RE: Will Banana belt (...Larch Mtn or any other

David Oliphant

2002-03-11

Per Mike Murray...it was just my thought or suggestion to safeguard against the inevitable egocentric and thoughtless pigs who think that someone SHOULD pick up after them but it would be far better if we just don't litter in the first place. (ha,ha)



   <mike.m-@obra.org> 03/11/02 09:43AM >>>

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David Oliphant wrote:



"i.e. Litter issues: I might recommend that each race promoter dedicate a

few volunteers, at each of his/her event(s), to 'cleaning up the course'

after the race has ended. The volunteers could ride/drive the course and

picking up a few wrappers, bottles etc left behind. "



Volunteers are in short supply and we should NOT be depending on them to

pick up after us. We may need to do this anyhow since inevitably there will

be the egocentric and thoughtless pigs who think that someone SHOULD pick up

after them but it would be far better if we just don't litter in the first

place.



Mike Murray



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David Oliphant

2002-03-11

i.e. Litter issues: I might recommend that each race promoter dedicate a few volunteers, at each of his/her event(s), to 'cleaning up the course' after the race has ended. The volunteers could ride/drive the course and picking up a few wrappers, bottles etc left behind.



Food for thought...



   "E. Conway" <unix-@attbi.com> 03/11/02 08:55AM >>>

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All,

Indeed some great points and help on a serious issue. Given that several races have been cancelled or are looking for race promoters to pick up the torch, I'd like to use an example of a possible upcoming race..... (Though a little long-winded for an OBRA chat email, I feel compelled as a potential race promoter that I should convey my own experience with this)



I am currently leading a team of fellow racers to bring back the Larch Mountain Hillclimb (The perfect Father's Day gift for your family racer on June 16th!) and one of the very first questions from just about every person at a community meeting was what kind of mess 1000 'bicycle people' will leave.



Explaining the difference between a 'fun-walk-run-ride-tour-gala event for weekend warriors' -- who are seen as having no ettiquette, safety or environmental concern -- and exerienced racers was well received in part because several community members are aware of OBRA and it's history and feel experienced racers are more knowledgeable and respectful. HOWEVER, Larch Mtn has been missing for several years and several community members are reluctant to approve this. While it does appear that we will gain support from the neighborhood groups -for this year- when seeking our ODOT and County permits, it will only take one or two incidents to cause Larch Mtn to become a one-time event. Anyone remember the trouble at the District TT last year? It's not just litter. Rules of the road, and community interaction are also part of it.



Also, don't forget to thank everyone you see including our officials, corner marshalls who protect us, people on the roads even other racers just for showing up to try to beat me. A big thanks to Jeff Mitchem and his BB Co. for a job well done. So far so good, and another week still ahead. :)



Cheers and good wishes...



Ernie 'E-Racer' Conway







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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Will Banana belt continue?



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If your jersey isn't baggy, try tucking the used wrapping/empty gel pack

up under the hem in front. I have good success in not dropping my

garbage (or having to try and stuff it into my rear pockets) this way.



Especially good for cold, numble-fingered days like yesterday!



Dan, thanks for speaking up on this issue...peer pressure against

littering is a bit tough, especially when it might be some really cool,

strong rider that tosses garbage off, but littering is really yucky and

should be seen that way!



David

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splin-@aol.com wrote:



 At least one masters rider faced with no way to get a used pack to his

pocket under the rain gear handed the empty gel pack into an officials

car. Better than dropping them on the road.

Splinter

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