Wes S

My name is Wes Stein, a member of the Hammer/ CMG Racing Team. I am the rider who removed his jacket during the Banana Belt Cat. 1/2 race. First I want to apologize to anyone who may have suffered any damages as a result of the crash. I tried to remove the jacket as safely as possible by moving away from the pack toward the left side of the road before shedding my garments. However in the process of removing the jacket someone came up from behind me to pass and clipped my handlebars. This caused me to lose control of my bike and crash which also caused several riders to fall.

I recognize that I am at fault for making a poor decision on where and when to remove my wind vest and regret the consequence. Again I apologize to all who were affected by my actions.

Long, Steve

Why not just put the vest on under your jersey? Just unzip a little for more ventilation.

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:15 PM
To: Jake
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] BB 4 cat 1/2 crash

Having almost been the victim of said crash (save for an amazing move by Mr. Marcroft), I heartily agree. There's something wrong visually with a bike sans rider careening a couple feet in the air heading toward you.

Something similar caused the accident at Piece of Cake last year.

This type of behavior is inexcusable in any field, and especially in the 1/2's.

If you are going to remove clothing, do it at least 2 laps before (not in the middle of the field)

That said, best wishes to the rider for a quick recovery.

k-

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Jake wrote:
> Although thankfully I was not involved, I did see the crash. It was about 5 miles from the finish line, and it  happened because someone felt the need to strip their wind vest while in the middle of the group. It got hung up in the front wheel and the dude went down taking what sounded like 5 or 6 more with him. Kim Kirchen style. No numbers pinned on it is my guess as to why it had to come off that close to the finish. Even if I am completely wrong about the events, no matter.
>
> Stripping clothes while in the middle of the group happened enough today that the following rant still applies.
>
> DO NOT strip your s#*t in the middle of the group mother effer. GO TO THE BACK. If that wont work because you absolutely must set up your team leader for the win then wear it.
>
> DO NOT risk the lives of everyone behind you because you think that vest can't make it another second on your back, or because you didn't want to pay for another set of numbers. I have no idea how much they cost, but certainly they are cheeper than any part on your bike that would get destroyed in the crash.
>
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Jake wrote:
> Although thankfully I was not involved, I did see the crash. It was about 5 miles from the finish line, and it happened because someone felt the need to strip their wind vest while in the middle of the group. It got hung up in the front wheel and the dude went down taking what sounded like 5 or 6 more with him. Kim Kirchen style. No numbers pinned on it is my guess as to why it had to come off that close to the finish. Even if I am completely wrong about the events, no matter.
>
> Stripping clothes while in the middle of the group happened enough today that the following rant still applies.
>
> DO NOT strip your s#*t in the middle of the group mother effer. GO TO THE BACK. If that wont work because you absolutely must set up your team leader for the win then wear it.
>
> DO NOT risk the lives of everyone behind you because you think that vest can't make it another second on your back, or because you didn't want to pay for another set of numbers. I have no idea how much they cost, but certainly they are cheeper than any part on your bike that would get destroyed in the crash.
>
> Jake
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David Auker

As far as I know, there has only been one rider that took off ALL his
clothes, with a subsequent win (PIR)...
.
-David

T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
> Having almost been the victim of said crash (save for an amazing move
> by Mr. Marcroft), I heartily agree. There's something wrong visually
> with a bike sans rider careening a couple feet in the air heading
> toward you.
>
> Something similar caused the accident at Piece of Cake last year.
>
> This type of behavior is inexcusable in any field, and especially in
> the 1/2's.
>
> If you are going to remove clothing, do it at least 2 laps before (not
> in the middle of the field)
>
> That said, best wishes to the rider for a quick recovery.
>
> k-
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Jake wrote:
>> Although thankfully I was not involved, I did see the crash. It was
about 5 miles from the finish line, and it happened because someone
felt the need to strip their wind vest while in the middle of the group.
It got hung up in the front wheel and the dude went down taking what
sounded like 5 or 6 more with him. Kim Kirchen style. No numbers pinned
on it is my guess as to why it had to come off that close to the finish.
Even if I am completely wrong about the events, no matter.
>>
>> Stripping clothes while in the middle of the group happened enough
today that the following rant still applies.
>>
>> DO NOT strip your s#*t in the middle of the group mother effer. GO
TO THE BACK. If that wont work because you absolutely must set up your
team leader for the win then wear it.
>>
>> DO NOT risk the lives of everyone behind you because you think that
vest can't make it another second on your back, or because you didn't
want to pay for another set of numbers. I have no idea how much they
cost, but certainly they are cheeper than any part on your bike that
would get destroyed in the crash.
>>
>> Jake
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T. Kenji Sugahara

Having almost been the victim of said crash (save for an amazing move
by Mr. Marcroft), I heartily agree. There's something wrong visually
with a bike sans rider careening a couple feet in the air heading
toward you.

Something similar caused the accident at Piece of Cake last year.

This type of behavior is inexcusable in any field, and especially in
the 1/2's.

If you are going to remove clothing, do it at least 2 laps before (not
in the middle of the field)

That said, best wishes to the rider for a quick recovery.

k-

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Jake wrote:
> Although thankfully I was not involved, I did see the crash. It was about 5 miles from the finish line, and it  happened because someone felt the need to strip their wind vest while in the middle of the group. It got hung up in the front wheel and the dude went down taking what sounded like 5 or 6 more with him. Kim Kirchen style. No numbers pinned on it is my guess as to why it had to come off that close to the finish. Even if I am completely wrong about the events, no matter.
>
> Stripping clothes while in the middle of the group happened enough today that the following rant still applies.
>
> DO NOT strip your s#*t in the middle of the group mother effer. GO TO THE BACK. If that wont work because you absolutely must set up your team leader for the win then wear it.
>
> DO NOT risk the lives of everyone behind you because you think that vest can't make it another second on your back, or because you didn't want to pay for another set of numbers. I have no idea how much they cost, but certainly they are cheeper than any part on your bike that would get destroyed in the crash.
>
> Jake
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Saul Lopez

Agree with doing this AT the back of the pack! Safer for everyone involved.

--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Jake wrote:

> From: Jake
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] BB 4 cat 1/2 crash
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:14 PM
> Although thankfully I was not involved, I did see the crash.
> It was about 5 miles from the finish line, and it happened
> because someone felt the need to strip their wind vest while
> in the middle of the group. It got hung up in the front
> wheel and the dude went down taking what sounded like 5 or 6
> more with him. Kim Kirchen style. No numbers pinned on it is
> my guess as to why it had to come off that close to the
> finish. Even if I am completely wrong about the events, no
> matter.
>
> Stripping clothes while in the middle of the group happened
> enough today that the following rant still applies.
>
> DO NOT strip your s#*t in the middle of the group mother
> effer. GO TO THE BACK. If that wont work because you
> absolutely must set up your team leader for the win then
> wear it.
>
> DO NOT risk the lives of everyone behind you because you
> think that vest can't make it another second on your
> back, or because you didn't want to pay for another set
> of numbers. I have no idea how much they cost, but certainly
> they are cheeper than any part on your bike that would get
> destroyed in the crash.
>
> Jake
> _______________________________________________
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Jake

Although thankfully I was not involved, I did see the crash. It was about 5 miles from the finish line, and it happened because someone felt the need to strip their wind vest while in the middle of the group. It got hung up in the front wheel and the dude went down taking what sounded like 5 or 6 more with him. Kim Kirchen style. No numbers pinned on it is my guess as to why it had to come off that close to the finish. Even if I am completely wrong about the events, no matter.

Stripping clothes while in the middle of the group happened enough today that the following rant still applies.

DO NOT strip your s#*t in the middle of the group mother effer. GO TO THE BACK. If that wont work because you absolutely must set up your team leader for the win then wear it.

DO NOT risk the lives of everyone behind you because you think that vest can't make it another second on your back, or because you didn't want to pay for another set of numbers. I have no idea how much they cost, but certainly they are cheeper than any part on your bike that would get destroyed in the crash.

Jake