ you award
> 8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
> 9. Best photo of the year award.
> 10. Worst number placement award.
> 11. Biggest fan award.
>
> If you would like to make a nomination-
>
> Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
> always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
> good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
> can choose the finalists!
>
> We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
> awards.
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
>
>
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Chris Alling

2008-12-09

This is called niche racing.

Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:08:24 -0800From: useyourdagger@gmail.comTo: fleibowitz@oregonstate.eduCC: obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
While PC in more ways than one, Points Champ is not something that requires a vote. It's black and white -- most points=points champ.

What Kenji's talking about is the person or team who chooses when, where, and what category to race depending on which one will give them the Biggest Boost in the BAR. These people are not only generally sandbaggers, but they're willing and able to travel to every race in the state in order to win the Over-30, Under-200-lb, fixed gear Super D endurance category. In fact, they'll pass up the more popular races in order to attend the obscure ones so that even a DFL will give them BAR points. These are the folks you see at registration asking how many are signed up before they decide on the Cat 3 or Masters race. They're the 6'4" beanpoles who race the Clydesdale category because they're 198 and carry a water bottle.

To avoid offending anyone, let's call them something totally benign and innocent, like, I don't know, "tea bags."

Craig

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Leibowitz, Flo wrote:
That's the spirit. Thank you, Randy !-----Original Message-----From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] OnBehalf Of Randy DreilingSent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AMTo: obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun AwardsPoints Champ = PC Randy Dreiling----- Original Message ----From: "Leibowitz, Flo" To: obra@list.obra.orgSent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AMSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun AwardsHi Kenji --I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seemsvulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that termjokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't soundfunny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can dobetter? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a moregood-natured title that it could be called.Bet ya get more nominations that way.-----Original Message-----From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] OnBehalf Of T. Kenji SugaharaSent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PMTo: obra@otter.wsbaracing.comSubject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun AwardsThere will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award5. Sandbagger award6. Best racing story award7. Official most likely to DQ you award8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award9. Best photo of the year award.10. Worst number placement award.11. Biggest fan award.If you would like to make a nomination-Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It isalways best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so wecan choose the finalists!We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for theseawards.T. Kenji SugaharaExecutive DirectorOregon Bicycle Racing Association503-302-4935_______________________________________________OBRA mailing listobra@list.obra.orghttp://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obraUnsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org_______________________________________________OBRA mailing listobra@list.obra.orghttp://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obraUnsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org_______________________________________________OBRA mailing listobra@list.obra.orghttp://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obraUnsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org_______________________________________________OBRA mailing listobra@list.obra.orghttp://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obraUnsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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2008-12-09

BAR-Fers

Kevin

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Rick Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:29 PM
To: craig austin
Cc: Leibowitz, Flo; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

How about "BAR baggers"?

Rick

craig austin wrote:

While PC in more ways than one, Points Champ is not something that
requires a vote. It's black and white -- most points=points champ.

What Kenji's talking about is the person or team who chooses when,
where, and what category to race depending on which one will give them
the Biggest Boost in the BAR. These people are not only generally
sandbaggers, but they're willing and able to travel to every race in the
state in order to win the Over-30, Under-200-lb, fixed gear Super D
endurance category. In fact, they'll pass up the more popular races in
order to attend the obscure ones so that even a DFL will give them BAR
points. These are the folks you see at registration asking how many are
signed up before they decide on the Cat 3 or Masters race. They're the
6'4" beanpoles who race the Clydesdale category because they're 198 and
carry a water bottle.

To avoid offending anyone, let's call them something totally benign and
innocent, like, I don't know, "tea bags."

Craig

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Leibowitz, Flo
wrote:

That's the spirit. Thank you, Randy !

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Points Champ = PC

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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2008-12-09

BAR-Fers

Kevin

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Rick Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:29 PM
To: craig austin
Cc: Leibowitz, Flo; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

How about "BAR baggers"?

Rick

craig austin wrote:

While PC in more ways than one, Points Champ is not something that
requires a vote. It's black and white -- most points=points champ.

What Kenji's talking about is the person or team who chooses when,
where, and what category to race depending on which one will give them
the Biggest Boost in the BAR. These people are not only generally
sandbaggers, but they're willing and able to travel to every race in the
state in order to win the Over-30, Under-200-lb, fixed gear Super D
endurance category. In fact, they'll pass up the more popular races in
order to attend the obscure ones so that even a DFL will give them BAR
points. These are the folks you see at registration asking how many are
signed up before they decide on the Cat 3 or Masters race. They're the
6'4" beanpoles who race the Clydesdale category because they're 198 and
carry a water bottle.

To avoid offending anyone, let's call them something totally benign and
innocent, like, I don't know, "tea bags."

Craig

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Leibowitz, Flo
wrote:

That's the spirit. Thank you, Randy !

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Points Champ = PC

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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craig austin

2008-12-09

While PC in more ways than one, Points Champ is not something that requires
a vote. It's black and white -- most points=points champ.

What Kenji's talking about is the person or team who chooses when, where,
and what category to race depending on which one will give them the Biggest
Boost in the BAR. These people are not only generally sandbaggers, but
they're willing and able to travel to every race in the state in order to
win the Over-30, Under-200-lb, fixed gear Super D endurance category. In
fact, they'll pass up the more popular races in order to attend the obscure
ones so that even a DFL will give them BAR points. These are the folks you
see at registration asking how many are signed up before they decide on the
Cat 3 or Masters race. They're the 6'4" beanpoles who race the Clydesdale
category because they're 198 and carry a water bottle.

To avoid offending anyone, let's call them something totally benign and
innocent, like, I don't know, "tea bags."

Craig

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Leibowitz, Flo
wrote:

> That's the spirit. Thank you, Randy !
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> Points Champ = PC
>
> Randy Dreiling
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> Hi Kenji --
> I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
> vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
> jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
> funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
> better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
> good-natured title that it could be called.
>
> Bet ya get more nominations that way.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
> To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
>
> There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.
>
> 1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
> 2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
> 3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
> 4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
> 5. Sandbagger award
> 6. Best racing story award
> 7. Official most likely to DQ you award
> 8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
> 9. Best photo of the year award.
> 10. Worst number placement award.
> 11. Biggest fan award.
>
> If you would like to make a nomination-
>
> Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
> always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
> good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
> can choose the finalists!
>
> We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
> awards.
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
>
>
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Steve Brown

2008-12-09

Cobra Kai is a truly gifted writer. Not certain if this Cobra Kai
can race a bike, but is very funny.
On Dec 9, 2008, at 1:22 PM, David Rosen wrote:

> I will second that. Hilarious!
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Ryan Evans
> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> ReplyTo: jaleel_da_sheik@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
> Sent: Dec 9, 2008 12:42 PM
>
> Nomination for Category #8, Funniest OBRA Chat Posting(s):
>
> The Cobra Kai postings from this past spring get my vote!
>
> - Ryan
>
>
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2008-12-09

I will second that. Hilarious!

------Original Message------
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To: obra@list.obra.org
ReplyTo: jaleel_da_sheik@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
Sent: Dec 9, 2008 12:42 PM

Nomination for Category #8, Funniest OBRA Chat Posting(s):

The Cobra Kai postings from this past spring get my vote!

- Ryan

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2008-12-09

I will second that. Hilarious!

------Original Message------
From: Ryan Evans
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To: obra@list.obra.org
ReplyTo: jaleel_da_sheik@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
Sent: Dec 9, 2008 12:42 PM

Nomination for Category #8, Funniest OBRA Chat Posting(s):

The Cobra Kai postings from this past spring get my vote!

- Ryan

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Leibowitz, Flo

2008-12-09

That's the spirit. Thank you, Randy !

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:56 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Points Champ = PC

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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Michele Chirgwin

2008-12-09

I agree with you Flo. We can have fun without being demeaning.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Leibowitz, Flo
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:29 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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craig austin

2008-12-09

Anything by Cobra Kai = funniest OBRA post.

Craig

2008/12/9 Camille Hook

>
>
> "Tank" during the Keirin @ AVC 2008= Best crash caught on film
>
> > From:: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> > To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
> > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:45:07 -0800
>
> > There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.
> >
> > 1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
> > 2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
> > 3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
> > 4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
> > 5. Sandbagger award
> > 6. Best racing story award
> > 7. Official most likely to DQ you award
> > 8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
> > 9. Best photo of the year award.
> > 10. Worst number placement award.
> > 11. Biggest fan award.
> >
> > If you would like to make a nomination-
> >
> > Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
> > always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
> > good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
> > can choose the finalists!
> >
> > We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
> > awards.
> >
> > T. Kenji Sugahara
> > Executive Director
> > Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> > 503-302-4935
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Ryan Evans

2008-12-09

Nomination for Category #8, Funniest OBRA Chat Posting(s):

The Cobra Kai postings from this past spring get my vote!

- Ryan

Camille Hook

2008-12-09

"Tank" during the Keirin @ AVC 2008= Best crash caught on film

> From:: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:45:07 -0800

> There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.
>
> 1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
> 2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
> 3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
> 4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
> 5. Sandbagger award
> 6. Best racing story award
> 7. Official most likely to DQ you award
> 8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
> 9. Best photo of the year award.
> 10. Worst number placement award.
> 11. Biggest fan award.
>
> If you would like to make a nomination-
>
> Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
> always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
> good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
> can choose the finalists!
>
> We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
> awards.
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
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Peter Gutwald

2008-12-09

I'm offended by the word "Grundy" in the original post.

"Fun" awards... key word is "FUN".

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Erik Voldengen wrote:

> Not a gender specific term anymore. And I nominate Kenji for this
> title from his road season exploits.
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Erik Voldengen

2008-12-09

Not a gender specific term anymore. And I nominate Kenji for this
title from his road season exploits.

Randy Dreiling

2008-12-09

Points Champ = PC

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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Leibowitz, Flo

2008-12-09

Hi Kenji --
I don't mean to sound like a grundy, but the "point whore" name seems
vulgar and demeaning, to me. Ladies will sometimes use that term
jokingly amongst ourselves. But in general company it doesn't sound
funny to me any more. "Point Pig" isn't as bad but maybe someone can do
better? Since these are meant as good natured, maybe there is a more
good-natured title that it could be called.

Bet ya get more nominations that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: obra@otter.wsbaracing.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2008 OBRA Fun Awards

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

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T. Kenji Sugahara

2008-12-08

There will be 11 categories for the 2008 fun awards.

1. Best crash caught on film- the crasher will receive the award
2. Most unlucky rider award- crashes/mechanicals etc.
3. OTB award- best off the back/DFL story(ies)
4. Bar Whoor/Point Pig award
5. Sandbagger award
6. Best racing story award
7. Official most likely to DQ you award
8. Funniest OBRA Chat posting award
9. Best photo of the year award.
10. Worst number placement award.
11. Biggest fan award.

If you would like to make a nomination-

Please list the nominee's name and the reason they deserve it. It is
always best accompanied by a story and pictures for maximum enjoyment/
good natured embarrassment/fun. Please submit by December 17 so we
can choose the finalists!

We will be choosing/finding/salvaging some interesting items for these
awards.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935