Dave Bisers
2009-03-13
In the farmlands of Ohio I have sucessfully used a corn husk as a boot.
Rube Goldberg tire fixes!!! A survey in three parts
john
2009-03-13
There's questionable, then there is practical and being frugal.
The dent was in the top tube. Big difference. If one were serious about
being concerned, be way more concerned of the weld into the downtube of the
waterbottle bosses or the downtube shifters. The chance of crack growing
from those and catastrophic failure are much higher then a dent in a top
tube failing. In a bike race, I would be much more worried about people who
push big gears and don't relax upper body, or a broke-in chain that jumps on
a non-broke-in new cassette on race wheel, etc, etc, etc..
If you dropped big $$ on a tire and its still almost new and has a minor
casing cut in the sidewall, a few stitches with fishing line, dental floss,
etc cover with duct tape or patch, is a permanent and safe fix. If its in
the tread part (yes opposite of car tire..) or if its too big, still has a
big bulge after fix, then it's a training tire or...
But yes also being practical is knowing when to get a big scissors or
tinsnips, turn your head, and quickly cut through the tire straight across,
now there is no doubt.
2009/3/13 Chris Alling
> I wish that the stories of very questionable bike maintenance would stop.
> I am lining up next to all of you in races and I would rather keep my head
> in the sand with regard to these things. I do not want to know about tires
> fixed with yogurt containers, dental floss and silicone, bikes with big
> dents in the down tubes that reputabled bike shops have deemed unrideable.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:54:11 -0700
> From: kevin97116@yahoo.com
> To: djhormann@verizon.net
> CC: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rube Goldberg tire fixes!!! A survey in three
> parts
>
>
> My buddy used a strip torn from a DQ Blizzard cup found along the
> roadside to make a boot for his badly cut tire. Probably rode nearly 50
> miles on it.
>
> Since it was him he did it and not me if this wins, give the well aged
> powerbar!
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> What is happening in Kevin's corner of the bike world?
> http://the-whir-of-spokes-in-air.blogspot.com
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> --- On *Thu, 3/12/09, Doug Hormann * wrote:
>
>
> From: Doug Hormann
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rube Goldberg tire fixes!!! A survey in three parts
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 9:44 PM
>
> Okay, I hear a survey/contest coming on....
>
> Here's the prize question for everyone in OBRA land:
>
> Question: What have you used to fix a flat on the trail or road?
>
> (Qualifier #1) It has to have actually worked.....
> (Qualifier #2) It can't be a product designed for the purpose.
>
> Prize: A power bar that's been in my tool box for the last year to the
> person with the best answer as decided by our panel of judges...okay, its
> just me, but no whiners if you lose.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Southwest Bicycle [mailto:dan@bicyclerepairman.us
> ]
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:32 PM
> To: Doug Hormann; mike.murray@obra.org;
> obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
>
>
> Mylar Power bar wrapper too.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Hormann"
> >
> To: >; <
> obra@list.obra.org >
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
>
>
> > This doesn't answer the question of a permanent fix, but a dollar bill
> > also
> > makes a great temporary sidewall repair. Like Mike with his Tyvek, I
> > usually
> > keep a couple of bucks in my seat pack for an emergency latte:). The
> high
> > rag content paper seems to make it work and keeps it from disintegrating
> > if
> > it gets damp. I learned the trick years ago from a wise old mechanic and
> > have used it more than once to get home. As long as the cut isn't huge,
> > nearly anything that has a bit of stiffness too it will work. My son
> tore
> > a
> > sidewall on his mountain bike right before the start of a race up at
> > Skibowl. Not having a spare tire, I fixed it with the dollar bill trick
> > and
> > he completed the race without a hitch. (I'll have to try the tyvek
> though,
> > I
> > hadn't thought of that one.)
> >
> > Doug Hormann
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org[mailto:
> obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ]On
> > Behalf Of Mike Murray
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:16 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
> >
> >
> > Gluing some Tyvek from an old race number or envelope will fix this for a
> > while. In fact, I always keep a piece of Tyvek in my spare bag so I can
> > use
> > it to make a temporary boot in case I get a casing cut out on the road.
> > In
> > this case no glue is used. You can also make a boot for this using a
> > piece
> > of an old tire. A tubular tire segment will work well. Regardless, only
> > use this for training tires and not for racing. Don't use a tire
> repaired
> > this way to take turns where a sudden flat will injure someone else.
> >
> > Mike Murray
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org[mailto:
> obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Troy Sexton
> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 20:01 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
> >
> >
> > Anybody have some tips for repairing a slice in the sidewall of a
> > clincher tire? I sliced it open falling off my rollers the other day,
> > and the tire is nearly new. The tube bulges out of the slice, even
> > with a standard tire patch over the hole on the inside.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Troy
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Chris Alling
2009-03-13
I wish that the stories of very questionable bike maintenance would stop. I am lining up next to all of you in races and I would rather keep my head in the sand with regard to these things. I do not want to know about tires fixed with yogurt containers, dental floss and silicone, bikes with big dents in the down tubes that reputabled bike shops have deemed unrideable.
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:54:11 -0700
From: kevin97116@yahoo.com
To: djhormann@verizon.net
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Rube Goldberg tire fixes!!! A survey in three parts
My buddy used a strip torn from a DQ Blizzard cup found along the roadside to make a boot for his badly cut tire. Probably rode nearly 50 miles on it.
Since it was him he did it and not me if this wins, give the well aged powerbar!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What is happening in Kevin's corner of the bike world?
http://the-whir-of-spokes-in-air.blogspot.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Doug Hormann wrote:
From: Doug Hormann
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rube Goldberg tire fixes!!! A survey in three parts
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 9:44 PM
Okay, I hear a survey/contest coming on....
Here's the prize question for everyone in OBRA land:
Question: What have you used to fix a flat on the trail or road?
(Qualifier #1) It has to have actually worked.....
(Qualifier #2) It can't be a product designed for the purpose.
Prize: A power bar that's been in my tool box for the last year to the
person with the best answer as decided by our panel of judges...okay, its
just me, but no whiners if you lose.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Southwest Bicycle [mailto:dan@bicyclerepairman.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:32 PM
To: Doug Hormann; mike.murray@obra.org; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
Mylar Power bar wrapper too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Hormann"
To: ;
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
> This doesn't answer the question of a permanent fix, but a dollar bill
> also
> makes a great temporary sidewall repair. Like Mike with his Tyvek, I
> usually
> keep a couple of bucks in my seat pack for an emergency latte:). The high
> rag content paper seems to make it work and keeps it from disintegrating
> if
> it gets damp. I learned the trick years ago from a wise old mechanic and
> have used it more than once to get home. As long as the cut isn't huge,
> nearly anything that has a bit of stiffness too it will work. My son tore
> a
> sidewall on his mountain bike right before the start of a race up at
> Skibowl. Not having a spare tire, I fixed it with the dollar bill trick
> and
> he completed the race without a hitch. (I'll have to try the tyvek though,
> I
> hadn't thought of that one.)
>
> Doug Hormann
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
> Behalf Of Mike Murray
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:16 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
>
>
> Gluing some Tyvek from an old race number or envelope will fix this for a
> while. In fact, I always keep a piece of Tyvek in my spare bag so I can
> use
> it to make a temporary boot in case I get a casing cut out on the road.
> In
> this case no glue is used. You can also make a boot for this using a
> piece
> of an old tire. A tubular tire segment will work well. Regardless, only
> use this for training tires and not for racing. Don't use a tire repaired
> this way to take turns where a sudden flat will injure someone else.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Troy Sexton
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 20:01 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
>
>
> Anybody have some tips for repairing a slice in the sidewall of a
> clincher tire? I sliced it open falling off my rollers the other day,
> and the tire is nearly new. The tube bulges out of the slice, even
> with a standard tire patch over the hole on the inside.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Troy
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2009-03-13
My buddy used a strip torn from a DQ Blizzard cup found along the roadside to make a boot for his badly cut tire. Probably rode nearly 50 miles on it.
Since it was him he did it and not me if this wins, give the well aged powerbar!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What is happening in Kevin's corner of the bike world?
http://the-whir-of-spokes-in-air.blogspot.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Doug Hormann wrote:
From: Doug Hormann
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rube Goldberg tire fixes!!! A survey in three parts
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 9:44 PM
Okay, I hear a survey/contest coming on....
Here's the prize question for everyone in OBRA land:
Question: What have you used to fix a flat on the trail or road?
(Qualifier #1) It has to have actually worked.....
(Qualifier #2) It can't be a product designed for the purpose.
Prize: A power bar that's been in my tool box for the last year to the
person with the best answer as decided by our panel of judges...okay, its
just me, but no whiners if you lose.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Southwest Bicycle [mailto:dan@bicyclerepairman.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:32 PM
To: Doug Hormann; mike.murray@obra.org; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
Mylar Power bar wrapper too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Hormann"
To: ;
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
> This doesn't answer the question of a permanent fix, but a dollar bill
> also
> makes a great temporary sidewall repair. Like Mike with his Tyvek, I
> usually
> keep a couple of bucks in my seat pack for an emergency latte:). The high
> rag content paper seems to make it work and keeps it from disintegrating
> if
> it gets damp. I learned the trick years ago from a wise old mechanic and
> have used it more than once to get home. As long as the cut isn't huge,
> nearly anything that has a bit of stiffness too it will work. My son tore
> a
> sidewall on his mountain bike right before the start of a race up at
> Skibowl. Not having a spare tire, I fixed it with the dollar bill trick
> and
> he completed the race without a hitch. (I'll have to try the tyvek though,
> I
> hadn't thought of that one.)
>
> Doug Hormann
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
> Behalf Of Mike Murray
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:16 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
>
>
> Gluing some Tyvek from an old race number or envelope will fix this for a
> while. In fact, I always keep a piece of Tyvek in my spare bag so I can
> use
> it to make a temporary boot in case I get a casing cut out on the road.
> In
> this case no glue is used. You can also make a boot for this using a
> piece
> of an old tire. A tubular tire segment will work well. Regardless, only
> use this for training tires and not for racing. Don't use a tire repaired
> this way to take turns where a sudden flat will injure someone else.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Troy Sexton
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 20:01 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
>
>
> Anybody have some tips for repairing a slice in the sidewall of a
> clincher tire? I sliced it open falling off my rollers the other day,
> and the tire is nearly new. The tube bulges out of the slice, even
> with a standard tire patch over the hole on the inside.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Troy
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Doug Hormann
2009-03-12
Okay, I hear a survey/contest coming on....
Here's the prize question for everyone in OBRA land:
Question: What have you used to fix a flat on the trail or road?
(Qualifier #1) It has to have actually worked.....
(Qualifier #2) It can't be a product designed for the purpose.
Prize: A power bar that's been in my tool box for the last year to the
person with the best answer as decided by our panel of judges...okay, its
just me, but no whiners if you lose.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Southwest Bicycle [mailto:dan@bicyclerepairman.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:32 PM
To: Doug Hormann; mike.murray@obra.org; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
Mylar Power bar wrapper too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Hormann"
To: ;
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
> This doesn't answer the question of a permanent fix, but a dollar bill
> also
> makes a great temporary sidewall repair. Like Mike with his Tyvek, I
> usually
> keep a couple of bucks in my seat pack for an emergency latte:). The high
> rag content paper seems to make it work and keeps it from disintegrating
> if
> it gets damp. I learned the trick years ago from a wise old mechanic and
> have used it more than once to get home. As long as the cut isn't huge,
> nearly anything that has a bit of stiffness too it will work. My son tore
> a
> sidewall on his mountain bike right before the start of a race up at
> Skibowl. Not having a spare tire, I fixed it with the dollar bill trick
> and
> he completed the race without a hitch. (I'll have to try the tyvek though,
> I
> hadn't thought of that one.)
>
> Doug Hormann
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
> Behalf Of Mike Murray
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:16 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
>
>
> Gluing some Tyvek from an old race number or envelope will fix this for a
> while. In fact, I always keep a piece of Tyvek in my spare bag so I can
> use
> it to make a temporary boot in case I get a casing cut out on the road.
> In
> this case no glue is used. You can also make a boot for this using a
> piece
> of an old tire. A tubular tire segment will work well. Regardless, only
> use this for training tires and not for racing. Don't use a tire repaired
> this way to take turns where a sudden flat will injure someone else.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Troy Sexton
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 20:01 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fixing tire sidewall damage?
>
>
> Anybody have some tips for repairing a slice in the sidewall of a
> clincher tire? I sliced it open falling off my rollers the other day,
> and the tire is nearly new. The tube bulges out of the slice, even
> with a standard tire patch over the hole on the inside.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Troy
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
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