OBRA: OBRA Chat: WTB: 54cm Cross bike

Jaini and Greg

2011-09-20

Looking for a friend,
Complete bike in the $400-$700 range.

Augusto Carneiro

2009-12-10

Hello,

I'm interested in a 54cm CX bike. The lighter the better, and the newer the
better. Ideal model is the Specialized Tri-cross. Range in $500-$1,500 or
so. Thanks and please contact e-mail me directly: augusto@familyroast.com

Cheers,

Augusto
503.887.3686
Nossa Familia Coffee
www.familyroast.com

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Today's Topics:

1. Anne Knapp (Ormerod, Gilbert)
2. OT - need Trustworthy Auto Mechanic Portland or Beaverton
Area (C M)
3. STOLEN bike- Time VXRS Large (Jurgen Nebelung)
4. Re: OT - need Trustworthy Auto Mechanic Portland or Beaverton
Area (Erik Voldengen)
5. Re: OT - need Trustworthy Auto Mechanic Portland or Beaverton
Area (Per Bjesse)
6. FS: Sugoi Resistor Wind shoe cover (erik Haunold)
7. Bicycle for sale: 56cm Specialized Allez Comp (Dave Cowperthwaite)
8. lap times for usgp... (sean)
9. Re: USGP- So how did it go (Stephen Fitzgerald)
10. Photos: USGP Day 1, All Races (shane.young@comcast.net)
11. Re: snow in bend (Joel Metz)
12. Re: snow in bend (Ron and Dorothy Strasser)
13. Re: snow in bend (Joel Metz)
14. Re: snow in bend (Scott Jones)
15. Re: snow in bend (Rick Johnson)
16. USGP Stanley Portland Cup MyLaps.com chip times (Andrew)
17. Re: snow in bend (Mike Kerkmann)
18. USGP coverage and photo galleries (Pat Malach)
19. 40 below zero in bend (david baker)
20. If you missed BikeCraft V look here! (Brian)
21. CX NATS - Junior + U23 Racers Free Clinic 12/10 (Henry Abel)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:31:00 -0800
From: "Ormerod, Gilbert"
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Did anybody get any pictures of Anne Knapp this weekend? I wasn't able to
make it to the races, and was bummed to see that she was out there and I
missed it.

For those of you a bit newer to 'cross, Anne is the absolute nicest person
in the world, and the first great woman cyclocross racer from the US. If
you ever raced in Seattle back when she was racing, you've been cheered on
by Anne. She put as much effort into cheering ALL the other riders as she
would in destroying her competition in the women's race.

Here's a nice interview with her from 2004...

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/riders/2004/interviews/?id=ann_knapp04

Gil

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:09:09 -0800
From: C M
To: OBRA List
Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT - need Trustworthy Auto Mechanic Portland or
Beaverton Area
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Looking for a good, trustworthy, fair priced auto mechanic (domestic
vehicle) in the Portland/Beaverton Area - someone you have used for
auto services (not your cousin Vinny, unless he is really good and
trustworthy). Please reply off list

Thanks

Chris M

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Jurgen Nebelung
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] STOLEN bike- Time VXRS Large
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Hi all,

I'm asking our great collective cycling community to keep an eye out for my
race bike. This past Friday someone went into my shed and lifted my Time
VXRS road bike. I was home at the time working, saw the dude through my
windows and chased him, unfortunately he was able to ride away on the bike.
Please pass this on! Picture and flyer attached.

Thanks any help is greatly appreciated!
Jurgen
207-522-8341

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"STOLEN: Time VXRS 57cm, 2007, Carbon"

Carbon with red and white lettering.

*from NE Alberta & 60th
*on Friday 12/4/09

Reward if found.
Contact: 207-522-8341

Detailed Description:

*57 cm, carbon, short steerer tube
*Dura ace 7800 all around except for ultegra brake calipers

*120mm Richey comp stem
*Richey wcs bars
*fizik arione saddle
*powertap sl/ dt 1.1 rear wheel | dt 240/dt 1.1 front wheel

*one specialized bottle cage, one tacx tao cage

*overall big bike with sizeable drop from saddle to bars

*I have proof of ownership

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:06:15 -0800
From: Erik Voldengen
To: C M
Cc: OBRA List
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - need Trustworthy Auto Mechanic Portland
or Beaverton Area
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"All Automotive Repair" in Beaverton, owned by Sorin Suditu - 503-626-7654

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, C M wrote:

> Looking for a good, trustworthy, fair priced auto mechanic (domestic
> vehicle) in the Portland/Beaverton Area - someone you have used for
> auto services (not your cousin Vinny, unless he is really good and
> trustworthy). Please reply off list
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris M
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:13 -0800
From: Per Bjesse
To: Erik Voldengen
Cc: OBRA List
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - need Trustworthy Auto Mechanic Portland
or Beaverton Area
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Two thumbs up for Sorin. He has helped us with service for our Subaru
for several years, and an ancient crappy Ford truck before that. He is
great!
Regards,
-Per

2009/12/7 Erik Voldengen :
> "All Automotive Repair" in Beaverton, owned by Sorin Suditu - 503-626-7654
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, C M wrote:
>>
>> Looking for a good, trustworthy, fair priced auto mechanic (domestic
>> vehicle) in the Portland/Beaverton Area - someone you have used for
>> auto services (not your cousin Vinny, unless he is really good and
>> trustworthy). ?Please reply off list
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris M
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:34:40 -0800
From: erik Haunold
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: Sugoi Resistor Wind shoe cover
Message-ID: <4b1d8300686df_329f40e2d90d01024d@lizard.obra.org.tmail>
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Brand new, still in package, never used. size medium. water & wind
resistant. $20

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:43:16 -0800
From: Dave Cowperthwaite
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bicycle for sale: 56cm Specialized Allez Comp
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Forwarding for a friend who is selling one of his bikes on Craigslist:
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/1499558879.html
please contact him through the ad or directly by phone

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I have a Specialized Allez Comp 56CM that I'm asking $800 for.

DuraAce 9sp shifters
DuraAce Dual Crank 53/39
DuraAce BB
DuraAce FD
DuraAce RD
DuraAce 9sp Cassette 27/12
Ultegra calipers front and rear
Mavic Open Pro wheels with Ultegra hubs
simple bike computer

What doesn't come with the bike is: (These will be going back on my old
training bike:-) sorry)
pedals
air pump
tool bag
garmin GPS
bike trainer

If you have any questions please give me a call Jeff
503-------369--------8304
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:23:33 -0800
From: sean
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] lap times for usgp...
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do we get to see these lap times for the races?

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:44:24 -0800
From: Stephen Fitzgerald
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: 'obra'
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] USGP- So how did it go
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I thought it was the best day on a bike since the Saturday Astoria race.
The weather was great for the pre-ride on Friday and the race on
Saturday was pure unfiltered fun. The course was fantastic and had
something for everyone. My favorite parts were the off-camber wipeout
sections in the woods. I ate it many times myself, but managed to wiggle
around a few guys in there.

It was also great to see all my old homies who had upgraded from B to A
come back down to B for a little romp. Good to see you guys again! You
are still faster than me!

-sf

Candi Murray wrote:
> I had to work. Someone write a recap. How did your race go?
>
> Candi
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:00:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: shane.young@comcast.net
To: obra
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Photos: USGP Day 1, All Races
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Our photos from day 1 have been posted.? Thank you to Cyclepath for
sponsoring us once again.?

Enjoy,

Shane

http://www.oregonvelo.com/blog/2009/12/8/usgp-of-cyclocross-the-stanley-cup.
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:08:01 -0800 (PST)
From: "Joel Metz"
To: "david baker"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
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they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!

this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!

-joel

> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more coming
> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow off
> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.

--
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magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
==
i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
after she got that bicycle...

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:43:29 -0800
From: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
To: , "david baker"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
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Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some (which

it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some melting) then

re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an area that is
swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be very different

than packed down inch or two. Both offer challenges. If it is dry snow and

there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some. Whatever they do with

the course should be just fine. I am looking forward to cold temps and
trying to stay vertical. A big thanks to all the folks in Bend helping make

this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. We are fortunate to
be able to participate in this event here at home.
ron
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From: "Joel Metz"
To: "david baker"
Cc:
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend

> they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!
>
> this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!
>
> -joel
>
>> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more coming
>> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow off
>> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
>
>
>
> --
> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
> magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
> ==
> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
> after she got that bicycle...
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:50:01 -0800 (PST)
From: "Joel Metz"
To: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
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amen to all of that - i may yearn for the most masochistic course
possible, but im just stoked to race nats for the first time in 10 years
(and hopefully, not choke!!)

-joel

> Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some
> (which
> it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some melting)
> then
> re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an area that is
> swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be very
> different
> than packed down inch or two. Both offer challenges. If it is dry snow
> and
> there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some. Whatever they do
> with
> the course should be just fine. I am looking forward to cold temps and
> trying to stay vertical. A big thanks to all the folks in Bend helping
> make
> this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. We are fortunate to
> be able to participate in this event here at home.
> ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joel Metz"
> To: "david baker"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
>
>
>> they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!
>>
>> this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!
>>
>> -joel
>>
>>> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more
>>> coming
>>> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow
>>> off
>>> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
>> magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
>> ==
>> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
>> after she got that bicycle...
>>
>>
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magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
==
i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
after she got that bicycle...

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:51:01 -0800
From: Scott Jones
To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
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Kind of reminds me of Nationals a few years ago in Rhode Island. I just
doubt that there is an overnight blizzard to deal with, but you never know.

I can say that the ground can change from race to race as it warms. One
corner can be iffy one race and great the next. Gotta love cross and how
things change so fast on course.

-Scott

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ron and Dorothy Strasser <
rondot@spiritone.com> wrote:

> Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some
> (which it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some
> melting) then re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an
> area that is swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be
> very different than packed down inch or two. Both offer challenges. If
it
> is dry snow and there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some.
> Whatever they do with the course should be just fine. I am looking
forward
> to cold temps and trying to stay vertical. A big thanks to all the folks
in
> Bend helping make this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input.
We
> are fortunate to be able to participate in this event here at home.
> ron
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Metz"
> To: "david baker"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
>
>
>
> they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!
>>
>> this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!
>>
>> -joel
>>
>> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more
coming
>>> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow
off
>>> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
>> magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
>> ==
>> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
>> after she got that bicycle...
>>
>>
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:51:38 -0800
From: Rick Johnson
To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
Message-ID: <4B1DCD4A.7000901@gmail.com>
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Currently the snow on the ground here makes even popcorn seem mushy.
It's so dry it can be mixed with the dust (and I'm not joking about that).

The temp got all the way up to 9 degrees for a short time today. Right
now it's just bit under 3 degrees.

Rick

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction...
One, it's completely impossible.
Two, it's possible, but it's not worth doing.
Three, I said it was a good idea all along.

Arthur C. Clarke

Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote:
> Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some
> (which it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some
> melting) then re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than
> an area that is swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow
> will be very different than packed down inch or two. Both offer
> challenges. If it is dry snow and there is some wind, it may
> self-sweep and drift some. Whatever they do with the course should be
> just fine. I am looking forward to cold temps and trying to stay
> vertical. A big thanks to all the folks in Bend helping make this
> happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. We are fortunate to
> be able to participate in this event here at home.
> ron
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Metz"
> To: "david baker"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
>
>
>> they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!
>>
>> this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!
>>
>> -joel
>>
>>> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more
>>> coming
>>> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the
>>> snow off
>>> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
>> magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
>> ==
>> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
>> after she got that bicycle...
>>
>>
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:55:31 -0800
From: Andrew
To: obra
Subject: [OBRA Chat] USGP Stanley Portland Cup MyLaps.com chip times
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Find Saturdays results at:
http://www.mylaps.com/results/showevent.jsp?id=496327
And Sunday results (not yet fully posted - C's are there right now) at:
http://www.mylaps.com/results/showevent.jsp?id=497027

--
Andy Wilson
Cross Crusader
US Gran Prix of Cyclocross
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:25:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Kerkmann
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
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I haven't been past the course since the snows flew, but?the shallow spots
in my yard?(on the west side near Shevlin Park) are 8 inches deep, with
drifts (there was a lot of wind? transport during the storm) over knee deep
in depressions and corners of the yard.
?
The dirt below is generally soft.? It could make for a fast frozen course if
the snow is cleared, or it could make for mud holes and frozen ruts if it
thaws and refreezes.?
?
It's Bend, there is no way to tell.? The storm wasn't expected to drop more
than a bit of dust, an inch max...? heck, Mt B only got one inch out of it
(from one end of town to the other, the range is 4 to 14 inches).?
?
If it ended up being 60 degrees this weekend, I'd be surprised, but the
cascades do funny things (my internal almanac says this winters snows are?3
weeks?early).?
?
Be prepared for EVERYTHING!? That said, Friday's temps should be around
freezing, and there is the possibility of more snow this weekend....
?
Cheers, Mike.
?
PS, if there is someone that is totally hosed with regards to a place to
stay, I may be able to put up a rider or 2 (spare room with a queen bed),
but I have to warn you that we have 2 young kids, and a chaotic life which
isn't ideal for someone that is serious about competing.
?

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Scott Jones wrote:

From: Scott Jones
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
To: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 7:51 PM

Kind of reminds me of Nationals a few years ago in Rhode Island. I just
doubt that there is an overnight blizzard to deal with, but you never know.

I can say that the ground can change from race to race as it warms. One
corner can be iffy one race and great the next. Gotta love cross and how
things change so fast on course.

-Scott

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ron and Dorothy Strasser
wrote:

Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some (which
it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some melting) then
re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an area that is
swept. ?An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be very different
than packed down inch or two. ?Both offer challenges. ?If it is dry snow and
there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some. ?Whatever they do with
the course should be just fine. ?I am looking forward to cold temps and
trying to stay vertical. ?A big thanks to all the folks in Bend helping make
this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. ?We are fortunate to
be able to participate in this event here at home.
ron
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To: "david baker"
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend

they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!

this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!

-joel

Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more coming
but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow off
the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.

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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:49:04 -0800
From: Pat Malach
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] USGP coverage and photo galleries
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You can find coverage and photo galleries of both USGP of Cyclocross Stanley
Portland Cup days @ http://oregon.cyclingaction.com/

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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:03:37 -0800
From: "david baker"
To: "Mike Kerkmann" ,
Subject: [OBRA Chat] 40 below zero in bend
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scroll down to the bottom and look through the weather stations, one is at
-40 another at -30

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=bend,or&wu
Select=WEATHER

Anyway this is a good site to see to the minute stuff around town. That west
ridge one is probably the closest to the race although it probably is a
couple hundred feet higher.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Kerkmann
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend

I haven't been past the course since the snows flew, but the shallow
spots in my yard (on the west side near Shevlin Park) are 8 inches deep,
with drifts (there was a lot of wind transport during the storm) over knee
deep in depressions and corners of the yard.

The dirt below is generally soft. It could make for a fast frozen
course if the snow is cleared, or it could make for mud holes and frozen
ruts if it thaws and refreezes.

It's Bend, there is no way to tell. The storm wasn't expected to
drop more than a bit of dust, an inch max... heck, Mt B only got one inch
out of it (from one end of town to the other, the range is 4 to 14 inches).

If it ended up being 60 degrees this weekend, I'd be surprised, but
the cascades do funny things (my internal almanac says this winters snows
are 3 weeks early).

Be prepared for EVERYTHING! That said, Friday's temps should be
around freezing, and there is the possibility of more snow this weekend....

Cheers, Mike.

PS, if there is someone that is totally hosed with regards to a
place to stay, I may be able to put up a rider or 2 (spare room with a queen
bed), but I have to warn you that we have 2 young kids, and a chaotic life
which isn't ideal for someone that is serious about competing.

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Scott Jones wrote:

From: Scott Jones
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
To: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 7:51 PM

Kind of reminds me of Nationals a few years ago in Rhode Island. I
just doubt that there is an overnight blizzard to deal with, but you never
know.

I can say that the ground can change from race to race as it
warms. One corner can be iffy one race and great the next. Gotta love cross
and how things change so fast on course.

-Scott

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ron and Dorothy Strasser
wrote:

Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts
some (which it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some
melting) then re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an
area that is swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be
very different than packed down inch or two. Both offer challenges. If it
is dry snow and there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some.
Whatever they do with the course should be just fine. I am looking forward
to cold temps and trying to stay vertical. A big thanks to all the folks in
Bend helping make this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. We
are fortunate to be able to participate in this event here at home.
ron
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Metz"
To: "david baker"
Cc:
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend

they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE
COURSE?!??!

this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!

-joel

Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's
no more coming
but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep
the snow off
the course but you might want to bring your trainer for
workouts.

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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:01:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian
To: "obra@list.obra.org"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] If you missed BikeCraft V look here!
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VeloGioielli.etsy.com. Etsy.com has a few of the local vendors that were at
BCV. Since there was great response at the show I cut the ribbon on my own
store. My mother has also been inspired and together we have made bikey
jewelry from upcycled bike parts such as chain, cable, innertubes and
spokes. This all comes from my cycling passion and hope it comes through in
our work. Please visit the shop at www.VeloGioielli.etsy.com.

Happy Holidays and enjoy the cold but dry weather.

Brian

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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:28:19 -0800
From: Henry Abel
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] CX NATS - Junior + U23 Racers Free Clinic 12/10
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CX Nats: Junior + U23 Racers Free Clinic

Racers and their families are invited to our free Junior Development Clinic
which will be held at WebCyclery during Cross Nationals. Hear from the
coaches and top riders from Team Clif Bar, Salsa, Pedros, and Bend Endurance
Academy.

Thursday December 10th at 4:30PM.

Follow this link for directions to the store, or call us at 541-318-6188...

http://www.webcyclery.com/pages.php?pageid=3&mode=preview

Henry@WebCyclery.com

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Emilia

2009-09-23

New to CCX, looking for a bike <$1,000. Would consider single speed. Sized 54cm for a Bianchi or a Kona, more like 50 - 52 for Cannondale.
Excited to try this crazy sport!!