joe cipale

Well said, Ron!

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 16:52 -0700, Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote:
> This is not just about cycling so do not read if you only want to
> consider carbon fiber, powdercoat specialists etc.
>
> As long as drugs are available, humans will use them. They will use
> them to enhance physical performance, perceived social performance
> (beer/pot), and various other uses. I think having rules in place to
> keep a playing field level for each person is good, same as rules
> to minimize use of meth, heroin etc. as these in the end help protect
> members of society. Every person makes the choice about using drugs,
> supplements, etc. (legal or not) almost every day. They do this with
> the rules in place. I do not care if they take drugs/supplements as
> long as they are not harming other people. The truth is however that
> in the long (or sometimes short) run they often end up hurting other
> people even if all they do is overdose and die. Drugs are not the
> problem, just the vehicle. Human behavior is the problem.
> Mental health conditions (severe depression) is cause for people
> making poor decisions regarding their lives. This includes taking
> drugs. This whole conversation about cyclists using drugs etc. is
> only being voiced on this site because of the focus of this list. It
> is societies/cultures of this planet that the source of drug use.
> If Tyler is dealing with depression, I too hope he gets good
> professional care and even more important he gets the care from those
> who love him. It is that care that may be enough to help him deal
> with what will probably be with him the rest of his life. He can
> still be productive and have a very postive impact on others if he
> makes good choices.
> For those out in obra-land that have never dealt with depression or
> had negative life changing experiences, I suggest cutting others a
> little slack. Life does not always go smoothly just because you think
> you're traveling the right path.
> ron
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Ron and Dorothy Strasser

This is not just about cycling so do not read if you only want to consider carbon fiber, powdercoat specialists etc.

As long as drugs are available, humans will use them. They will use them to enhance physical performance, perceived social performance (beer/pot), and various other uses. I think having rules in place to keep a playing field level for each person is good, same as rules to minimize use of meth, heroin etc. as these in the end help protect members of society. Every person makes the choice about using drugs, supplements, etc. (legal or not) almost every day. They do this with the rules in place. I do not care if they take drugs/supplements as long as they are not harming other people. The truth is however that in the long (or sometimes short) run they often end up hurting other people even if all they do is overdose and die. Drugs are not the problem, just the vehicle. Human behavior is the problem.
Mental health conditions (severe depression) is cause for people making poor decisions regarding their lives. This includes taking drugs. This whole conversation about cyclists using drugs etc. is only being voiced on this site because of the focus of this list. It is societies/cultures of this planet that the source of drug use.
If Tyler is dealing with depression, I too hope he gets good professional care and even more important he gets the care from those who love him. It is that care that may be enough to help him deal with what will probably be with him the rest of his life. He can still be productive and have a very postive impact on others if he makes good choices.
For those out in obra-land that have never dealt with depression or had negative life changing experiences, I suggest cutting others a little slack. Life does not always go smoothly just because you think you're traveling the right path.
ron