Joe Cipale
As I said earlier... yet another CF brought upon us be legislators who are utterly clueless.
david baker wrote:
> It could be tough on tourism if people are getting pulled over for not having plates/tags only to find out they are here on vacation coming from a state that does not require registration for bicycles.
> I go to Tahoe regularly, if I was getting pulled over down there for no tags/plates I would be very mad. Then maybe I would have to get California tags for $54.00 for visiting once a year at most. Actually you probably could not get tags because you are not a resident, so they would need tourist tags.
> Maybe the whole thing is more like fishing. You have resident and non-resident licenses, but that is for the person, not the pole. So maybe they should be trying to license people rather than bikes, and it could be an add-on to your drivers license so there is not much extra beurocracy.
> Kids would still be exempt because they do not need licenses.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: G Magnus
> To: joec@aracnet.com
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] HB 3008 enforceability
>
>
> It would be easily enforced. Though as I am sure that the reg sticker would be too small to read like a vehicles license plate the North Plains Police Chief would have to find another reason to stop the cyclist first. However I am sure he would come up with a creative means to induce a stop...he does now.
>
> This type of legislation has been introduced before, last time I remember it was in the 2002-2003 legislative year, it never made it out of committee. I would hope the same goes for it again this time. I do recall when I emailed the legislator back then about how lame the bill was, his response was something to the effect of wanting to create funds for more bike paths blah blah. Whatever the folks that created this bills goal was it doesn't bode well for anyone that depends on or enjoys the use of a bicycle.
>
> Write your Senator and Representative make your voice heard, don't expect somone to do it for you.
>
> Gregg
>
>
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] HB 3008 (license bicycles)
> > From: joec@aracnet.com
> > To: greggm00@hotmail.com
> > CC: obra@list.obra.org
> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:13:03 -0700
> >
> > Well Gregg,
> >
> > What is your take on the enforceability if this piece of toilet paper
> > emanating from the Oregon House?
> >
> > Joe C.
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 15:08 -0700, G Magnus wrote:
> > > Just fyi
> > >
> > > 801.305 ?Highway.? (1) ?Highway? means every public way, road, street,
> > > thoroughfare and place, including bridges, viaducts and other
> > > structures within the boundaries of this state, open, used or intended
> > > for use of the general public for vehicles or vehicular traffic as a
> > > matter of right.
> > >
> > >
> > > (2) For the purpose of enforcing traffic offenses contained in
> > > the Oregon Vehicle Code, except for ORS 810.230, ?highway? includes
> > > premises open to the public that are owned by a homeowners association
> > > and whose boundaries are contained within a service district
> > > established on or before July 1, 2002, under ORS 451.410 to 451.610.
> > > [1983 c.338 ?51; 2007 c.561 ?1]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A highway is any public street that traffic laws can be enforced.
> > >
> > > Gregg
> > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________________________________________________
> > > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:05:46 -0700
> > > To: mountainbikepros@msn.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > > From: andys@fseee.org
> > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] HB 3008 (license bicycles)
> > >
> > > HB 3008 requires registration only for bicycles ridden on state
> > > highways. Bikes ridden in towns on city-owned roads would not need to
> > > be licensed, nor would mountain bikes ridden only off-road. However,
> > > many roads that appear to be city-owned are, in fact, state highways.
> > > On this basis alone the bill is unworkable.
> > >
> > > At 01:59 PM 3/11/2009, Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team wrote:
> > > My question is, would I have to register all 10 bikes in my
> > > house hold? My 5 mountain bikes (3 mine and 1 wife and 1 son)
> > > Only one of those even sees the pavement (the one I ride to
> > > work). The others I drive to the dirt then ride. I guess you
> > > could say but I drive my car to where I am going to ride. But
> > > I already pay for that. Who do we need to call to make a stink
> > > with?
> > >
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