RE: Will Banana belt (...Larch Mtn or any other race...)continue?

teddie matteson

2002-03-12

Another good storage place for litter and/or fresh Clif Shots, Gu, etc.

is the leg opening of your shorts.



On that same note, my preference to messing around with opening those

*&%@! packets and then sticking the empty gooey things *anywhere* is to

use the squirt containers that you fill yourself. They also will fit in

the leg openings of your shorts. (No Mae West jokes here, please.)

Fumbling shrinks to a minimum.



Mark Greenwood

2002-03-12

I think the point is that if we all take care of our own stuff, we won't

have to burden already over-stretched volunteers with it! I don't see

why a few volunteers should be expected to bear the burden. I'm afraid

asking for that is like giving license to litter because "there are

always the volunteers to clean it up".



Why not ask all racers to sweep the course on their cool-down and pick

up trash?



David Oliphant wrote:

 i.e. Litter issues: I might recommend that each race promoter dedicate a

few volunteers, at each of his/her event(s), to 'cleaning up the course'

after the race has ended. The volunteers could ride/drive the course and

picking up a few wrappers, bottles etc left behind.



Food for thought...



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All,

Indeed some great points and help on a serious issue. Given that several

races have been cancelled or are looking for race promoters to pick up

the torch, I'd like to use an example of a possible upcoming race.....

(Though a little long-winded for an OBRA chat email, I feel compelled as

a potential race promoter that I should convey my own experience with

this)



I am currently leading a team of fellow racers to bring back the Larch

Mountain Hillclimb (The perfect Father's Day gift for your family racer

on June 16th!) and one of the very first questions from just about every

person at a community meeting was what kind of mess 1000 'bicycle

people' will leave.



Explaining the difference between a 'fun-walk-run-ride-tour-gala event

for weekend warriors' -- who are seen as having no ettiquette, safety or

environmental concern -- and exerienced racers was well received in part

because several community members are aware of OBRA and it's history and

feel experienced racers are more knowledgeable and respectful. HOWEVER,

Larch Mtn has been missing for several years and several community

members are reluctant to approve this. While it does appear that we will

gain support from the neighborhood groups -for this year- when seeking

our ODOT and County permits, it will only take one or two incidents to

cause Larch Mtn to become a one-time event. Anyone remember the trouble

at the District TT last year? It's not just litter. Rules of the road,

and community interaction are also part of it.



Also, don't forget to thank everyone you see including our officials,

corner marshalls who protect us, people on the roads even other racers

just for showing up to try to beat me. A big thanks to Jeff Mitchem and

his BB Co. for a job well done. So far so good, and another week still

ahead. :)



Cheers and good wishes...



Ernie 'E-Racer' Conway







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If your jersey isn't baggy, try tucking the used wrapping/empty gel pack



up under the hem in front. I have good success in not dropping my

garbage (or having to try and stuff it into my rear pockets) this way.



Especially good for cold, numble-fingered days like yesterday!



Dan, thanks for speaking up on this issue...peer pressure against

littering is a bit tough, especially when it might be some really cool,

strong rider that tosses garbage off, but littering is really yucky and

should be seen that way!



David

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 At least one masters rider faced with no way to get a used pack to his

pocket under the rain gear handed the empty gel pack into an officials

car. Better than dropping them on the road.

Splinter

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norma-@aol.com

2002-03-11

At the end of the Cherry Pie Race last month in Harrisburg, my wife and I walked around the parking lot and picked a only one gu pack, and a banana peel, as well as some pretty old paper cups and an empty plastic oil can that had been driven over for months. I drove the course the following day and did not find any litter along the route.



A very good bunch of racers and the folks at the cafe and truck stop loved having us out there. Keep up the good work. Norman Babcock and Nancy Waggoner



mike.m-@obra.org

2002-03-11

David Oliphant wrote:



"i.e. Litter issues: I might recommend that each race promoter dedicate a

few volunteers, at each of his/her event(s), to 'cleaning up the course'

after the race has ended. The volunteers could ride/drive the course and

picking up a few wrappers, bottles etc left behind. "



Volunteers are in short supply and we should NOT be depending on them to

pick up after us. We may need to do this anyhow since inevitably there will

be the egocentric and thoughtless pigs who think that someone SHOULD pick up

after them but it would be far better if we just don't litter in the first

place.



Mike Murray



E. Conway

2002-03-11

All,

Indeed some great points and help on a serious issue. Given that several races have been cancelled or are looking for race promoters to pick up the torch, I'd like to use an example of a possible upcoming race..... (Though a little long-winded for an OBRA chat email, I feel compelled as a potential race promoter that I should convey my own experience with this)



I am currently leading a team of fellow racers to bring back the Larch Mountain Hillclimb (The perfect Father's Day gift for your family racer on June 16th!) and one of the very first questions from just about every person at a community meeting was what kind of mess 1000 'bicycle people' will leave.



Explaining the difference between a 'fun-walk-run-ride-tour-gala event for weekend warriors' -- who are seen as having no ettiquette, safety or environmental concern -- and exerienced racers was well received in part because several community members are aware of OBRA and it's history and feel experienced racers are more knowledgeable and respectful. HOWEVER, Larch Mtn has been missing for several years and several community members are reluctant to approve this. While it does appear that we will gain support from the neighborhood groups -for this year- when seeking our ODOT and County permits, it will only take one or two incidents to cause Larch Mtn to become a one-time event. Anyone remember the trouble at the District TT last year? It's not just litter. Rules of the road, and community interaction are also part of it.



Also, don't forget to thank everyone you see including our officials, corner marshalls who protect us, people on the roads even other racers just for showing up to try to beat me. A big thanks to Jeff Mitchem and his BB Co. for a job well done. So far so good, and another week still ahead. :)



Cheers and good wishes...



Ernie 'E-Racer' Conway







-----Original Message-----

From: David Auker [SMTP:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]

Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:25 AM

To: splin-@aol.com

Cc: br-@politesociety.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Will Banana belt continue?



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If your jersey isn't baggy, try tucking the used wrapping/empty gel pack

up under the hem in front. I have good success in not dropping my

garbage (or having to try and stuff it into my rear pockets) this way.



Especially good for cold, numble-fingered days like yesterday!



Dan, thanks for speaking up on this issue...peer pressure against

littering is a bit tough, especially when it might be some really cool,

strong rider that tosses garbage off, but littering is really yucky and

should be seen that way!



David

--------------------------

splin-@aol.com wrote:



 At least one masters rider faced with no way to get a used pack to his

pocket under the rain gear handed the empty gel pack into an officials

car. Better than dropping them on the road.

Splinter

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