Michael O'Hair

Keep in mind that things are cyclic. Countries, industries, whatever, they all go through a life cycle. There will always be "off-shoots" from a end-of-cycle organism ( local example: Tektronix. Count the number of companies that were formed from that "fallen tree.") Trace the technology Cannondale used and where the designers and builders came from and went. Frame builders today have an incredible wealth of technology and "builder's lore" (to coin a phrase). That includes both the "mega-manufacturers" and the "boutique builders."

All you can do is to vote with your pocketbook. If you don't like the new product, buy something else. It would be good to send the parent corporation a note explaining your choice. Maybe they'll listen. Maybe they won't.

Me, I'm going for a ride.

Luciano bailey

I did not by any means want to understate the importantance of the Global economy only to reference the evident lack of put your money where your mouth is action. Any of you lucky enough to have attended the builders event at east bank last year may have left with the same sense of local pride. Well pride is not going to put food on the table of any of the vendors who came away with less than expected $$ interest. We are a unique city and our plan going forward should be equally unique, lets see how many times we can pass the same dollar around town before we send it abroad.

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:44:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas
From: phreadi@gmail.com
To: rideon1@hotmail.com
CC: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org

Santa Cruz mountain bikes still makes about half their frames, and anodizes them, in portland. I realize their production isn't to scale with Giant/Cannondale/etc.

We live in a global economy and the US Quality Of Life™ is built on the backs of cheap overseas labor.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Luciano bailey wrote:

We in Portland instead of thinking about Cannondale sorry dealers, should feel blessed that amongst our many claims to fame have some of the best indi fab builders around. I would rather see more folks showing up on local customs than to let dollars escape the PDX zips. I am sure guys like Dave Levy (TYCYCLES great builder) would love a few more team orders in the fall to make it through the winter. My point there is a natural reaction to worry about the global over the local in these times and living here I find that a waste of energy.

To: obra@list.obra.org

From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:22:52 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101

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Santa Cruz mountain bikes still makes about half their frames, and anodizes
them, in portland. I realize their production isn't to scale with
Giant/Cannondale/etc.
We live in a global economy and the US Quality Of Life™ is built on the
backs of cheap overseas labor.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Luciano bailey wrote:

> We in Portland instead of thinking about Cannondale sorry dealers, should
> feel blessed that amongst our many claims to fame have some of the best indi
> fab builders around. I would rather see more folks showing up on local
> customs than to let dollars escape the PDX zips. I am sure guys like Dave
> Levy (TYCYCLES great builder) would love a few more team orders in the fall
> to make it through the winter. My point there is a natural reaction
> to worry about the global over the local in these times and living here I
> find that a waste of energy.
>
> ------------------------------
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:22:52 -0700
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas
>
>
> Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and
> will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its
> Taichung, Taiwan facility.
> I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop
> ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just
> too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.
>
> Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic
> tank.
>
> I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my
> bikes for that.
>
> Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely
> NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself
> in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly
> for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for
> Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.
>
> Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.
>
> Go read the full story here:
>
>
> http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101
>
> * * *
> My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"
>
> http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com
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We in Portland instead of thinking about Cannondale sorry dealers, should feel blessed that amongst our many claims to fame have some of the best indi fab builders around. I would rather see more folks showing up on local customs than to let dollars escape the PDX zips. I am sure guys like Dave Levy (TYCYCLES great builder) would love a few more team orders in the fall to make it through the winter. My point there is a natural reaction to worry about the global over the local in these times and living here I find that a waste of energy.

To: obra@list.obra.org
From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:22:52 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101

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Amen!
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Johnson
To: Randy Dreiling
Cc: obra@list.obra.org ; Ken Finch
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

My Mom used to ask me, "if everyone else is jumping off a bridge would you go and jump too?" Her point of course was just because "everyone" is doing it doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.

Very few of us have non-exportable jobs. The ones that are left are not always exactly what we would like to be doing. Consider that when you open your wallet. You are sending money somewhere, supporting someone, supporting their government. Is that person an American like you? Is their country more important to you than the one you live in? Do you understand that that flow of money adds up to serious economic - and often military - power? Do you even think about it?
Do you even care?

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

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-- Benjamin Franklin

Randy Dreiling wrote:
Ken is 100% correct...why the Cannondale bashing when everyone else is already over there...if anything people should be grateful they stayed in the USA this long...most other companies went over the years ago.

>From what I understand they are NOT going to be making Wally World and Target bikes, but still make good bikes like they have for years.

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: Ken Finch
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 3:48:58 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Not to defend or deride the move over seas but how is this going to make Cannondale any worse then all the other brands already made over there including such 'Italian" stalwarts such as Colnago etc? Let's face it, Taiwan is quickly becoming the world center of bicycle production, much of it of excellent quality. Name a single major bike brand still made state side, except for Trek. And I believe that’s just their carbon models.
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That's right, Randy. And whether anybody here wants to realize it or not, most of the world's high-end bicycle frames have been made in Taiwan for over a decade now. Taiwanese production facilities use good labor practices and actually pay their workers quite well. They are also extremely meticulous and consistent in their production quality, so why shouldn't they get the production contracts?

Many of you who complain about Dorel's recent decision are the very same people who bargain hunt for best possible deal, making it impossible to cover the cost of employing American framebuilders.

Trek owners, lower thy noses. I've worked for multiple Trek dealers over the past 12 years (including a concept store) and peeling off "made in Taiwan" labels was standard practice in all of them. Like it or not, if you've bought a new bike from a North American company in the last 10 years that wasn't a Cannondale or an independant custom builder, then you've bought a bike made in Taiwan - and you loved it. So come down from your ivory tower and get over it.

-Erik

> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:02:23 -0700
> From: raggy23@yahoo.com
> To: kj_finch@yahoo.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas
>
>
> Ken is 100% correct...why the Cannondale bashing when everyone else is already over there...if anything people should be grateful they stayed in the USA this long...most other companies went over the years ago.
>
> From what I understand they are NOT going to be making Wally World and Target bikes, but still make good bikes like they have for years.
>
>
>
> Randy Dreiling
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ken Finch
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 3:48:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas
>
> Not to defend or deride the move over seas but how is this going to make Cannondale any worse then all the other brands already made over there including such 'Italian" stalwarts such as Colnago etc? Let's face it, Taiwan is quickly becoming the world center of bicycle production, much of it of excellent quality. Name a single major bike brand still made state side, except for Trek. And I believe that’s just their carbon models.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Finch"
To:
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

> Not to defend or deride the move over seas but how is this going to make
> Cannondale any worse then all the other brands already made over there
> including such 'Italian" stalwarts such as Colnago etc? Let's face it,
> Taiwan is quickly becoming the world center of bicycle production, much of
> it of excellent quality. Name a single major bike brand still made state
> side, except for Trek. And I believe that’s just their carbon models.
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Erik Voldengen

If Cannondale were to stick with Aluminum bikes, perhaps they wouldn't
have moved. But everyone wants CF now, and Taiwan is where it's at
for CF Bike production.

Rick Johnson

My Mom used to ask me, "if everyone else is jumping off a bridge would
you go and jump too?" Her point of course was just because "everyone"
is doing it doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.



Very few of us have non-exportable jobs. The ones that are left are not
always exactly what we would like to be doing. Consider that when you
open your wallet. You are sending money somewhere, supporting someone,
supporting their government. Is that person an American like you? Is
their country more important to you than the one you live in? Do you
understand that that flow of money adds up to serious economic - and
often military - power? Do you even think about it?

Do you even care?

Rick Johnson

Bend, Oregon

"We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

  --  Benjamin Franklin

Ken is 100% correct...why the Cannondale bashing when everyone else is already over there...if anything people should be grateful they stayed in the USA this long...most other companies went over the years ago.

>From what I understand they are NOT going to be making Wally World and Target bikes, but still make good bikes like they have for years.

 Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----

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To: obra@list.obra.org

Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 3:48:58 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Not to defend or deride the move over seas but how is this going to make Cannondale any worse then all the other brands already made over there including such 'Italian" stalwarts such as Colnago etc? Let's face it, Taiwan is quickly becoming the world center of bicycle production, much of it of excellent quality. Name a single major bike brand still made state side, except for Trek. And I believe that’s just their carbon models.

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Ken is 100% correct...why the Cannondale bashing when everyone else is already over there...if anything people should be grateful they stayed in the USA this long...most other companies went over the years ago.

From what I understand they are NOT going to be making Wally World and Target bikes, but still make good bikes like they have for years.

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
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To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 3:48:58 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Not to defend or deride the move over seas but how is this going to make Cannondale any worse then all the other brands already made over there including such 'Italian" stalwarts such as Colnago etc? Let's face it, Taiwan is quickly becoming the world center of bicycle production, much of it of excellent quality. Name a single major bike brand still made state side, except for Trek. And I believe that’s just their carbon models.
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Dont disagree with the quality, I ride the King of Tiawan ( Giant ) but they started in Taiwan. Again american jobs lost overseas, since there going there prices are going to have to fall in line with the other bikes of same quality coming into the states.

Thanks

Mike Stockton
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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:48:58 -0700
> From: kj_finch@yahoo.com
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas
>
> Not to defend or deride the move over seas but how is this going to make Cannondale any worse then all the other brands already made over there including such 'Italian" stalwarts such as Colnago etc? Let's face it, Taiwan is quickly becoming the world center of bicycle production, much of it of excellent quality. Name a single major bike brand still made state side, except for Trek. And I believe that’s just their carbon models.
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Not to defend or deride the move over seas but how is this going to make Cannondale any worse then all the other brands already made over there including such 'Italian" stalwarts such as Colnago etc? Let's face it, Taiwan is quickly becoming the world center of bicycle production, much of it of excellent quality. Name a single major bike brand still made state side, except for Trek. And I believe that’s just their carbon models.

Brady Brady

R.I.P., C-dale.

:(

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of lisa graham
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:45 PM
To: mikestockton14@msn.com; chood1@comcast.net
Cc: obra@list.obra.org; brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

oh yeah, you'll be able to buy them at low, low, Performance prices! I can hear the sound of Cannondale going down the tubes.......cant you?
lisa
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h
p i
u l
Me after a long ride ^^ l

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:32:58 -0700
CC: obra@list.obra.org; brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Only making the comparison of another american based company heading overseas! Just hope Toy's R Us and Target are able to keep these tings in stock, it will give me a reason to shop with the wife when she goes to Traget[http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_regular.gif]

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:59:08 +0000
From: chood1@comcast.net
To: mikestockton14@msn.com
CC: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas
That's not really a good comparison. We were talking about an overseas move making a product worse. Moving Harley overseas could only make it better.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "brian p johnson" , obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 1:47:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Whats next Harley Davidson!!!!!

Thanks

Mike Stockton
971-239-8000

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To: obra@list.obra.org
From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:22:52 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101
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lisa graham

oh yeah, you'll be able to buy them at low, low, Performance prices! I can hear the sound of Cannondale going down the tubes.......cant you?
lisa

h

p i

u l

Me after a long ride ^^ l

From: mikestockton14@msn.com
To: chood1@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:32:58 -0700
CC: obra@list.obra.org; brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Only making the comparison of another american based company heading overseas! Just hope Toy's R Us and Target are able to keep these tings in stock, it will give me a reason to shop with the wife when she goes to Traget

Thanks

Mike Stockton
971-239-8000

Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:59:08 +0000
From: chood1@comcast.net
To: mikestockton14@msn.com
CC: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

That's not really a good comparison. We were talking about an overseas move making a product worse. Moving Harley overseas could only make it better.

----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE STOCKTON"
To: "brian p johnson" , obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 1:47:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Whats next Harley Davidson!!!!!

Thanks

Mike Stockton
971-239-8000

To: obra@list.obra.org
From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:22:52 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101

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MIKE STOCKTON

Only making the comparison of another american based company heading overseas! Just hope Toy's R Us and Target are able to keep these tings in stock, it will give me a reason to shop with the wife when she goes to Traget

Thanks

Mike Stockton
971-239-8000

Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:59:08 +0000
From: chood1@comcast.net
To: mikestockton14@msn.com
CC: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

That's not really a good comparison. We were talking about an overseas move making a product worse. Moving Harley overseas could only make it better.

----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE STOCKTON"
To: "brian p johnson" , obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 1:47:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Whats next Harley Davidson!!!!!

Thanks

Mike Stockton
971-239-8000

To: obra@list.obra.org
From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:22:52 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101

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think how much cheaper they will be!!!

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From: Brian Johnson
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 1:22:52 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101

* * *
My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"

http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com

Rick Johnson

This is very disappointing - though not unexpected - news. This morning
I sent them my letter of complaint mentioning much of your same points.

Rick Johnson

Bend, Oregon

"I don't have any Taiwanese friends out of work - but I do have American ones"

  --  Rick C Johnson

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of
excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's
manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this
bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?!
Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just
went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the
septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and
loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has
absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale
really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the
Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much
the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way
they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101

* * *

My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"

http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com

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chood1@comcast.net

That's not really a good comparison. We were talking about an overseas move making a product worse. Moving Harley overseas could only make it better.

----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE STOCKTON"
To: "brian p johnson" , obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 1:47:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Whats next Harley Davidson!!!!!

Thanks

Mike Stockton
971-239-8000

To: obra@list.obra.org
From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:22:52 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101

* * *
My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"

http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com

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MIKE STOCKTON

Whats next Harley Davidson!!!!!

Thanks

Mike Stockton
971-239-8000

To: obra@list.obra.org
From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:22:52 -0700
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale to move all production overseas

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence" and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really? That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-production-facilities-21101

* * *
My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"

http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com

Brian Johnson

Dorel is busy consolidating its bike biz into "centres of excellence"
and will be moving 100 percent of Cannondale's manufacturing
oversease to its Taichung, Taiwan facility.

I can't say that I'm really surprised. I was waiting for this bomb to
drop ever since Dorel bought up Cannondale. (C'mon, Dorel?! Really?
That was just too much.) To me, Cannondale's brand value just went
into the toilet.

Now it's been completely flushed and is rapidly degrading in the
septic tank.

I bought three Cannondale bike BECAUSE of how they were made and
loved my bikes for that.

Dorel -- I don't care how much money they make every year -- has
absolutely NO IDEA how to deal with brand equity. yeah, Cannondale
really shot itself in the foot by making motorcycles under the
Cannondale flag and paid dearly for that. I mean that was pretty much
the beginning of the end for Cannondale, but it didn't change the way
they made their bikes.

Goodbye Cannondale. It's been a fun ride.

Go read the full story here:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/cannondale-closing-us-
production-facilities-21101

* * *
My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"

http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com