a negative into a positive

Sami Fournier

2009-11-03

Saying we don't have a 3-foot law in Oregon mis-states the actual regulation a bit, as we have an even better law.  See below for the facts, and pass them on to relay in the driver's meeting.

Oregon:

Like most states, Oregon has a law that requires general safe passing

distance. It also has the following:

SB 108 passed in 2007. The resulting bill created a safe passing

distance geared primarily for non-urban cycling conditions. SB 108

creates the offense of unsafe passing of a bicycle and other

improvements:

*       Safe passing distance means distance that is sufficient to

prevent contact with the person operating the bicycle if the person were

to fall into the driver's lane of traffic.

* Exceptions include if a bicycle is in a bike lane, if the driver is

going less than 35 mph, and when cyclists are turning left and the

motorist is overtaking on the right. In these exception cases, ORS

811.410 still applies stating a vehicle that is overtaking any other

vehicle proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left at a

safe distance.

*       Drivers may drive to the left of the center of a roadway to

safely pass a bicycle if it is unobstructed for sufficient distance to

permit the driver to pass the person safely and avoid interference with

oncoming traffic.

*       Legalizes pace line cycling by limiting the offense of

"following too closely" to motor vehicles.

We were happy with this bill because we felt:

a. the in urban areas and at lower speeds passing distance was not a

primary issue in Oregon.

b. in higher speed areas, especially where trucks and larger vehicles

are present, that 3-feet is not adequate. The law that we passed

requires significantly more than 3-feet in those areas.

--- On Tue, 11/3/09, kellie wrote:

From: kellie
Subject: [OBRA Chat] a negative into a positive
To: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 1:08 PM

For those of you who commented on my post about a week ago regarding  the "3 foot law" ( which we don't have in Oregon) that protects cyclists, the owner of the company sent me this e-mail this morning. Thanks to Ray Thomas for offering his assistance to me, and thanks for your e-mails regarding ORS 811.065.
Bruce Parker ( owner of Parker Concrete) sent me this e-mail today.

Good morning Kellie.
 
 
After speaking with both you and our driver, I’ve decided to take a negative and turn it to a positive as much as possible.  To do this, I could use some help from you – some information.
 
I am going to have a drivers meeting Friday morning to go over safety issues and this will be one of the topics.  Please let me know by Thursday the things you think should be covered.  We know the obvious things like pedestrians and bikes may not always be easy to see but on top of that, the things that are a concern that us in the non-bicycle community may need to pay more attention to.
 
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you but, help us make something good of it.
 
Thank you,
 
Bruce Parker
 
 
 

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Kevin

2009-11-03

Good opportunity for you Kellie,

You are well aware of the points I'm sure but here's some of what I would offer to Bruce if I were in your shoes.

Beyond what cyclists "should do", (lights, bright clothes, signal, etc)

Drivers should:

1) remember that vehicles cause a draft that can destabilize a bike and cause them to fall into/under you.
        Pass with plenty of room!

2) remember that bikes often travel faster than you expect them to.  If you passed one recently and      
        are now planning on turning right don't do it until you SEE the bike and know their position.

3) Be aware of bike lanes. Never cross or turn across one without verifying that a bike isn't in the lane.

4) above all, remember that by following careful and smart driving the life that is saved might be that of their kids or grandkids.

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From: kellie
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 10:08:26 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] a negative into a positive

For those of you who commented on my post about a week ago regarding  the "3 foot law" ( which we don't have in Oregon) that protects cyclists, the owner of the company sent me this e-mail this morning. Thanks to Ray Thomas for offering his assistance to me, and thanks for your e-mails regarding ORS 811.065.
Bruce Parker ( owner of Parker Concrete) sent me this e-mail today.

Good morning Kellie.
 
 
After speaking with both you and our driver, I’ve decided to take a negative and turn it to a positive as much as possible.  To do this, I could use some help from you – some information.
 
I am going to have a drivers meeting Friday morning to go over safety issues and this will be one of the topics.  Please let me know by Thursday the things you think should be covered.  We know the obvious things like pedestrians and bikes may not always be easy to see but on top of that, the things that are a concern that us in the non-bicycle community may need to pay more attention to.
 
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you but, help us make something good of it.
 
Thank you,
 
Bruce Parker
 
 
 

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kellie

2009-11-03

For those of you who commented on my post about a week ago regarding the "3 foot law" ( which we don't have in Oregon) that protects cyclists, the owner of the company sent me this e-mail this morning. Thanks to Ray Thomas for offering his assistance to me, and thanks for your e-mails regarding ORS 811.065.
Bruce Parker ( owner of Parker Concrete) sent me this e-mail today.

Good morning Kellie.
 
 
After speaking with both you and our driver, I’ve decided to take a negative and turn it to a positive as much as possible.  To do this, I could use some help from you – some information.
 
I am going to have a drivers meeting Friday morning to go over safety issues and this will be one of the topics.  Please let me know by Thursday the things you think should be covered.  We know the obvious things like pedestrians and bikes may not always be easy to see but on top of that, the things that are a concern that us in the non-bicycle community may need to pay more attention to.
 
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you but, help us make something good of it.
 
Thank you,
 
Bruce Parker