gschreckchat@comcast.net wrote:
“I believe that the rules should also require that you go off when your other competitors do in order to even the playing field.”
George (or anyone else) should feel free to propose such a rule. Currently there is no such rule.
Mike Murray
Well, I disagree, because I did not open registration to them except for the narrow category of racing for a time and no more. I made it clear that registration for them is for that non medal category only and not for any other category. It is not a State Championship category any more than the tandems are, although tandems are racing. They will not be listed by their racing category. Only their name and number will be listed and their number is only for the purpose of timing them. Their resutls will not be sent to OBRA for inclusion in their results. That means no BAR as well. I made it clear that this is their only accommodation, otherwise they stay home.
Otherwise it is not fair to the others as weather conditions change. I believe that the rules should also require that you go off when your other competitors do in order to even the playing field. Othersie there is a possible advantage. I lost a TT that Jerri did because she let Manning go at the end after it stopped raining and the sun came out, the temperature rose 20 degrees and the wind stopped. It was not fair, but it being Estacada I did not care much. It cannot be the case for a Championship.
The late registrants know the ground rules.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Candi Murray"
To: gschreckchat@comcast.net, "Evan Plews"
Cc: "Ivan C Meadors" , "mike mauch" , obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:17:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] TT partially open-sort of
all
It is a state championship. If you allow people to register then they are eligible for medals and their results count toward BAR. You have already opened the door on Day of Race registration, so you cannot close that now
An individual race does not get to make these rules, they are the organization's policy.
AND. I am not in charge, it is up to Kenji, I am just his humble assistant.
Candi
From: gschreckchat@comcast.net [mailto:gschreckchat@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:12 PM
To: Evan Plews
Cc: Candi Murray; Ivan C Meadors; mike.mauch@intel.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] TT partially open-sort of
Probably not unless Candi says otherwise as you will not be racing in your category. It really is up to Candi as I do not get involved in the BAR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Plews"
To: gschreckchat@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:08:58 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] TT partially open-sort of
Thanks,
Will the results count for the BAR?
Cheers,
Evan
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:38:02 +0000
From: gschreckchat@comcast.net
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] TT partially open-sort of
OK, apparently, we have a large number of people that seemed unable to register within or narrow two month window. It reminds me of a saying a procrating friend had: "so much to do, so much time to do it" I think we gave you too much time. Next year registration will be in a 24 hour period and I am sure everyone waits until the last minute will find it satisfying, as it will be the only way to register.
Now for the rules:
If you missed the deadline you can race as follows:
Show up before 8:30 (not 8:31)
Bring a waiver (best to bring one with you) and your payment
You will be penciled in at the end of the last rider
You will not be eligible for medals
I realize it is a long wait, but we cannot spare anyone to sit at the table all morning and the list needs to be gven to the officials before the event starts.
You are not eligible for medals becuase weather conditions can change and it is not fair to those who race at their proper time beciase they registered on time.
Not perfect , but better than nothing.
Also, the list was curt of by my poorly designed comcast e-mail system, so it will be sent in its entirely from someone who has a better e-mail provider.
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all
It is a state championship. If you allow people to register then they are
eligible for medals and their results count toward BAR. You have already
opened the door on Day of Race registration, so you cannot close that now
An individual race does not get to make these rules, they are the
organization's policy.
AND. I am not in charge, it is up to Kenji, I am just his humble
assistant.
Candi
_____
From: gschreckchat@comcast.net [mailto:gschreckchat@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:12 PM
To: Evan Plews
Cc: Candi Murray; Ivan C Meadors; mike.mauch@intel.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] TT partially open-sort of
Probably not unless Candi says otherwise as you will not be racing in your
category. It really is up to Candi as I do not get involved in the BAR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Plews"
To: gschreckchat@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:08:58 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] TT partially open-sort of
Thanks,
Will the results count for the BAR?
Cheers,
Evan
_____
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:38:02 +0000
From: gschreckchat@comcast.net
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] TT partially open-sort of
OK, apparently, we have a large number of people that seemed unable to
register within or narrow two month window. It reminds me of a saying a
procrating friend had: "so much to do, so much time to do it" I think we
gave you too much time. Next year registration will be in a 24 hour period
and I am sure everyone waits until the last minute will find it satisfying,
as it will be the only way to register.
Now for the rules:
If you missed the deadline you can race as follows:
Show up before 8:30 (not 8:31)
Bring a waiver (best to bring one with you) and your payment
You will be penciled in at the end of the last rider
You will not be eligible for medals
I realize it is a long wait, but we cannot spare anyone to sit at the table
all morning and the list needs to be gven to the officials before the event
starts.
You are not eligible for medals becuase weather conditions can change and it
is not fair to those who race at their proper time beciase they registered
on time.
Not perfect , but better than nothing.
Also, the list was curt of by my poorly designed comcast e-mail system, so
it will be sent in its entirely from someone who has a better e-mail
provider.
_____
NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here.
OK, apparently, we have a large number of people that seemed unable to register within or narrow two month window. It reminds me of a saying a procrating friend had: "so much to do, so much time to do it" I think we gave you too much time. Next year registration will be in a 24 hour period and I am sure everyone waits until the last minute will find it satisfying, as it will be the only way to register.
Now for the rules:
If you missed the deadline you can race as follows:
Show up before 8:30 (not 8:31)
Bring a waiver (best to bring one with you) and your payment
You will be penciled in at the end of the last rider
You will not be eligible for medals
I realize it is a long wait, but we cannot spare anyone to sit at the table all morning and the list needs to be gven to the officials before the event starts.
You are not eligible for medals becuase weather conditions can change and it is not fair to those who race at their proper time beciase they registered on time.
Not perfect , but better than nothing.
Also, the list was curt of by my poorly designed comcast e-mail system, so it will be sent in its entirely from someone who has a better e-mail provider.
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