Re: [OBRA Officials] Elkhorn Results?!?!

Candi Murray

2009-06-22

It was a joke guys, let it go.
Candi

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From: obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org
[mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Scott Jones
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:31 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org; worldsmaddestdog@gmail.com
Cc: OBRA Officials
Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] [OBRA Chat] Elkhorn Results?!?!

Seriously, did this person really mean this?

"And I for one will positively pitch in to a fund to buy the Elkhorn Classic
a computer and a monkey to run it for the the difficult task of posting
stuff to the Internet for 2010."

Ok then, since you think a monkey could do the job, why don't you come on
out to a race then and try to place riders when the conditions are
difficult, let alone when they are good. We have riders, even in great
weather, place numbers on the wrong side, upside down, covered by vest or
jacket, don't sign in, etc. and it makes our job as officials that much
harder. Like Mike said, we try to produce results as quickly and accurately
as possible, and then to hear criticism like this makes me not want to place
anyone beyond the points.

Do you really need to know you finished 56th at PIR? Well, we place you
because we think riders like that, people thank us for that, but if you are
stating that we don't need to place you, I'd be more than happy to tell my
Cheif Judge to only place those in the points from now on. I don't need to
spend, nor do other officials, hours of our own time looking over the
results to place people when there is no need for it and you aren't grateful
for us doing it.

I will say that I'm hoping your comment was in a joking matter, I really do.
I know that if you are serious though, that you are in the minority of the
racers in OBRA land and that most racers enjoy seeing such nicely tabulted
and lengthy results week in and week out.

Scott Jones
OBRA Official

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Mike Murray wrote:

The "monkeys" running the multiple computers at Elkhorn, as well as at every
other race in Oregon, could easily take offense to the statement below. The
webmaster, officials and organizers might share in this offense. I do not
think that offense was intended. People need to understand that producing
and disseminating results is a non-trivial task. Add this to the other
headaches of race organizing and it is a miracle that anyone puts on any
races. Results at Oregon races are produced more rapidly and throughly than
just about anywhere else but that doesn't keep people from asking for more.
Rude comments about results errors and requests for changes in results that
are weeks old are common.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: "Re: Elkhorn Results?!?!" [worldsmaddestdog@gmail.com]
Date: 06/22/2009 02:09 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Elkhorn Results?!?!

I agree with Candi. It certainly is not under the officials' purview to
disseminate results information to anybody but the promoter once they've
finished the painstaking and tedious work of porecssing it.

And I for one will positively pitch in to a fund to buy the Elkhorn Classic
a computer and a monkey to run it for the the difficult task of posting
stuff to the Internet for 2010.

It's definitely a special race. The landscape is awesome. I'm guessing there
are endless course scenarios in that area. And the community seems to be
very into it and proud of their race. And I'm sure the local economy gets a
little boost, too.

One very cool thing is that I saw my old friend Brian Olson watching the
crit. His wife (the local animal "rescuer" out in Helvetia) gave me my dog
15 years ago. He owns a furniture store in downtown Baker City now.

Crazy little world.
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