Re: Dear mister...

lisa graham

2009-01-27

Ha! I know some nine and ten-year-olds that race too, and they swear more than "grown ups"
Give it a rest.

> From: mellierat@comcast.net
> To: baldboy247@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:58:48 +0000
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Dear mister...
>
> Actually, it wasn't the 'a' word that got me as much as the pr...k word in the content of the complaint. I'm not judging the use of such language.........just asking we keep things in perspective as to who the audience is.
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Brian Mitchell
> > It's pretty funny and ironic to me that people who continue to
> > object to the "verbiage" posted to the list continue to voice their
> > complaints without removing the "offensive" word from the subject
> > line. It is a word. Good introduction to alternative views of what
> > is appropriate in a public environment, and may require a bit of an
> > explanation to those who are younger. Welcome to a new developmental
> > stage, which may require dealing with the complex idea that while one
> > may disagree with a statement, comment, "verbiage" etc, the right to
> > express this very same thing is important to respect. I don't
> > remember the author calling you (or your 9 year old, for that matter)
> > an asshole; Rather, it was a retelling of a personal experience. How
> > does this original post discourage young people? I choose to
> > respectfully disagree with you, and ask you to think about it as well.
> > On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:29 PM, mellierat@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> > > Give me a break. We're not just talking high school kids who read
> > > OBRA chat. I happen to know a couple of 9 & 10 year olds who are
> > > avid cyclists who look to the OBRA community for encouragement and
> > > support! They read OBRA chat, go to races and look up to us as roll
> > > models. Having someone post stupid comments with inappropriate
> > > verbiage is irresponsible. Think about it!
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: Jennifer CArroll
> > >> it's funny, i went to pick someone up from their highschool the
> > >> other day, and
> > >> as i was standing there waiting for him watching and catching bits of
> > >> conversation of the kids passing by, almost every kid that passed
> > >> said a curse
> > >> word. so to try and keep them from reading one word that isn't even
> > >> the worst of
> > >> them all and was kept in context, you might as well put your kid in
> > >> a bubble,
> > >> homeschool them, only allow them to go to church organized events,
> > >> and have
> > >> every channel on your television blocked except for OPB.
> > >> I have a good feeling that you have cursed in front of your kids at
> > >> some point.
> > >> If not you, then someone close to you.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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mellierat@comcast.net

2009-01-27

Actually, it wasn't the 'a' word that got me as much as the pr...k word in the content of the complaint. I'm not judging the use of such language.........just asking we keep things in perspective as to who the audience is.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Brian Mitchell
> It's pretty funny and ironic to me that people who continue to
> object to the "verbiage" posted to the list continue to voice their
> complaints without removing the "offensive" word from the subject
> line. It is a word. Good introduction to alternative views of what
> is appropriate in a public environment, and may require a bit of an
> explanation to those who are younger. Welcome to a new developmental
> stage, which may require dealing with the complex idea that while one
> may disagree with a statement, comment, "verbiage" etc, the right to
> express this very same thing is important to respect. I don't
> remember the author calling you (or your 9 year old, for that matter)
> an asshole; Rather, it was a retelling of a personal experience. How
> does this original post discourage young people? I choose to
> respectfully disagree with you, and ask you to think about it as well.
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:29 PM, mellierat@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > Give me a break. We're not just talking high school kids who read
> > OBRA chat. I happen to know a couple of 9 & 10 year olds who are
> > avid cyclists who look to the OBRA community for encouragement and
> > support! They read OBRA chat, go to races and look up to us as roll
> > models. Having someone post stupid comments with inappropriate
> > verbiage is irresponsible. Think about it!
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Jennifer CArroll
> >> it's funny, i went to pick someone up from their highschool the
> >> other day, and
> >> as i was standing there waiting for him watching and catching bits of
> >> conversation of the kids passing by, almost every kid that passed
> >> said a curse
> >> word. so to try and keep them from reading one word that isn't even
> >> the worst of
> >> them all and was kept in context, you might as well put your kid in
> >> a bubble,
> >> homeschool them, only allow them to go to church organized events,
> >> and have
> >> every channel on your television blocked except for OPB.
> >> I have a good feeling that you have cursed in front of your kids at
> >> some point.
> >> If not you, then someone close to you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OBRA mailing list
> >> obra@list.obra.org
> >> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> >> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > obra@list.obra.org
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>


Ron Frerichs

2009-01-27

So, what you're saying is...since we can't prevent them from being exposed to all kinds of bad behavior by other people, we don't have a responsibility to set a good example in our own behavior?

Wow...that really takes a lot of pressure off...thanks.
> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:29:45 -0800> From: traderindeath82@yahoo.com> To: obra@list.obra.org> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Dear mister asshole> > it's funny, i went to pick someone up from their highschool the other day, and as i was standing there waiting for him watching and catching bits of conversation of the kids passing by, almost every kid that passed said a curse word. so to try and keep them from reading one word that isn't even the worst of them all and was kept in context, you might as well put your kid in a bubble, homeschool them, only allow them to go to church organized events, and have every channel on your television blocked except for OPB. > I have a good feeling that you have cursed in front of your kids at some point. If not you, then someone close to you. > > > > > _______________________________________________> OBRA mailing list> obra@list.obra.org> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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