David Hart

While I do feel that obra is more than fair for the membership fee and all,
it's hard to cough up $30 a race now.

On some of these races, what is the payout? A water bottle and gel? Maybe
some tires? If you charge a lot for your entry fee and 400+ people show up,
please give back something decent. Not pay 3 deep in ribbons...

I will always strive too keep my entry fees $20 and under. I am not out to
make a killing on a race but putting on a race to put prizes and $$$ into
the pockets of the riders...not mine.

David Hart
Race Organizer
Team Guinness

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Ron and Dorothy Strasser <
rondot@spiritone.com> wrote:

> I join and I let them know what I think. OBRA gets the basics, which leads
> to excellence while they seem to not really get the concept of cost vs.
> value, especially with regard to treatment of team members. This is what I
> have seen in the USA Cycling organization. If that is not the case, let
> them prove it to me and many others. I always question authority when it
> reminds me of a bully.
> ron
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Fitzgerald"
>
> To: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Did you see the Competitive Cyclist story?
>
>
> There is a reason I never race in my home state of Washington. I don't
>> want to give a dime to the USCF after being a member for many many years.
>>
>> OBRA is a breath of fresh air.
>>
>> -sf
>>
>> T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=WHATS_NEW
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks to Paul Taylor for the heads up.
>>>
>>> T. Kenji Sugahara
>>> Executive Director
>>> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association 503-302-4935
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> obra@list.obra.org
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>>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>>
>>>
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david hart

Ron and Dorothy Strasser

I join and I let them know what I think. OBRA gets the basics, which leads
to excellence while they seem to not really get the concept of cost vs.
value, especially with regard to treatment of team members. This is what I
have seen in the USA Cycling organization. If that is not the case, let
them prove it to me and many others. I always question authority when it
reminds me of a bully.
ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Fitzgerald"
To: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Did you see the Competitive Cyclist story?

> There is a reason I never race in my home state of Washington. I don't
> want to give a dime to the USCF after being a member for many many years.
>
> OBRA is a breath of fresh air.
>
> -sf
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
>>> http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=WHATS_NEW
>>
>> Thanks to Paul Taylor for the heads up.
>>
>> T. Kenji Sugahara
>> Executive Director
>> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association 503-302-4935
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
>
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David Rosen

We are all SOOO lucky to have OBRA. Thank you to everyone for making this such a great state to be a cycling enthusiast in.

Proudly,
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: eric aldinger

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:11:51
To: T. Kenji Sugahara
Cc: obra@list.obra.org e-mail
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Did you see the Competitive Cyclist story?

_______________________________________________
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Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org

Stephen Fitzgerald

There is a reason I never race in my home state of Washington. I don't
want to give a dime to the USCF after being a member for many many years.

OBRA is a breath of fresh air.

-sf

T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
>> http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=WHATS_NEW
>
> Thanks to Paul Taylor for the heads up.
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>

eric aldinger

Wow, that makes me happy to be under OBRA. For them to be $8M in the black
and only spend $70k on the BMX program is short sighted. Imagine the radness
you and your kid(s) could throw down on a $500,000.00 BMX track. I would
never grouse about exorbanant licensing fees knowing the sport is going to
be around for my daughter to enjoy.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:53 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:

> http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=WHATS_NEW
>>
>
> Thanks to Paul Taylor for the heads up.
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>

--
iamerichearmeroar

T. Kenji Sugahara

> http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=WHATS_NEW

Thanks to Paul Taylor for the heads up.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935