Sarah Tisdale
It is not my "wish". Simply a guess as to what I think most people will do.
Sarah
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jess Mace wrote:
> Seems to me that the problem lies in the attitude of individuals who do not think they should
> Have to make a "concerted effort" in any given circumstance.
> You may get what you wish for in the closure if the attitude doesn't change.
>
>
> How hard is it to actually hold your brake lever and slow down for 0.8 miles? (distance from top to bottom)
>
> Jess Mace, MPH, CCRP
> Clinical Outcomes Research - Oregon Sinus Center
> Department of Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery
> Oregon Health & Science University
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Tisdale
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:10 PM
> To: obra
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bike Ban Considered for River View Cemetary
>
> Should cyclists *always* be riding under 15mph in the cemetery? That
> hill is pretty dang steep. Any cyclist will have to make a concerted
> effort to keep it under 15 all the way down. Or, are we saying that
> when funerals are in progress or mourners are around, cyclists should
> show respect (ride slowly, avoid the funeral procession, perhaps even
> get off and wait for them to pass).
>
> The former is unlikely. If that's the expectation, they may as well
> close the route to bikes now. If it's the latter, I think that's
> probably do-able.
>
> Perhaps they could close it only to downhill bikes? Downhill on
> Taylor's Ferry might not be so bad.
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Joe Cipale wrote:
>> Let me see, in the course of a typical commute/bike ride, I will encounter:
>> ~ a family where the kids have helmets, the parents do not.
>> ~ A bike rider riding AGAINST traffic
>> ~ A bike rider running not just a stop sign, but a stop light.
>> ~ A bike rider ignoring energency vehicle sirens
>> ~ A bike rider riding in excess of walking speed on a sidewalk
>> ~ A bike rider doing there best to get killed at any given time by riding like a dip-wad.
>>
>> So yeah... it is the one or two bike riders who give cyclists a bad rap. And yes, they are the ones that the public sees.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Scott Jones wrote:
>>
>>> I would look around a little more at the people on bicycles, I think its
>>> more than "a few adolescent males...giving everyone who rides a bicycle a
>>> bad rap." Unfortunately when people don't follow the law/rules or think they
>>> are above being courteous to others, especially in a cemetery, this is what
>>> happens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Michael O'Hair wrote:
>>>
>>> > The Portland Tribune had an article on the problems the cemetary was having
>>> > with cyclists. If even half the allegations are true, I'm surprised that
>>> > they haven't posted guards packing shotguns loaded with rock salt.
>>> >
>>> > As usual, a few adolescent males of various ages and genders are giving
>>> > everyone who rides a bicycle a bad rap.
>>> >
>>> > Note that there have been many attempts in the past to close the cemetary
>>> > down and turn it into a development. It was built when the area was a rural
>>> > backwater. Now that the city has engulfed it, it's just a matter of time.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Cipale"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Curt Dewees wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Dammit! I guess we knew this was coming ...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_100109_news_cemetery_bikes_river_view.1d5ae13e9.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> CD
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> After reading the so-called 'comments' to this story, I am lead to no
>>> >> other conclusion that the majority of PDX residents are just plain
>>> >> jackasses.
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