Rewording the age rule change

Candi Murray

2009-01-12

I just got clarification from Usac. It would make your ccx age 1 year older
then your road age.
Candi

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
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Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change

My birthday is January 8. Does this mean I won't get the new age group I've
been planning on for the second year that the nats are in Bend? I'm getting
really old. I might not make it another year. I need a new age group.
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c.rycewicz@comcast.net

2009-01-12

Hmmm, now you've got me thinking. Lets assume that my racing age for CX under the USCF rule was 39 for 2008. Would my racing age change to 40 if I were go to CX worlds in January, 2009, i.e. would I be eligible to race in an older field at worlds than throughout the '08 season?

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-------------- Original message --------------
From: Jerald M Powell
well... until January first of that same season, when your racing age for 'cross (should you ride another cross race after the new year) will still be 40 and your road/track age will catch up. Are we on the same page here?

For folks still wondering why bother... I'd suggest that OBRA could very well send some age graded riders to 'cross worlds... and it would make a difference in the field they were eligible to ride.

Jerry

On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:10 AM, c.rycewicz@comcast.net wrote:

As i understand the new rule, it will make the OBRA racing age for CX the same as under USCF rules. Under the applicable USCF rule, your racing age is the age you reach during the year in which CX worlds occur. Because CX worlds are always after the new year, your CX racing age is one year older than your age for non-cx disciplines. For example, if your racing age is 39 on the track, it will be 40 for CX.

--
Christopher A. Rycewicz
c.rycewicz@comcast.net

-------------- Original message --------------
From: johnfforbes@comcast.net

> Cool! I actually get two more years in my ancient age group. After that the
> situation becomes grave.
>
> --
> John Forbes
> 3641 SW 52nd Place,
> Portland, OR 97221
> 503-422-1239
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "ENGELMANN Michael"
> > AMEN TO THAT!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:13 AM
> > To: donoso@bendnet.com; melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule c hange
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't need any help getting older any faster than I already am.
> >
> > Cliff McCann
> > Pistis Ministries
> > Pistis.us
> > 541-659-4104
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: donoso@bendnet.com
> > To: melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:29:53 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
> >
> > Exactly you will be one year older for cross than your other categories.
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

From: johnfforbes@comcast.net

Date: January 12, 2009 10:59:21 AM PST

To: "ENGELMANN Michael" ,

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change

From: "ENGELMANN Michael"

Date: January 12, 2009 10:48:09 AM PST

To:

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change

AMEN TO THAT!!


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To:donoso@bendnet.com; melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject:Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change

I don't need any help getting older any faster than I already am.

Cliff McCann
Pistis Ministries
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From: donoso@bendnet.com
To: melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:29:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change

Exactly you will be one year older for cross than your other categories.
Don
On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:


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Todd.Dye@CH2M.com

2009-01-12

Candi,

The wording proposed is confusing because "cyclocross season" isn't defined (is it defined somewhere else in the ORBRA rules?) and you need to use the term "racing age" instead of "age"

How about this:

"Racing age is defined as the age the rider will be on December 31 of the current year EXCEPT for Cyclocross which will use the racing age for the calendar year in which the Cyclocross season concludes (as defined by the date of the World Championships)."

So, that means in the fall 2009 we will be racing the 2010 cyclocross season, and your racing age for Cross is your 2010 racing age. Or to put it another way, if you will be 35 years old by December 31st 2010, you could race a 35+ cross race starting in Sep 2009.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:35 PM
To: 'obra'
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change

For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any better sense?
It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your ccx age will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.

Candi

6.5 - AGE GRADED CATEGORIES
Racing age is defined as the age the rider will be on December 31 of the current year EXCEPT for Cyclocross which will be the age of January 1 of the Cyclocross season.
Age graded races are defined at the discretion of the race organizer subject to the following:
MASTERS may be any age range 30 or older. If no age range is stated on the Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 40 and older.
JUNIORS may be any age range 10 to 18. If no age range is stated on the Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 18 and younger.
YOUTH will be the age range of under 10. Youth riders may enter only youth races. A youth race is a race held only on a closed course that is open only to riders with racing ages below 10, or limited time trial courses.

6.6 Mixing of Classes and Categories
6.6.1 Eligibility. No rider may race in a category other than that which is stated on his or her membership.
6.6.2. Women may enter any race for which they are eligible by age, category, and any performance requirements and may enter categorized races for men that are up to one category lower than their women's category, or in the case of category 1 women, up to two categories lower.
6.6.3. Mixing of Classes. An organizer may offer races for combined classifications and categories but the categories in a given race must be the same for all age groups. All riders shall race the same distance unless there is a distance handicapped start for separate groupings of riders.
6.6.4 Youth races will not be run with adult races.

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Jerald M Powell

2009-01-12

well... until January first of that same season, when your racing age
for 'cross (should you ride another cross race after the new year)
will still be 40 and your road/track age will catch up. Are we on the
same page here?

For folks still wondering why bother... I'd suggest that OBRA could
very well send some age graded riders to 'cross worlds... and it would
make a difference in the field they were eligible to ride.

Jerry

On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:10 AM, c.rycewicz@comcast.net wrote:

> As i understand the new rule, it will make the OBRA racing age for
> CX the same as under USCF rules. Under the applicable USCF rule,
> your racing age is the age you reach during the year in which CX
> worlds occur. Because CX worlds are always after the new year, your
> CX racing age is one year older than your age for non-cx
> disciplines. For example, if your racing age is 39 on the track, it
> will be 40 for CX.
>
> --
> Christopher A. Rycewicz
> c.rycewicz@comcast.net
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: johnfforbes@comcast.net
>
> > Cool! I actually get two more years in my ancient age group. After
> that the
> > situation becomes grave.
> >
> > --
> > John Forbes
> > 3641 SW 52nd Place,
> > Portland, OR 97221
> > 503-422-1239
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "ENGELMANN Michael"
> > > AMEN TO THAT!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ] On
> > > Behalf Of Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
> > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:13 AM
> > > To: donoso@bendnet.com; melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule c hange
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't need any help getting older any faster than I already am.
> > >
> > > Cliff McCann
> > > Pistis Ministries
> > > Pistis.us
> > > 541-659-4104
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: donoso@bendnet.com
> > > To: melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:29:53 -0800
> > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
> > >
> > > Exactly you will be one year older for cross than your other
> categories.
> > >
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > > On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> From: johnfforbes@comcast.net
> Date: January 12, 2009 10:59:21 AM PST
> To: "ENGELMANN Michael" , >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
>
>
>
> From: "ENGELMANN Michael"
> Date: January 12, 2009 10:48:09 AM PST
> To:
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
>
>
> AMEN TO THAT!!
>
>
> From:obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-
> bounces@list.obra.org]On Behalf Of Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
> Sent:Monday, January 12, 2009 10:13 AM
> To:donoso@bendnet.com; melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject:Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
>
> I don't need any help getting older any faster than I already am.
>
> Cliff McCann
> Pistis Ministries
> Pistis.us
> 541-659-4104
>
>
>
> From: donoso@bendnet.com
> To: melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:29:53 -0800
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
>
> Exactly you will be one year older for cross than your other
> categories.
> Don
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
>
>
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c.rycewicz@comcast.net

2009-01-12

As i understand the new rule, it will make the OBRA racing age for CX the same as under USCF rules. Under the applicable USCF rule, your racing age is the age you reach during the year in which CX worlds occur. Because CX worlds are always after the new year, your CX racing age is one year older than your age for non-cx disciplines. For example, if your racing age is 39 on the track, it will be 40 for CX.

--
Christopher A. Rycewicz
c.rycewicz@comcast.net

-------------- Original message --------------
From: johnfforbes@comcast.net

> Cool! I actually get two more years in my ancient age group. After that the
> situation becomes grave.
>
> --
> John Forbes
> 3641 SW 52nd Place,
> Portland, OR 97221
> 503-422-1239
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "ENGELMANN Michael"
> > AMEN TO THAT!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:13 AM
> > To: donoso@bendnet.com; melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't need any help getting older any faster than I already am.
> >
> > Cliff McCann
> > Pistis Ministries
> > Pistis.us
> > 541-659-4104
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: donoso@bendnet.com
> > To: melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:29:53 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
> >
> > Exactly you will be one year older for cross than your other categories.
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


johnfforbes@comcast.net

2009-01-12

Cool! I actually get two more years in my ancient age group. After that the situation becomes grave.

--
John Forbes
3641 SW 52nd Place,
Portland, OR 97221
503-422-1239

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "ENGELMANN Michael"
> AMEN TO THAT!!
>
>
>
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:13 AM
> To: donoso@bendnet.com; melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
>
>
>
> I don't need any help getting older any faster than I already am.
>
> Cliff McCann
> Pistis Ministries
> Pistis.us
> 541-659-4104
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: donoso@bendnet.com
> To: melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:29:53 -0800
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
>
> Exactly you will be one year older for cross than your other categories.
>
>
> Don
>
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>


ENGELMANN Michael

2009-01-12

AMEN TO THAT!!

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:13 AM
To: donoso@bendnet.com; melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change

I don't need any help getting older any faster than I already am.

Cliff McCann
Pistis Ministries
Pistis.us
541-659-4104

________________________________

From: donoso@bendnet.com
To: melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:29:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change

Exactly you will be one year older for cross than your other categories.

Don

On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:


Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team

2009-01-12

I don't need any help getting older any faster than I already am. Cliff McCann Pistis MinistriesPistis.us541-659-4104

From: donoso@bendnet.comTo: melissafroggie@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.orgDate: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:29:53 -0800Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule changeExactly you will be one year older for cross than your other categories.
Don

On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
Wouldn't that imply that your CX racing age should be one year older than your road racing age, and not one year younger?----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, wrote:
Could be because USA Cycling and Worlds age is one year up. Ie, Jake is racing age 18 this year but for cyclocross he'll be U23 since Nationals is in December and Worlds is in January.Right Candi?

-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Erik Voldengen" > What is the point of having different age rules for Road and CX?>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Candi Murray wrote:> > For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any better sense?> > It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your ccx age> > will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.> >> > Candi> _______________________________________________> OBRA mailing list> obra@list.obra.org> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org_______________________________________________OBRA mailing listobra@list.obra.orghttp://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obraUnsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org_______________________________________________OBRA mailing listobra@list.obra.orghttp://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obraUnsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Don Leet

2009-01-12

Exactly you will be one year older for cross than your other categories.
Don
On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Melissa Boyd wrote:

> Wouldn't that imply that your CX racing age should be one year older
> than your road racing age, and not one year younger?
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, wrote:
> Could be because USA Cycling and Worlds age is one year up. Ie, Jake
> is racing age 18 this year but for cyclocross he'll be U23 since
> Nationals is in December and Worlds is in January.
> Right Candi?
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Erik Voldengen"
> > What is the point of having different age rules for Road and CX?
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Candi Murray
> wrote:
> > > For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any
> better sense?
> > > It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st,
> your ccx age
> > > will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other
> disciplines.
> > >
> > > Candi
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Don Leet

2009-01-12

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Don Leet
> Date: January 12, 2009 5:23:33 AM PST
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
>
> USA Cycling considers the cross season to be part of two years, the
> year it starts and the year world championships are. If you are a jr
> or under 23 you then must race in the age group you will be in when
> the world championships take place. So, for example this year if you
> started the cross season being a jr (September 2008) and qualified
> for worlds (Jan 2009) you would need to have started the year with
> 2009 in mind. About 5 years ago USA cycling adapted this rule for
> all age groups, masters whatever (this was the second year nationals
> were in Portland). Since we have Nationals in Bend for two years we
> thought we would make OBRA the same as USA Cycling so everyone would
> know what age group they will race come Nationals. Questions like
> yours will be answered now instead on in the registration line.
Don
PS Sorry for the two posts
>
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Erik Voldengen wrote:
>
>> What is the point of having different age rules for Road and CX?
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Candi Murray
>> wrote:
>>> For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any
>>> better sense?
>>> It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your
>>> ccx age
>>> will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other
>>> disciplines.
>>>
>>> Candi
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>


Don Leet

2009-01-12

USA Cycling considers the cross season to be part of two years, the
year it starts and the year world championships are. If you are a jr
or under 23 you then must race in the age group you will be in when
the world championships take place. So, for example this year if you
started the cross season being a jr (September 2008) and qualified for
worlds (Jan 2009) wyou
On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Erik Voldengen wrote:

> What is the point of having different age rules for Road and CX?
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Candi Murray
> wrote:
>> For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any
>> better sense?
>> It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your
>> ccx age
>> will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.
>>
>> Candi
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Melissa Boyd

2009-01-11

Wouldn't that imply that your CX racing age should be one year older than
your road racing age, and not one year younger?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, wrote:

> Could be because USA Cycling and Worlds age is one year up. Ie, Jake is
> racing age 18 this year but for cyclocross he'll be U23 since Nationals is
> in December and Worlds is in January.
> Right Candi?
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Erik Voldengen"
> > What is the point of having different age rules for Road and CX?
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Candi Murray wrote:
> > > For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any better
> sense?
> > > It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your ccx
> age
> > > will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.
> > >
> > > Candi
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mellierat@comcast.net

2009-01-11

Could be because USA Cycling and Worlds age is one year up. Ie, Jake is racing age 18 this year but for cyclocross he'll be U23 since Nationals is in December and Worlds is in January.
Right Candi?

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Erik Voldengen"
> What is the point of having different age rules for Road and CX?
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Candi Murray wrote:
> > For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any better sense?
> > It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your ccx age
> > will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.
> >
> > Candi
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Erik Voldengen

2009-01-11

What is the point of having different age rules for Road and CX?

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Candi Murray wrote:
> For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any better sense?
> It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your ccx age
> will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.
>
> Candi


David Gustafson

2009-01-11

My birthday is January 8. Does this mean I won't get the new age group I've been planning on for the second year that the nats are in Bend? I'm getting really old. I might not make it another year. I need a new age group.


scott hill

2009-01-11

you have to ask, who does this help? who wanted the rules changed? in st.louis they changed the masters rules to 40+ because they got tired of getting their buts kicked every weekend by 35 year olds.
scott

--- On Sun, 1/11/09, joe cipale wrote:

From: joe cipale
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rewording the age rule change
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: "'obra'"
Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 7:45 PM

This seems like a wordy, unnecessary rule change WRT ages. Whatever
happened to keeping rules simple and easy to follow?

On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 17:34 -0800, Candi Murray wrote:
> For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any better
sense?
> It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your ccx age
> will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.
>
> Candi
>
> 6.5 - AGE GRADED CATEGORIES
> Racing age is defined as the age the rider will be on December 31 of the
> current year EXCEPT for Cyclocross which will be the age of January 1 of
> the Cyclocross season.
> Age graded races are defined at the discretion of the race organizer
subject
> to the following:
> MASTERS may be any age range 30 or older. If no age range is stated on the
> Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 40 and older.
> JUNIORS may be any age range 10 to 18. If no age range is stated on the
> Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 18 and younger.
> YOUTH will be the age range of under 10. Youth riders may enter only
youth
> races. A youth race is a race held only on a closed course that is open
> only to riders with racing ages below 10, or limited time trial courses.
>
> 6.6 Mixing of Classes and Categories
> 6.6.1 Eligibility. No rider may race in a category other than that which
is
> stated on his or her membership.
> 6.6.2. Women may enter any race for which they are eligible by age,
> category, and any performance requirements and may enter categorized races
> for men that are up to one category lower than their women's category,
or in
> the case of category 1 women, up to two categories lower.
> 6.6.3. Mixing of Classes. An organizer may offer races for combined
> classifications and categories but the categories in a given race must be
> the same for all age groups. All riders shall race the same distance
unless
> there is a distance handicapped start for separate groupings of riders.
> 6.6.4 Youth races will not be run with adult races.
>
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joe cipale

2009-01-11

This seems like a wordy, unnecessary rule change WRT ages. Whatever
happened to keeping rules simple and easy to follow?

On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 17:34 -0800, Candi Murray wrote:
> For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any better sense?
> It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your ccx age
> will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.
>
> Candi
>
> 6.5 - AGE GRADED CATEGORIES
> Racing age is defined as the age the rider will be on December 31 of the
> current year EXCEPT for Cyclocross which will be the age of January 1 of
> the Cyclocross season.
> Age graded races are defined at the discretion of the race organizer subject
> to the following:
> MASTERS may be any age range 30 or older. If no age range is stated on the
> Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 40 and older.
> JUNIORS may be any age range 10 to 18. If no age range is stated on the
> Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 18 and younger.
> YOUTH will be the age range of under 10. Youth riders may enter only youth
> races. A youth race is a race held only on a closed course that is open
> only to riders with racing ages below 10, or limited time trial courses.
>
> 6.6 Mixing of Classes and Categories
> 6.6.1 Eligibility. No rider may race in a category other than that which is
> stated on his or her membership.
> 6.6.2. Women may enter any race for which they are eligible by age,
> category, and any performance requirements and may enter categorized races
> for men that are up to one category lower than their women's category, or in
> the case of category 1 women, up to two categories lower.
> 6.6.3. Mixing of Classes. An organizer may offer races for combined
> classifications and categories but the categories in a given race must be
> the same for all age groups. All riders shall race the same distance unless
> there is a distance handicapped start for separate groupings of riders.
> 6.6.4 Youth races will not be run with adult races.
>
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Candi Murray

2009-01-11

For those of you that were at the meeting. Does this make any better sense?
It will mean that for everyone, except those born on Jan 1st, your ccx age
will be 1 year less then your race age for all the other disciplines.

Candi

6.5 - AGE GRADED CATEGORIES
Racing age is defined as the age the rider will be on December 31 of the
current year EXCEPT for Cyclocross which will be the age of January 1 of
the Cyclocross season.
Age graded races are defined at the discretion of the race organizer subject
to the following:
MASTERS may be any age range 30 or older. If no age range is stated on the
Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 40 and older.
JUNIORS may be any age range 10 to 18. If no age range is stated on the
Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 18 and younger.
YOUTH will be the age range of under 10. Youth riders may enter only youth
races. A youth race is a race held only on a closed course that is open
only to riders with racing ages below 10, or limited time trial courses.

6.6 Mixing of Classes and Categories
6.6.1 Eligibility. No rider may race in a category other than that which is
stated on his or her membership.
6.6.2. Women may enter any race for which they are eligible by age,
category, and any performance requirements and may enter categorized races
for men that are up to one category lower than their women's category, or in
the case of category 1 women, up to two categories lower.
6.6.3. Mixing of Classes. An organizer may offer races for combined
classifications and categories but the categories in a given race must be
the same for all age groups. All riders shall race the same distance unless
there is a distance handicapped start for separate groupings of riders.
6.6.4 Youth races will not be run with adult races.