] Flat, deserted roads in PDX that are lit at night

Jerald M Powell

2009-01-17

The Kelly Point park loop was a regular training ground for the old
Oregon Velo Club in the 1980's. On evenings and weekends the truch
traffic was nil and we did gap bridging drills, pace line, blocking,
attack practice... sprints. Good road for all that. Many of the
other places we used for group training and motor pace work are no
longer available.

I'd argue that a lot of the group work is available at Delta Park...
but like in the "old days" it has to be used as a training race.
Winning is (in that context) unimportant, the racing experience and
conditioning are.

Jerry

On Jan 16, 2009, at 6:08 PM, jmsmech-obra@yahoo.com wrote:

> The loop around kelly point, ie , north columbia blvd, n lombard st,
> n marine drive, north portland rd is fully lit. About a 10 mile
> loop. except for a small stretch on north portland rd, its either
> bike laned, four laned, or wide shouldered, with very little traffic
> after 6 or so. I checked it out pretty thoroughly a couple years
> ago when i tried to get a little group ride going, for work on fine
> finesse points of pacelining (that so few in oregon ever seem to
> practice), work on spin and some speed, you know, what you need to
> win a race... to no avail.
>
> There are three small hills (overpasses...) for the most part no
> interruptions, ie you shouldn't have to stop if you go clockwise.
> perfect for TT efforts.
>
> Another great option is to ride with the PWTC out of Wilshire park.
> They go out this way plus some on Tues night..and another mostly lit
> route on thurs. usually a lot of regroup and interruptions here and
> there, but it does have a nice flow regardless. Many racers, or ex-
> racers, etc, on this ride in the winter. I am getting very fat so
> need to start myself.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=97203&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.592876,65.214844&ie=UTF8&ll=45.611276,-122.745781&spn=0.068446,0.127373&z=13&iwloc=addr
>
>
> --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Meadors, Ivan C wrote:
>
>> From: Meadors, Ivan C
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] ] Flat, deserted roads in PDX that are lit at
>> night
>> To: "speithman@yahoo.com" ,
>> "obra@list.obra.org"
>> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:33 PM
>> Regardless of where you eventually ride, I would recommend
>> riding with at least one other person:
>>
>> * More visibility
>>
>> * Safety from random acts of violence
>>
>> * Mechanical support (someone to hold a light when you get
>> a flat)
>>
>>
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>>
>>
>> [cid:image002.jpg@01C977F8.19B46FA0]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Susan
>> Peithman
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:25 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Flat, deserted roads in PDX that are
>> lit at night
>>
>>
>>
>> Afternoon - I am looking for some suggestions on a flat,
>> decently lit road or series of roads that I can do a good 60
>> minute effort on. I have been on the bike paths lately at
>> night and my light is certainly not bright enough (I keep
>> fearing that I am going to get disoriented and end up in the
>> Columbia). My preference is for something on the east side.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any experience at the
>> following locations:
>>
>> 1. the roads around the expo at PIR
>>
>> 2. Swan Island
>>
>> 3. roads around the airport
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Susan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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jmsmech-obra@yahoo.com

2009-01-16

The loop around kelly point, ie , north columbia blvd, n lombard st, n marine drive, north portland rd is fully lit. About a 10 mile loop. except for a small stretch on north portland rd, its either bike laned, four laned, or wide shouldered, with very little traffic after 6 or so. I checked it out pretty thoroughly a couple years ago when i tried to get a little group ride going, for work on fine finesse points of pacelining (that so few in oregon ever seem to practice), work on spin and some speed, you know, what you need to win a race... to no avail.

There are three small hills (overpasses...) for the most part no interruptions, ie you shouldn't have to stop if you go clockwise. perfect for TT efforts.

Another great option is to ride with the PWTC out of Wilshire park. They go out this way plus some on Tues night..and another mostly lit route on thurs. usually a lot of regroup and interruptions here and there, but it does have a nice flow regardless. Many racers, or ex-racers, etc, on this ride in the winter. I am getting very fat so need to start myself.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=97203&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.592876,65.214844&ie=UTF8&ll=45.611276,-122.745781&spn=0.068446,0.127373&z=13&iwloc=addr

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Meadors, Ivan C wrote:

> From: Meadors, Ivan C
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] ] Flat, deserted roads in PDX that are lit at night
> To: "speithman@yahoo.com" , "obra@list.obra.org"
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:33 PM
> Regardless of where you eventually ride, I would recommend
> riding with at least one other person:
>
> * More visibility
>
> * Safety from random acts of violence
>
> * Mechanical support (someone to hold a light when you get
> a flat)
>
>
>
> Ivan
>
>
>
> [cid:image002.jpg@01C977F8.19B46FA0]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Susan
> Peithman
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:25 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Flat, deserted roads in PDX that are
> lit at night
>
>
>
> Afternoon - I am looking for some suggestions on a flat,
> decently lit road or series of roads that I can do a good 60
> minute effort on. I have been on the bike paths lately at
> night and my light is certainly not bright enough (I keep
> fearing that I am going to get disoriented and end up in the
> Columbia). My preference is for something on the east side.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you have any experience at the
> following locations:
>
> 1. the roads around the expo at PIR
>
> 2. Swan Island
>
> 3. roads around the airport
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Susan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Meadors, Ivan C

2009-01-16

Regardless of where you eventually ride, I would recommend riding with at least one other person:

* More visibility

* Safety from random acts of violence

* Mechanical support (someone to hold a light when you get a flat)

Ivan

[cid:image002.jpg@01C977F8.19B46FA0]

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Susan Peithman
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:25 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Flat, deserted roads in PDX that are lit at night

Afternoon - I am looking for some suggestions on a flat, decently lit road or series of roads that I can do a good 60 minute effort on. I have been on the bike paths lately at night and my light is certainly not bright enough (I keep fearing that I am going to get disoriented and end up in the Columbia). My preference is for something on the east side.

Please let me know if you have any experience at the following locations:

1. the roads around the expo at PIR

2. Swan Island

3. roads around the airport

Thanks,

Susan

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