david baker

Yeah,
It's not ALL marketing. Nascar is not selling a box of rocks,ehh? And drag
racing in surround sound!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Kirchoff"
To: "Rick C Johnson"
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] the silent majority has given me more proof:
CrossNOT Bike Racing

> This could be solved if bike racers simply caught on fire when crashing.
> People would flock to watch the sport.
>
> Max Kirchoff
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
> On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Rick C Johnson
> wrote:
>
>> 15,000 other people? You vastly underestimate NASCARs popularity. An
>> event where that few of people show up is called a practice session.
>> I wish bicycle racing was half as successful in promoting itself as
>> NASCAR. Imagine having live flag to flag TV coverage of every national
>> event, purses that cover more than entry and transportation cost.
>> Regular people passionate enough about our sport to put rider stickers
>> in their windows. Salaries - both riders and officials - actually above
>> the poverty level. Kids dreaming of growing up to be a profession
>> bicycle racer.
>>
>> Yea, NASCAR is dumb alright...
>>
>> Rick Johnson
>> Bend, Oregon
>>
>> "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" -
>> George Santayana
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Rosenfeld wrote:
>>
>>> Keeping the Mike theme going here.
>>>
>>> Actually Nascar makes more sense than cyclocross. And the gene pool is
>>> so much bigger... literally and figuratively. You only have to turn
>>> left. It isasier for the spectators to watch, they get to pack in with
>>> 15,000 other people and share the experience in the 100 degree sun.
>>> Driving those motorized coolers from your car to the stands is always
>>> fun as well. Heat stroke you say? Naa...just drink another Budweiser
>>> to rehydrate. Do they make a helmet mount for two beers and a giant
>>> novelty straw?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Mike Kerkmann >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you considered switching to Curling? It's an "olympic"
>>> event, and therefore truly and legitimately international (cycling
>>> is really a euro thing and we're just wannabe's, trying to be
>>> cool. That's why the TdF is still in France... Monaco and Spain
>>> got tastes this year, but did the US? Does anyone in Europe watch
>>> races that are held in the US?).
>>> If you turned curl master, you wouldn't have to share your gene
>>> pool with those of us that are silly enough to shave our legs, and
>>> ride around in circles downtown or through a dairy field in the
>>> rain or down alleys on fixed gears or dual slalom (those guys
>>> spend so much time in the air, it can't be bicycle racing either).
>>>
>>> Where's Joe Stark when we need him to sort these dilemmas out?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 10/6/09, rick hammel />> >/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: rick hammel >
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] the silent majority has given me more
>>> proof: Cross NOT Bike Racing
>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:12 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess Stairmasters are no different then rollers now. . . .
>>> judging by the white washed walls, this pic must be from
>>> Greece or something. maybe they do do cross in europe. i'd be
>>> so embarassed if this was happening in Oregon.
>>>
>>>
>>> Further proof that 'cross is NOT bike racing...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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