Contact lenses & Mt.Bike racing

David & Sally Kerchinsky

2002-04-15

If your lenses still fog, use your spit and wipe it on the lenses on the inside

and that should cure it. It works for divers.



Can't someone invent wipers?



David



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The secret to using contacts in the mud is FENDERS! I raced sport at Big K

wearing contacts and removed my sport glasses by the top of the first climb

because they were fogged up. I had no problems with mud in my face and

eyes. See pics here http://www.themudzone.com/bike/ss4_12apr02.jpg

http://www.themudzone.com/bike/ss2_12apr02.jpg

I also added "bottle fenders" to help keep the muck off my bottle.



The front fender is a T.H.E. XC and the rear a Headlands Backscratcher with

an added mud flap.



You could also tell what color my jersey was at the finish unlike many

riders there.



Rain-X Does a great job of keeping mud from sticking to the outside of

lenses but does nothing to prevent fogging.



-Don, EWEB Windpower



Don Person - Race Director

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David & Sally Kerchinsky

2002-04-15

I have used RainX and it works well for the rain, not for the mud. It

also prevents your lenses from fogging up.



David



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Hey has anyone ever tried putting that teflon windsheild treatment

(I think it's called RainX) on their eyewear? I wonder if it'd help

the slop roll keep from accumlating...



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Don Person

2002-04-15

The secret to using contacts in the mud is FENDERS! I raced sport at Big K

wearing contacts and removed my sport glasses by the top of the first climb

because they were fogged up. I had no problems with mud in my face and

eyes. See pics here http://www.themudzone.com/bike/ss4_12apr02.jpg

http://www.themudzone.com/bike/ss2_12apr02.jpg

I also added "bottle fenders" to help keep the muck off my bottle.



The front fender is a T.H.E. XC and the rear a Headlands Backscratcher with

an added mud flap.



You could also tell what color my jersey was at the finish unlike many

riders there.



Rain-X Does a great job of keeping mud from sticking to the outside of

lenses but does nothing to prevent fogging.



-Don, EWEB Windpower



Don Person - Race Director

Cascade Cream Puff 100 mile Mt. Bike Race

http://www.puff100.com

cc-@puff100.com





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 Hey has anyone ever tried putting that teflon windsheild treatment

(I think it's called RainX) on their eyewear? I wonder if it'd help

the slop roll keep from accumlating...



-Erik



Big K is muddy when it has been sunny for 2 weeks straight! This years

Big

K was held in torrential rain. I was looking for the "stream" in the

middle

of every trail for the traction path, up hill as well as down. I am

still

fearing some sort of disease or parasite entering through my eyeballs,

as I

used a camelback and thought I was exempt from all the things you hear

about, coming from livestock poop. My eyes were so bloodshot after the

race, my little niece cried everytime I looked at her.



My comment to fellow racers at the start was, if you have contacts I

would

think you are in for some trouble. We were all in trouble. I was

wondering

just how one could keep riding with so much crap flying up into the

eyes!

It was an unbelievable race, really tough, really wet, super muddy.

There

was really nothing you could do to protect contacts in this race...just

too

much splashing up into the eyes.......



PT



 



Erik Voldengen

2002-04-15

Hey has anyone ever tried putting that teflon windsheild treatment

(I think it's called RainX) on their eyewear? I wonder if it'd help

the slop roll keep from accumlating...



-Erik



Chris Brandt

2002-04-15

Good subject.



I have been wearing corrective optics since a sudden change of vision in the

summer of 98. Since then, it took me quite a while to figure out the most

appropriate strategy to apply to each weather/course challenge. Having to

wear contacts greatly affected my bike racing abilities and confidence. I

found that it was difficult for me to control optical clarity and have

consistent vision. For the last 4 years, I have gradually learned a few

tricks here and there that make it a little better...



If the course starts out with dense pack riding through lots of runny mud

and water, you're pretty much screwed unless you are at the front and using

a front fender. If you're like me and can't stay at the front, then maybe

try wearing contacts and a pair of eye shielding glasses that will

temporarily provide relief until the next lap or feed zone. There you have

arranged to have another pair of clean lenses waiting to be swapped out for.

You can do this for as many laps or feed zones as there are, or as many

pairs of glasses that you have. You will need a friend there as well, whom

you must repay big time for the favor. Remember that the pack will spread

out soon after the start so it might actually work in your favor to chill

your pace at the start, then make up ground as the race progresses and the

group thins.



I personally only wear contacts (soft disposables) during very muddy races.

I also prefer to avoid those muddy races if I can. If Big K has been rained

on all week, it's going to be very sloppy.



If it's a very dusty mountain bike race, I absolutely cannot wear contacts.

I get major problems there, so I wear prescription glasses. Usually if it's

dusty, it's going to be sweaty which is another problem.



On courses that have slow, forested, and humid climbs (with lots of wind

protection), I have problems with fogging lenses. There are products out

there to help with the fog, but not always eliminating it. I have two

different types of prescription bike glasses. One pair is made by Briko with

a separate optical insert which clips inside and behind the tinted shield

lenses. These don't work as well as my prescription Oakley shields because

the Brikos have 4 lens surfaces to collect dust, sweat, and fog. The Oakleys

have made a big improvement for me.



Sometimes when I'm climbing and dealing with fog, I tilt the lenses down on

my nose to increase the airflow across the top, which helps de-fog too. Just

be careful about sweat dripping on the lenses from your helmet pads, which

brings up a whole other subject... This is a problem I am continually

dealing with, and am going to experiment a bit more with this year.



If you noticed the Paris-Roubaix racers wearing glasses, notice how clean

those lenses are. Notice how muddy their faces are behind and underneath

those same clean lenses. Obviously they were getting handed clean glasses by

their support crew. When their lenses get dirty, they always put them on

their helmet vents for sponsor's benefit.



I hope this "novel" may help someone out there. Good luck with your racing

and let me know if you learn any new tricks that I don't know of.



Chris Brandt

Team Collins





 From: Gil Ormerod <sd-@concentric.net>

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To: obra <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Contact lenses & Mt.Bike racing

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I'm still fairly new at Mt.Bike racing. At Big K I found myself

wondering, as mud and worse was splattered on my face, just how do other

racers manage all this crud in the eyes when wearing contact lenses? I

started the race wearing some non-corrective eyewear to keep the crud

out of my eyes, but these fogged up on me and I had to take them off.

They were getting pretty coated with mud anyway, so they probably

wouldn't have stayed on the whole race even without fogging up. Then I

rode bare faced, squinting through the worst of the mud, until a

mechanical, multiple crashes, and two flat tires convinced me that this

probably wasn't my day.



So, any other mt.bike racers wearing contacts out there? What do you do

during these early season mud-fests?



Thanks,



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geoff raynak

2002-04-15

i too did the big k

and made a big mistake

i left my glasses in the car

made an ever bigger mistake

did the second lap without going back to get them

finally had them on lap 3.

they definitely did help



there is always a fog issue ... especially when you are going uphill as slow

as i do...



as for what to do about mud during a race:

did anyone watch paris-roubaix?

that is the grand-daddy of muddy races, right?

so many of them don't wear glasses

BUT guess who did ... the lion of flanders



take a look at this pict:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2002/apr02/roubaix/index.php?id=AFPmuseeuw

michael



that's all you need to know, imho

if your glasses get covered, become a librarian until you can clean them



g



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Blink. A lot. Whether you wear contacts or not, a race like the Big K is

going to hurt your eyes, because no protective eyewear would've lasted more

than a mile or so. Everyone I talked to after the race had some serious

bloodshot eyes going. One thing I'll do from now on is bring LOTS of contact

solution and eyewash, and flush my eyes out after the race. Probably also

use straight water instead of Gatorade in the camelbak so I can flush during

the race.



Craig



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I'm still fairly new at Mt.Bike racing. At Big K I found myself

wondering, as mud and worse was splattered on my face, just how do other

racers manage all this crud in the eyes when wearing contact lenses? I

started the race wearing some non-corrective eyewear to keep the crud

out of my eyes, but these fogged up on me and I had to take them off.

They were getting pretty coated with mud anyway, so they probably

wouldn't have stayed on the whole race even without fogging up. Then I

rode bare faced, squinting through the worst of the mud, until a

mechanical, multiple crashes, and two flat tires convinced me that this

probably wasn't my day.



So, any other mt.bike racers wearing contacts out there? What do you do

during these early season mud-fests?



Thanks,



Gil Ormerod



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tfa-@earthlink.net

2002-04-15

Do not use tap water...especially from a CamelBak where bacteria love to

live.

Use over the counter sterile tear formula eye drops or eye wash and flush

eyes

out well after the race. Remove the contact lenses and rinse those as well.

Tap water harbors bacteria

and can sit under the lenses and create havoc with your corneas. Do not rub

your eyes with the lenses

in, the mud grit can cause a scratched cornea and lead to something worse.



If you are wearing Gas Permeable lenses, it is alright to use tap water as

these lenses allow oxygen

to the cornea and bacteria is much less likely to live.



Also, for the bloodshot eyes do not use "Get the Red Out" drops which are a

vasoconstrictor

and very harmful to your eyes.

-Tracy





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Date: 4/15/2002 2:51:00 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Contact lenses & Mt.Bike racing




Blink. A lot. Whether you wear contacts or not, a race like the Big K is


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I'm still fairly new at Mt.Bike racing. At Big K I found myself


wondering, as mud and worse was splattered on my face, just how do other


racers manage all this crud in the eyes when wearing contact lenses? I


started the race wearing some non-corrective eyewear to keep the crud


out of my eyes, but these fogged up on me and I had to take them off.


They were getting pretty coated with mud anyway, so they probably


wouldn't have stayed on the whole race even without fogging up. Then I


rode bare faced, squinting through the worst of the mud, until a


mechanical, multiple crashes, and two flat tires convinced me that this


probably wasn't my day.




So, any other mt.bike racers wearing contacts out there? What do you do


during these early season mud-fests?




Thanks,




Gil Ormerod




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Craig Austin

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Blink. A lot. Whether you wear contacts or not, a race like the Big K is

going to hurt your eyes, because no protective eyewear would've lasted more

than a mile or so. Everyone I talked to after the race had some serious

bloodshot eyes going. One thing I'll do from now on is bring LOTS of contact

solution and eyewash, and flush my eyes out after the race. Probably also

use straight water instead of Gatorade in the camelbak so I can flush during

the race.



Craig



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I'm still fairly new at Mt.Bike racing. At Big K I found myself

wondering, as mud and worse was splattered on my face, just how do other

racers manage all this crud in the eyes when wearing contact lenses? I

started the race wearing some non-corrective eyewear to keep the crud

out of my eyes, but these fogged up on me and I had to take them off.

They were getting pretty coated with mud anyway, so they probably

wouldn't have stayed on the whole race even without fogging up. Then I

rode bare faced, squinting through the worst of the mud, until a

mechanical, multiple crashes, and two flat tires convinced me that this

probably wasn't my day.



So, any other mt.bike racers wearing contacts out there? What do you do

during these early season mud-fests?



Thanks,



Gil Ormerod



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Gil Ormerod

2002-04-15

I'm still fairly new at Mt.Bike racing. At Big K I found myself

wondering, as mud and worse was splattered on my face, just how do other

racers manage all this crud in the eyes when wearing contact lenses? I

started the race wearing some non-corrective eyewear to keep the crud

out of my eyes, but these fogged up on me and I had to take them off.

They were getting pretty coated with mud anyway, so they probably

wouldn't have stayed on the whole race even without fogging up. Then I

rode bare faced, squinting through the worst of the mud, until a

mechanical, multiple crashes, and two flat tires convinced me that this

probably wasn't my day.



So, any other mt.bike racers wearing contacts out there? What do you do

during these early season mud-fests?



Thanks,



Gil Ormerod