Lisa

I finally got to watch the whole stage on TV rather than online and Charter down here in Southern Oregon kept it commercial free for around the last 10k of the stage. Don't know by comparison if this is a daily thing though, but very nice for us!
 
Cheers!

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, joe cipale wrote:

From: joe cipale
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:18 PM

But with the condensed version, you are stuck with Bob Roll.

I think this issue (poor commercial timing) is something that occurs at select
Comcast locales. Here in Vancouver, I have yet to see a problem with poor
commercial timing during the finishes.

Joe

On Thursday 09 July 2009 23:11, Sarah Tisdale wrote:
> Sounds like the best answer is to skip the live version (where they
> insert silly commercials) and instead watch the delayed re-broadcasts.
>  They're better anyway since they condense it down shorter -
> especially for the longer mountain stages.  Of course, they aren't
> live though, and I assume they occasionally cut out some entertaining
> video...
>
> I lost versus when comcast removed it from the "limited basic" cable.  :-(
>
> Sarah
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, wrote:
> > Obviosly, people are not complaining about advertisements.  It is the way
> > they are occurring, such as being randomly inserted over the broadcast
> > without regard to the state of the event.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "scott hill"
> > To: obra@list.obra.org, "Lisa"
> > Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:12:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> >
> > it is funny how we all complain now about the coverage. 8 or so years
> > ago, pre OLN/VS, all you got was a 30 min show on espn every day and
> > maybe an hour on sat and sun, and before that maybe a 1 hour show on wide
> > world of sports on sundays. i guess what i am saying is that it is good
> > they have advertisers, because if they didn't we would not be watching
> > the tour everyday live.
> >
> > scott
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Lisa wrote:
> >
> > From: Lisa
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:47 PM
> >
> >
> > I'm with Charter in Ashland, but haven't caught finishes on TV as I am at
> > work by then...off tomorrow so will let you know about their VS coverage
> > and ads if still interested
> >
> > ~ lisa
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rick C Johnson wrote:
> >
> > From: Rick C Johnson
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > To: "obra@list.obra.org"
> > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:49 AM
> >
> > FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
> > insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
> > support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
> > issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.
> >
> > That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
> > ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
> > coverage here in Bend!
> >
> > Rick Johnson
> > Bend, Oregon
> >
> > "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George
> > Santayana
> >
> > KO Kevin wrote:
> >> I watched yesterday’s early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> >> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> >> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> >> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> >> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> >> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> >> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> >>
> >> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
> >>
> >> scott
> >>
> >> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //* wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>     From: Scott Fitzwater
> >>     Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> >>     To: "craig austin"
> >>     Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> >>     Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
> >>
> >>     Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
> >>     town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
> >>     overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
> >>     Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
> >>     blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast
> >> itself. Scott
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
> >>      >>
> >>     >>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
> >>     Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
> >>     programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
> >>     Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
> >>     programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
> >>     the network that's carrying the event.
> >>
> >>     Craig
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
> >>      >>
> >>     >>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>               I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in
> >> another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
> >>               TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
> >>               Completely missed the finish.
> >>
> >>         I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads
> >> and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.
> >
> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >
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No rogue ads in yesterdays broadcast and haven't seen any today - yet. Maybe
folks are calling and emailing with complaints. I know we have.
Scott

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:18 PM, joe cipale wrote:

> But with the condensed version, you are stuck with Bob Roll.
>
> I think this issue (poor commercial timing) is something that occurs at
> select
> Comcast locales. Here in Vancouver, I have yet to see a problem with poor
> commercial timing during the finishes.
>
> Joe
>
> On Thursday 09 July 2009 23:11, Sarah Tisdale wrote:
> > Sounds like the best answer is to skip the live version (where they
> > insert silly commercials) and instead watch the delayed re-broadcasts.
> > They're better anyway since they condense it down shorter -
> > especially for the longer mountain stages. Of course, they aren't
> > live though, and I assume they occasionally cut out some entertaining
> > video...
> >
> > I lost versus when comcast removed it from the "limited basic" cable.
> :-(
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, wrote:
> > > Obviosly, people are not complaining about advertisements. It is the
> way
> > > they are occurring, such as being randomly inserted over the broadcast
> > > without regard to the state of the event.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "scott hill"
> > > To: obra@list.obra.org, "Lisa"
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:12:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > >
> > > it is funny how we all complain now about the coverage. 8 or so years
> > > ago, pre OLN/VS, all you got was a 30 min show on espn every day and
> > > maybe an hour on sat and sun, and before that maybe a 1 hour show on
> wide
> > > world of sports on sundays. i guess what i am saying is that it is good
> > > they have advertisers, because if they didn't we would not be watching
> > > the tour everyday live.
> > >
> > > scott
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Lisa wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Lisa
> > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:47 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm with Charter in Ashland, but haven't caught finishes on TV as I am
> at
> > > work by then...off tomorrow so will let you know about their VS
> coverage
> > > and ads if still interested
> > >
> > > ~ lisa
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rick C Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Rick C Johnson
> > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > > To: "obra@list.obra.org"
> > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:49 AM
> > >
> > > FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
> > > insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
> > > support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
> > > issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.
> > >
> > > That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming
> our
> > > ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
> > > coverage here in Bend!
> > >
> > > Rick Johnson
> > > Bend, Oregon
> > >
> > > "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" -
> George
> > > Santayana
> > >
> > > KO Kevin wrote:
> > >> I watched yesterday’s early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> > >> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> > >> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> > >> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
> > >>
> > >> Kevin
> > >>
> > >> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ]
> > >> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> > >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> > >> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> > >> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> > >> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > >>
> > >> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland
> thing.
> > >>
> > >> scott
> > >>
> > >> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //*
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Scott Fitzwater
> > >> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > >> To: "craig austin"
> > >> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> > >> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
> > >>
> > >> Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
> > >> town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
> > >> overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
> > >> Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
> > >> blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast
> > >> itself. Scott
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
> > >> > >>
> > >> <
> http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=useyourdagger@gmail.com
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
> > >> Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
> > >> programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
> > >> Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
> > >> programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
> > >> the network that's carrying the event.
> > >>
> > >> Craig
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
> > >> > >>
> > >> <
> http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.fitzh2o@gmail.com
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in
> > >> another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
> > >> TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
> > >> Completely missed the finish.
> > >>
> > >> I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads
> > >> and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.
> > >
> > > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > >
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joe cipale

But with the condensed version, you are stuck with Bob Roll.

I think this issue (poor commercial timing) is something that occurs at select
Comcast locales. Here in Vancouver, I have yet to see a problem with poor
commercial timing during the finishes.

Joe

On Thursday 09 July 2009 23:11, Sarah Tisdale wrote:
> Sounds like the best answer is to skip the live version (where they
> insert silly commercials) and instead watch the delayed re-broadcasts.
> They're better anyway since they condense it down shorter -
> especially for the longer mountain stages. Of course, they aren't
> live though, and I assume they occasionally cut out some entertaining
> video...
>
> I lost versus when comcast removed it from the "limited basic" cable. :-(
>
> Sarah
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, wrote:
> > Obviosly, people are not complaining about advertisements.  It is the way
> > they are occurring, such as being randomly inserted over the broadcast
> > without regard to the state of the event.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "scott hill"
> > To: obra@list.obra.org, "Lisa"
> > Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:12:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> >
> > it is funny how we all complain now about the coverage. 8 or so years
> > ago, pre OLN/VS, all you got was a 30 min show on espn every day and
> > maybe an hour on sat and sun, and before that maybe a 1 hour show on wide
> > world of sports on sundays. i guess what i am saying is that it is good
> > they have advertisers, because if they didn't we would not be watching
> > the tour everyday live.
> >
> > scott
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Lisa wrote:
> >
> > From: Lisa
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:47 PM
> >
> >
> > I'm with Charter in Ashland, but haven't caught finishes on TV as I am at
> > work by then...off tomorrow so will let you know about their VS coverage
> > and ads if still interested
> >
> > ~ lisa
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rick C Johnson wrote:
> >
> > From: Rick C Johnson
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > To: "obra@list.obra.org"
> > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:49 AM
> >
> > FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
> > insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
> > support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
> > issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.
> >
> > That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
> > ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
> > coverage here in Bend!
> >
> > Rick Johnson
> > Bend, Oregon
> >
> > "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George
> > Santayana
> >
> > KO Kevin wrote:
> >> I watched yesterday’s early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> >> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> >> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> >> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> >> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> >> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> >> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> >>
> >> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
> >>
> >> scott
> >>
> >> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //* wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>     From: Scott Fitzwater
> >>     Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> >>     To: "craig austin"
> >>     Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> >>     Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
> >>
> >>     Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
> >>     town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
> >>     overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
> >>     Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
> >>     blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast
> >> itself. Scott
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
> >>      >>
> >>     >>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
> >>     Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
> >>     programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
> >>     Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
> >>     programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
> >>     the network that's carrying the event.
> >>
> >>     Craig
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
> >>      >>
> >>     >>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>               I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in
> >> another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
> >>               TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
> >>               Completely missed the finish.
> >>
> >>         I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads
> >> and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.
> >
> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >
> >
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> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Sarah Tisdale

Sounds like the best answer is to skip the live version (where they
insert silly commercials) and instead watch the delayed re-broadcasts.
They're better anyway since they condense it down shorter -
especially for the longer mountain stages. Of course, they aren't
live though, and I assume they occasionally cut out some entertaining
video...

I lost versus when comcast removed it from the "limited basic" cable. :-(

Sarah

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, wrote:
> Obviosly, people are not complaining about advertisements.  It is the way
> they are occurring, such as being randomly inserted over the broadcast
> without regard to the state of the event.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "scott hill"
> To: obra@list.obra.org, "Lisa"
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:12:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>
> it is funny how we all complain now about the coverage. 8 or so years ago,
> pre OLN/VS, all you got was a 30 min show on espn every day and maybe an
> hour on sat and sun, and before that maybe a 1 hour show on wide world of
> sports on sundays. i guess what i am saying is that it is good they have
> advertisers, because if they didn't we would not be watching the tour
> everyday live.
>
> scott
>
> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Lisa wrote:
>
> From: Lisa
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:47 PM
>
>
> I'm with Charter in Ashland, but haven't caught finishes on TV as I am at
> work by then...off tomorrow so will let you know about their VS coverage and
> ads if still interested
>
> ~ lisa
>
> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rick C Johnson wrote:
>
> From: Rick C Johnson
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> To: "obra@list.obra.org"
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:49 AM
>
> FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
> insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
> support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
> issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.
>
> That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
> ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
> coverage here in Bend!
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
> "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George
> Santayana
>
>
>
> KO Kevin wrote:
>
>> I watched yesterday’s early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
>> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
>> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
>> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
>> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
>> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>>
>> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
>>
>> scott
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: Scott Fitzwater
>>     Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>>     To: "craig austin"
>>     Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>>     Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
>>
>>     Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
>>     town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
>>     overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
>>     Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
>>     blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
>>     Scott
>>
>>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
>>     >
>>    >
>>     wrote:
>>
>>     While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
>>     Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
>>     programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
>>     Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
>>     programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
>>     the network that's carrying the event.
>>
>>     Craig
>>
>>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
>>     >
>>    >
>>     wrote:
>>
>>
>>               I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad
>> right at the finish of the live presentation of the
>>               TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
>>               Completely missed the finish.
>>
>>         I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads and
>> they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.
>
>
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Obviosly, people are not complaining about advertisements.  It is the way they are occurring, such as being randomly inserted over the broadcast without regard to the state of the event. 

----- Original Message -----
From: "scott hill"
To: obra@list.obra.org, "Lisa"
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:12:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler

it is funny how we all complain now about the coverage. 8 or so years ago, pre OLN/VS, all you got was a 30 min show on espn every day and maybe an hour on sat and sun, and before that maybe a 1 hour show on wide world of sports on sundays. i guess what i am saying is that it is good they have advertisers, because if they didn't we would not be watching the tour everyday live.

scott

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Lisa wrote:

From: Lisa
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:47 PM

I'm with Charter in Ashland, but haven't caught finishes on TV as I am at work by then...off tomorrow so will let you know about their VS coverage and ads if still interested

~ lisa

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rick C Johnson wrote:

From: Rick C Johnson
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: "obra@list.obra.org"
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:49 AM

FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.

That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
coverage here in Bend!

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

KO Kevin wrote:

> I watched yesterday’s early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
>
> Kevin
>
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto: obra-bounces@list.obra.org ]
> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>
> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
>
> scott
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater /< scott.fitzh2o@gmail.com >/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Scott Fitzwater < scott.fitzh2o@gmail.com >
>     Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>     To: "craig austin" < useyourdagger@gmail.com >
>     Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>     Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
>
>     Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
>     town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
>     overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
>     Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
>     blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
>     Scott
>
>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
>     < useyourdagger@gmail.com
>     < http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=useyourdagger@gmail.com >>
>     wrote:
>
>     While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
>     Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
>     programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
>     Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
>     programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
>     the network that's carrying the event.
>
>     Craig
>
>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
>     < scott.fitzh2o@gmail.com
>     < http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.fitzh2o@gmail.com >>
>     wrote:
>
>
>               I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
>               TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
>               Completely missed the finish.
>
>         I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.

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http://atdhe.tv is the correct link. Sorry for the transposed letters earlier.

On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:00, Robert Burney wrote:
> Joe,
> The address you gave does not resolve to a current site. It seems to be a
> site to advertise services.
> Can you copy the address out of your browser for us IT limited folks?
> Thanks
>
> Robert Burney, JD
> President
>
> RE Burney & Associates, Inc.
> 8285 SW Nimbus Ave., Suite 124
> Beaverton, OR 97008
>
> Brokerage of Life Insurance, Annuities,
> Long Term Care and Disability Insurance.
>
> Office: 503-608-7813
> Cell: 503-502-4289
> EFax: 503-210-1595
> Email: robert@reburney.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of joe cipale
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:53 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org; aleritz@bridgeh2o.com
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>
> If you have high-speed internet, go to athde.net. It is a Pakistani site
> that
> streams sports and other programming 24/7. It works best on WIndows-based
> PCs/laptops.
>
> Joe C.
>
> On Thursday 09 July 2009 10:23, Aaron Leritz wrote:
> > Not sure if anyone else has experienced this, but beginning yesterday
> > Comcast began scrambling several HD channels that HDTV owners could get
>
> for
>
> > free. We had basic service and could get a large number of "free" HD
> > channels as incidentals. VS was one of many (CNN, ESPN, it goes on).
> > Comcast informed me that they have begun scrambling those channels and
> > there are more to come. To correct this, we have to upgrade our service
>
> and
>
> > buy the next package, really disappointing. Seems like a racket. Are
> > there any other alternatives to upgrading the service and getting free HD
> > channels?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Rick C Johnson
> > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:50 AM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> >
> > FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
> > insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
> > support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
> > issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.
> >
> > That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
> > ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
> > coverage here in Bend!
> >
> > Rick Johnson
> > Bend, Oregon
> >
> > "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George
> > Santayana
> >
> > KO Kevin wrote:
> > > I watched yesterday's early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> > > interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> > > had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> > > evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> > > *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> > > *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> > > *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> > > *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > >
> > > did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland
> > > thing.
> > >
> > > scott
> > >
> > > --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //*
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Scott Fitzwater
> > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > > To: "craig austin"
> > > Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
> > >
> > > Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
> > > town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
> > > overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
> > > Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
> > > blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast
>
> itself.
>
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
> > > Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
> > > programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
> > > Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
> > > programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
> > > the network that's carrying the event.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another
> > > ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
> > > TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
> > > Completely missed the finish.
> > >
> > > I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads
> > > and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another
>
> carrier.
>
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it is funny how we all complain now about the coverage. 8 or so years ago, pre OLN/VS, all you got was a 30 min show on espn every day and maybe an hour on sat and sun, and before that maybe a 1 hour show on wide world of sports on sundays. i guess what i am saying is that it is good they have advertisers, because if they didn't we would not be watching the tour everyday live.
 
scott

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Lisa wrote:

From: Lisa
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:47 PM

I'm with Charter in Ashland, but haven't caught finishes on TV as I am at work by then...off tomorrow so will let you know about their VS coverage and ads if still interested
 
~ lisa

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rick C Johnson wrote:

From: Rick C Johnson
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: "obra@list.obra.org"
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:49 AM

FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.

That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
coverage here in Bend!

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

KO Kevin wrote:

> I watched yesterday’s early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
>
> Kevin
>
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>
> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
>
> scott
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Scott Fitzwater
>     Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>     To: "craig austin"
>     Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>     Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
>
>     Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
>     town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
>     overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
>     Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
>     blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
>     Scott
>
>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
>          >
>     wrote:
>
>     While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
>     Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
>     programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
>     Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
>     programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
>     the network that's carrying the event.
>
>     Craig
>
>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
>          >
>     wrote:
>
>
>               I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
>               TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
>               Completely missed the finish.
>
>         I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.

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I'm with Charter in Ashland, but haven't caught finishes on TV as I am at work by then...off tomorrow so will let you know about their VS coverage and ads if still interested
 
~ lisa

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rick C Johnson wrote:

From: Rick C Johnson
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: "obra@list.obra.org"
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:49 AM

FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.

That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
coverage here in Bend!

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

KO Kevin wrote:

> I watched yesterday’s early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
>
> Kevin
>
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>
> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
>
> scott
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Scott Fitzwater
>     Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>     To: "craig austin"
>     Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>     Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
>
>     Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
>     town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
>     overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
>     Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
>     blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
>     Scott
>
>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
>          >
>     wrote:
>
>     While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
>     Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
>     programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
>     Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
>     programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
>     the network that's carrying the event.
>
>     Craig
>
>     On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
>          >
>     wrote:
>
>
>               I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
>               TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
>               Completely missed the finish.
>
>         I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.

Erik Voldengen

I believe Comcast needed OLN to be on the basic cable package because
they broadcast NHL games, and it was the only way to get the viewer
numbers required by NHL. Not sure if it was true.

I also inquired about getting versus again, and all it will take is a
new digital plan that is over $40 more per month. For TV? Ish.

-Erik

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Aaron Leritz wrote:
> No, they didn’t, I will explain. Before digital conversion, you could get
> the channel for free, even though it was not part of the basic service. It
> was a bene that is now gone! For 3 years I thought it was part of the basic
> package. I was informed yesterday that it has not been part of the basic
> package for 5 years. I told them I have gotten it for 3 years and that is
> when Comcast explained to me that it was a little extra free channel we have
> been getting, which depended on your locations, and not part of our basic
> package.
>

Aaron Leritz

No, they didn't, I will explain. Before digital conversion, you could get
the channel for free, even though it was not part of the basic service. It
was a bene that is now gone! For 3 years I thought it was part of the basic
package. I was informed yesterday that it has not been part of the basic
package for 5 years. I told them I have gotten it for 3 years and that is
when Comcast explained to me that it was a little extra free channel we have
been getting, which depended on your locations, and not part of our basic
package.

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Johnny .
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:59 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler

At least you get to watch the TdF. When Comcast made the switch to digital
they removed Versus, E & AMC from the "poor mans cable" so I have to watch
bits on youtube & off the net, which is horrible. I can get those channels
if I upgrade my package... for a fee. Thanks Comcast!

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joe cipale

If you have high-speed internet, go to athde.net. It is a Pakistani site that
streams sports and other programming 24/7. It works best on WIndows-based
PCs/laptops.

Joe C.

On Thursday 09 July 2009 10:23, Aaron Leritz wrote:
> Not sure if anyone else has experienced this, but beginning yesterday
> Comcast began scrambling several HD channels that HDTV owners could get for
> free. We had basic service and could get a large number of "free" HD
> channels as incidentals. VS was one of many (CNN, ESPN, it goes on).
> Comcast informed me that they have begun scrambling those channels and
> there are more to come. To correct this, we have to upgrade our service and
> buy the next package, really disappointing. Seems like a racket. Are there
> any other alternatives to upgrading the service and getting free HD
> channels?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Rick C Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:50 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>
> FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
> insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
> support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
> issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.
>
> That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
> ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
> coverage here in Bend!
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
> "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George
> Santayana
>
> KO Kevin wrote:
> > I watched yesterday's early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> > interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> > had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> > evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> > *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> > *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> > *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> >
> > did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
> >
> > scott
> >
> > --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Scott Fitzwater
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> > To: "craig austin"
> > Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
> >
> > Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
> > town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
> > overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
> > Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
> > blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
> > Scott
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
> >
> >
>
> > wrote:
> >
> > While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
> > Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
> > programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
> > Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
> > programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
> > the network that's carrying the event.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
> >
> >
>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another
> > ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
> > TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
> > Completely missed the finish.
> >
> > I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads
> > and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.
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Johnny,

We were in same boat and just decided yesterday to finally upgrade. On demand TdF is quite nice.

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:58:49 +0000
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler

At least you get to watch the TdF. When Comcast made the switch to digital they removed Versus, E & AMC from the "poor mans cable" so I have to watch bits on youtube & off the net, which is horrible. I can get those channels if I upgrade my package... for a fee. Thanks Comcast!
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At least you get to watch the TdF. When Comcast made the switch to digital they removed Versus, E & AMC from the "poor mans cable" so I have to watch bits on youtube & off the net, which is horrible. I can get those channels if I upgrade my package... for a fee. Thanks Comcast!
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Not sure if anyone else has experienced this, but beginning yesterday
Comcast began scrambling several HD channels that HDTV owners could get for
free. We had basic service and could get a large number of "free" HD
channels as incidentals. VS was one of many (CNN, ESPN, it goes on). Comcast
informed me that they have begun scrambling those channels and there are
more to come. To correct this, we have to upgrade our service and buy the
next package, really disappointing. Seems like a racket. Are there any other
alternatives to upgrading the service and getting free HD channels?

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Behalf Of Rick C Johnson
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:50 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler

FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.

That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
coverage here in Bend!

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George
Santayana

KO Kevin wrote:

> I watched yesterday's early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
>
> Kevin
>
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>
> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
>
> scott
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //* wrote:
>
>
> From: Scott Fitzwater
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> To: "craig austin"
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
>
> Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
> town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
> overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
> Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
> blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
> Scott
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
>
>
> wrote:
>
> While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
> Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
> programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
> Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
> programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
> the network that's carrying the event.
>
> Craig
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another
> ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
> TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
> Completely missed the finish.
>
> I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads
> and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.
>
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FYI - this is the first year that the Tour broadcast has been able to
insert local advertising. Prior to this year there was no technical
support for anything other than the network feed spots. Sounds like the
issues some of you are experiencing stem from this change.

That's the story I heard from my sponsor at the time we were filming our
ads to run during this period. Hopefully our ads don't spoil anyones
coverage here in Bend!

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

KO Kevin wrote:

> I watched yesterday’s early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was
> interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I
> had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The
> evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.
>
> Kevin
>
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> *On Behalf Of *scott hill
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
> *To:* craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
>
> did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
>
> scott
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater //* wrote:
>
>
> From: Scott Fitzwater
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
> To: "craig austin"
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
>
> Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
> town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
> overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet
> Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that
> blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
> Scott
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
> >
> wrote:
>
> While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
> Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS
> programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as
> Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff;
> programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of
> the network that's carrying the event.
>
> Craig
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
> >
> wrote:
>
>
> I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another
> ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the
> TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable!
> Completely missed the finish.
>
> I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads
> and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.
>
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KO Kevin

I watched yesterday's early morning TdF broadcast, the coverage was interrupted by commercials with less than 300 meters to the finish. I had to sit through several commercials before I knew the results. The evening re-broadcast was fine. This was on Eugene Comcast.

Kevin

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of scott hill
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
To: craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler

did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.

scott

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater wrote:

From: Scott Fitzwater
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: "craig austin"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM
Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
Scott
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin > wrote:
While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of the network that's carrying the event.

Craig
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater > wrote:
I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.
I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.

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Long, Steve

Shoot man, I live in Milwaukie and I don't recall that. I remember
seeing who won and who got 2nd place.

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of scott hill
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:48 AM
To: craig austin; Scott Fitzwater
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler

did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.

scott

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater wrote:

From: Scott Fitzwater
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: "craig austin"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM

Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of
town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads
overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet Versus
allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that blocked the
finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
Scott

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin
>
wrote:

While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with
Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming,
including commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other
carrier. They just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of
commercials are the responsibility of the network that's carrying the
event.

Craig

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
>
wrote:

I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another
ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That
is just incredibly unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.

I've already earlier called Comcast about those
irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another
carrier.

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gschreckchat@comcast.net

No commercials after 7k on Direct TV as well. In fact, Liggett said that it would be the last commercial break.  These commercials have nothing to do with the Versus feed, as they are inserted right over the race and often right in the middle of Liggett's commentary.  The fact is that Comcast is not doing any of there advertisers and favors becuase the ads only serve to enrage the viewer rather than make the viewer more likely to buy the prodcut. As a result contact the advertiser and mention that their commercials are making you less likely to buy the product. 

----- Original Message -----
From: "david baker"
To: "craig austin" , "Scott Fitzwater"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 9:46:08 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler

Dish network's last commercial was at 7k to go. HD also. Directv could very well have been the same. There are commercial spots for carriers(cable and sat companies), that are not control by the network(versus). 

----- Original Message -----
From: craig austin
To: Scott Fitzwater
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler

While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of the network that's carrying the event.

Craig

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater < scott.fitzh2o@gmail.com > wrote:

I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.
I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.

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did not have the problem on comcast in eugene. must be a portland thing.
 
scott

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Scott Fitzwater wrote:

From: Scott Fitzwater
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Comcast and the TdF - no spoiler
To: "craig austin"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:50 AM

Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of town (I live on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads overlap and block the broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet Versus allows Comcast to run adds for a fee. In fact, the ad that blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was an add for Comcast itself.
Scott

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin wrote:

While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of the network that's carrying the event.

Craig

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater wrote:

I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.

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Well, that doesn't appear to be true. Folks on the west side of town (I live
on the east side) did not see this ad. Also, the ads overlap and block the
broadcast - no official ad break. I'll bet Versus allows Comcast to run adds
for a fee. In fact, the ad that blocked the finish in yesterdays stage was
an add for Comcast itself.
Scott

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, craig austin wrote:

> While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with Versus,
> not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming, including
> commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other carrier. They
> just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of commercials are the
> responsibility of the network that's carrying the event.
>
> Craig
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater wrote:
>
>> I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the
>> finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly
>> unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.I've already earlier called
>> Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to
>> move to another carrier.
>>
>>
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joe cipale

Craig,

There are two forms of advertising: One is sold by Versus to pay for the
airing of such sports as the TdF (TIOOYK) and local adverts (Leif's, Dosha
come to mind) to pay for local rights/distribution.

I have yet to see the end of the race, so I have no idea who/what was
advertised. If you see the commercial, that will give you an idea as to who
sold the air time (national vs local).

Joe C

On Wednesday 08 July 2009 20:02, craig austin wrote:
> While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with Versus,
> not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming, including
> commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other carrier. They
> just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of commercials are the
> responsibility of the network that's carrying the event.
>
> Craig
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater
wrote:
> > I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the
> > finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly
> > unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.I've already earlier called
> > Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready
> > to move to another carrier.
> >
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david baker

Dish network's last commercial was at 7k to go. HD also. Directv could very well have been the same. There are commercial spots for carriers(cable and sat companies), that are not control by the network(versus).
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While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with Versus, not Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming, including commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other carrier. They just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of commercials are the responsibility of the network that's carrying the event.

Craig

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater wrote:

I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.
I've already earlier called Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to move to another carrier.

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That is correct, providers establish the breaks and send out the
message to the carrier to insert a commercial or they insert there
own. However, if you would like to blame Comcast go ahead, they are
the owners of Versus. Anyone interested in FiOS TV let me know, that
is if you live in an area that is served.

-Joe

Quoting craig austin :

> While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with Versus, not
> Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming, including
> commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other carrier. They
> just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of commercials are the
> responsibility of the network that's carrying the event.
>
> Craig
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater 
> wrote:
>
>> I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the
>> finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly
>> unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.I've already earlier called
>> Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to
>> move to another carrier.
>>
>>
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craig austin

While that's a legitimate beef, I believe the beef would be with Versus, not
Comcast. I'm sure DirecTV's broadcast of VS programming, including
commercials, is exactly the same as Comcast's, or any other carrier. They
just broadcast the stuff; programming and timing of commercials are the
responsibility of the network that's carrying the event.

Craig

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Scott Fitzwater wrote:

> I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the
> finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly
> unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.I've already earlier called
> Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to
> move to another carrier.
>
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Scott Fitzwater

I freaking can't believe that Comcast stuffed in another ad right at the
finish of the live presentation of the TdF today. That is just incredibly
unbelievable! Completely missed the finish.I've already earlier called
Comcast about those irritating ads and they pleaded ignorance. I'm ready to
move to another carrier.