No women's 4 category at Willamette?

Karey L. Miles

2009-01-05

Yes, I support Kim in the support for Cherry Blossom. While we do also need all the support we can get from the women for Willamette, in past years there has been low attendence. I still want to tons of women at Willamette as well...it looks to be a hard race this year, which is really exciting. Back to Kim's note - I hear that the Cherry Blossom SR is going to be an excellent race with great courses and especially since they are striving to make it a more "marketable" race for women - and there are most Cat's scored seperately, let's make a real effort to get as many women there as possible from all categories! This is a new race and so it should be exciting for all of us, and the more the merrier!

Karey

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:58:33 -0800, Kim Rueter wrote:
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I can’t help but take a moment to plug (shamelessly) the Cherry Blossom Classic stage race scheduled for April 3-5. Sorella Forte is helping promote this event....and as women we’re having our say on a lot of issues ;-) For starters, equal prize payout! Paying more to the guys for the same race is absurd, and we’re proud to say this event will be different. And we’ll have great primes for the women’s crit (from Title Nine and Specialized Designs for Women). But even more importantly are the race options for women. Not only will the Cat 4s have their own race (including their own crit!) the Cat 3 women will be scored separately as well (though racing with the 1-2s). The weather in The Dalles also tends to be much drier (with sunny skies) in April compared to the valley.
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This is going to be a great event (especially for women!). Please help us prove we warrant these options with a great women’s showing! Our event brochure will be online soon.
>

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I’ve also been told that the Mt. Hood Classic returns this year as it used to be....for all OBRA categories! This race is in addition to Chad’s newer, bigger, bolder Oregon stage race. I encourage you all to race at this event (first week of June). It has an amazing point-2-point TT (from The Dalles to Hood River) and a REALLY fun crit course.
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So if Willamette doesn’t pan out for Cat 4s, at least you know you have options.
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See you in April in The Dalles!!
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Thanks,
>
Kim Rueter
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Sorella Forte
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On 1/4/09 8:33 PM, "Kristin" wrote:
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Wow what a bummer. That's a really great first stage race for a newer racer too. I don't understand "not allowing" the 4's with the 1-2-3's... we did this last year, and also its like this at Elkhorn (for a MUCH longer and harder race!).
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k
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
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Kalli is correct. It's posted at http://mudslinger1.wordpress.com/willamette-stage-race/. There is no cat-4 women's field, and no cat-4 masters either. Only cat 1-2-3 women and cat 1-2-3 masters women are listed.
>

>
I had talked to Mike and Sal about this and I am very disappointed. I had hoped to do my first stage race this year, and it is really a bummer to not even have the opportunity to do this one which is so close to home for us in Corvallis. I will plan to do the Cherry Festival stage race instead, and encourage all the other women do likewise.
>

>
The reply I got back regarding Willamette was that it took too much extra manpower (officials and follow-cars for two road races), to add the extra field for cat-4. They didn't think enough women would sign up to cover the costs. Though I offered to help find volunteer officials and drivers, apparently that was not sufficient. And, apparently they have decided not to allow cat-4 women to race with the 1-2-3's field either.
>

>
I would be curious to know if anyone else has had a conversation about this, or if perhaps the decision is not yet final.
>

>
Melissa
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>
2009/1/4 Kristin
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>
where did you see this? it's not linked to on the OBRA schedule yet... I'm wondering if you're looking at something from last year. I did it as a cat 4 last year (i was one of four racers) and they ended up combining us with the senior women (although scoring us separately) since there weren't enough of us. I imagine that must be a mistake; maybe they meant to just run the cat 4's with the senior women? The promoter's a nice guy and is very accommodating, so I'm sure you will able to race.
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kristin
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Kalli Phillips wrote:
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I am more than a little disappointed--not to mention irritated--that I will not be able to race at Willamette this year.  I was really looking forward to it. So much so that I went online today to register and found that it is the ONLY category left out!  Why run a master's women and no 4's?  What of all the talk last season about creating a space for us up and coming 4's in stage races?
>

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What gives?
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OBRA_Women@list.obra.org
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http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_women
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> OBRA_Women mailing list
> OBRA_Women@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_women


Kim Rueter

2009-01-04

I can¹t help but take a moment to plug (shamelessly) the Cherry Blossom
Classic stage race scheduled for April 3-5. Sorella Forte is helping promote
this event....and as women we¹re having our say on a lot of issues ;-) For
starters, equal prize payout! Paying more to the guys for the same race is
absurd, and we¹re proud to say this event will be different. And we¹ll have
great primes for the women¹s crit (from Title Nine and Specialized Designs
for Women). But even more importantly are the race options for women. Not
only will the Cat 4s have their own race (including their own crit!) the Cat
3 women will be scored separately as well (though racing with the 1-2s). The
weather in The Dalles also tends to be much drier (with sunny skies) in
April compared to the valley.

This is going to be a great event (especially for women!). Please help us
prove we warrant these options with a great women¹s showing! Our event
brochure will be online soon.

I¹ve also been told that the Mt. Hood Classic returns this year as it used
to be....for all OBRA categories! This race is in addition to Chad¹s newer,
bigger, bolder Oregon stage race. I encourage you all to race at this event
(first week of June). It has an amazing point-2-point TT (from The Dalles to
Hood River) and a REALLY fun crit course.

So if Willamette doesn¹t pan out for Cat 4s, at least you know you have
options.

See you in April in The Dalles!!

Thanks,
Kim Rueter
Sorella Forte

On 1/4/09 8:33 PM, "Kristin" wrote:

> Wow what a bummer. That's a really great first stage race for a newer racer
> too. I don't understand "not allowing" the 4's with the 1-2-3's... we did this
> last year, and also its like this at Elkhorn (for a MUCH longer and harder
> race!).
>
> k
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
>> Kalli is correct. It's posted at
>> http://mudslinger1.wordpress.com/willamette-stage-race/. There is no cat-4
>> women's field, and no cat-4 masters either. Only cat 1-2-3 women and cat
>> 1-2-3 masters women are listed.
>>
>> I had talked to Mike and Sal about this and I am very disappointed. I had
>> hoped to do my first stage race this year, and it is really a bummer to not
>> even have the opportunity to do this one which is so close to home for us in
>> Corvallis. I will plan to do the Cherry Festival stage race instead, and
>> encourage all the other women do likewise.
>>
>> The reply I got back regarding Willamette was that it took too much extra
>> manpower (officials and follow-cars for two road races), to add the extra
>> field for cat-4. They didn't think enough women would sign up to cover the
>> costs. Though I offered to help find volunteer officials and drivers,
>> apparently that was not sufficient. And, apparently they have decided not to
>> allow cat-4 women to race with the 1-2-3's field either.
>>
>> I would be curious to know if anyone else has had a conversation about this,
>> or if perhaps the decision is not yet final.
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/4 Kristin
>>
>>> where did you see this? it's not linked to on the OBRA schedule yet... I'm
>>> wondering if you're looking at something from last year. I did it as a cat 4
>>> last year (i was one of four racers) and they ended up combining us with the
>>> senior women (although scoring us separately) since there weren't enough of
>>> us. I imagine that must be a mistake; maybe they meant to just run the cat
>>> 4's with the senior women? The promoter's a nice guy and is very
>>> accommodating, so I'm sure you will able to race.
>>>
>>> kristin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Kalli Phillips
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am more than a little disappointed--not to mention irritated--that I will
>>>> not be able to race at Willamette this year. I was really looking forward
>>>> to it. So much so that I went online today to register and found that it is
>>>> the ONLY category left out! Why run a master's women and no 4's? What of
>>>> all the talk last season about creating a space for us up and coming 4's in
>>>> stage races?
>>>>
>>>> What gives?
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> OBRA_Women mailing list
>>>> OBRA_Women@list.obra.org
>>>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_women
>>>
>>>


Kristin

2009-01-04

Wow what a bummer. That's a really great first stage race for a newer racer
too. I don't understand "not allowing" the 4's with the 1-2-3's... we did
this last year, and also its like this at Elkhorn (for a MUCH longer and
harder race!).

k

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:

> Kalli is correct. It's posted at
> http://mudslinger1.wordpress.com/willamette-stage-race/. There is no cat-4
> women's field, and no cat-4 masters either. Only cat 1-2-3 women and cat
> 1-2-3 masters women are listed.
>
> I had talked to Mike and Sal about this and I am very disappointed. I had
> hoped to do my first stage race this year, and it is really a bummer to not
> even have the opportunity to do this one which is so close to home for us in
> Corvallis. I will plan to do the Cherry Festival stage race instead, and
> encourage all the other women do likewise.
>
> The reply I got back regarding Willamette was that it took too much extra
> manpower (officials and follow-cars for two road races), to add the extra
> field for cat-4. They didn't think enough women would sign up to cover the
> costs. Though I offered to help find volunteer officials and drivers,
> apparently that was not sufficient. And, apparently they have decided not to
> allow cat-4 women to race with the 1-2-3's field either.
>
> I would be curious to know if anyone else has had a conversation about
> this, or if perhaps the decision is not yet final.
>
> Melissa
>
>
> 2009/1/4 Kristin
>
> where did you see this? it's not linked to on the OBRA schedule yet... I'm
>> wondering if you're looking at something from last year. I did it as a cat 4
>> last year (i was one of four racers) and they ended up combining us with the
>> senior women (although scoring us separately) since there weren't enough of
>> us. I imagine that must be a mistake; maybe they meant to just run the cat
>> 4's with the senior women? The promoter's a nice guy and is very
>> accommodating, so I'm sure you will able to race.
>>
>> kristin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Kalli Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> I am more than a little disappointed--not to mention irritated--that I
>>> will not be able to race at Willamette this year. I was really looking
>>> forward to it. So much so that I went online today to register and found
>>> that it is the ONLY category left out! Why run a master's women and no 4's?
>>> What of all the talk last season about creating a space for us up and
>>> coming 4's in stage races?
>>>
>>> What gives?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OBRA_Women mailing list
>>> OBRA_Women@list.obra.org
>>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_women
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> OBRA_Women@list.obra.org
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>>
>>
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Melissa Boyd

2009-01-04

Kalli is correct. It's posted at
http://mudslinger1.wordpress.com/willamette-stage-race/. There is no cat-4
women's field, and no cat-4 masters either. Only cat 1-2-3 women and cat
1-2-3 masters women are listed.

I had talked to Mike and Sal about this and I am very disappointed. I had
hoped to do my first stage race this year, and it is really a bummer to not
even have the opportunity to do this one which is so close to home for us in
Corvallis. I will plan to do the Cherry Festival stage race instead, and
encourage all the other women do likewise.

The reply I got back regarding Willamette was that it took too much extra
manpower (officials and follow-cars for two road races), to add the extra
field for cat-4. They didn't think enough women would sign up to cover the
costs. Though I offered to help find volunteer officials and drivers,
apparently that was not sufficient. And, apparently they have decided not to
allow cat-4 women to race with the 1-2-3's field either.

I would be curious to know if anyone else has had a conversation about this,
or if perhaps the decision is not yet final.

Melissa

2009/1/4 Kristin

> where did you see this? it's not linked to on the OBRA schedule yet... I'm
> wondering if you're looking at something from last year. I did it as a cat 4
> last year (i was one of four racers) and they ended up combining us with the
> senior women (although scoring us separately) since there weren't enough of
> us. I imagine that must be a mistake; maybe they meant to just run the cat
> 4's with the senior women? The promoter's a nice guy and is very
> accommodating, so I'm sure you will able to race.
>
> kristin
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Kalli Phillips wrote:
>
>> I am more than a little disappointed--not to mention irritated--that I
>> will not be able to race at Willamette this year. I was really looking
>> forward to it. So much so that I went online today to register and found
>> that it is the ONLY category left out! Why run a master's women and no 4's?
>> What of all the talk last season about creating a space for us up and
>> coming 4's in stage races?
>>
>> What gives?
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA_Women mailing list
>> OBRA_Women@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_women
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> www.runbikeswim.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA_Women mailing list
> OBRA_Women@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_women
>
>


Kristin

2009-01-04

where did you see this? it's not linked to on the OBRA schedule yet... I'm
wondering if you're looking at something from last year. I did it as a cat 4
last year (i was one of four racers) and they ended up combining us with the
senior women (although scoring us separately) since there weren't enough of
us. I imagine that must be a mistake; maybe they meant to just run the cat
4's with the senior women? The promoter's a nice guy and is very
accommodating, so I'm sure you will able to race.

kristin

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Kalli Phillips wrote:

> I am more than a little disappointed--not to mention irritated--that I will
> not be able to race at Willamette this year. I was really looking forward
> to it. So much so that I went online today to register and found that it is
> the ONLY category left out! Why run a master's women and no 4's? What of
> all the talk last season about creating a space for us up and coming 4's in
> stage races?
>
> What gives?
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA_Women mailing list
> OBRA_Women@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_women
>

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Kalli Phillips

2009-01-04

I am more than a little disappointed--not to mention irritated--that I will not be able to race at Willamette this year. I was really looking forward to it. So much so that I went online today to register and found that it is the ONLY category left out! Why run a master's women and no 4's? What of all the talk last season about creating a space for us up and coming 4's in stage races?

What gives?