Stephen Fitzgerald

Beer should only be thrown at people who can't figure out how to get the
old sticker off their OBRA card.

I'm a boring guy and wouldn't have dressed up if it weren't for the
threats from the crowd. I'm glad that incentive was there to get me out
of my stuffy bikeracer shell. All it took was a wig and a clown's nose
not to get heckled. The nose even fell off on lap 1.

There are definitely different opinions about beer/cross, but I think
its a good thing to have at least one race a year where people can get
crazy (perhaps sans-spitting?). I knew that /one /day of Astoria would
be more party than race, and thats the day I invited all of my non-cross
friends to as well as my wife and two toddlers. Everyone had a blast
with the rowdy crowd, the costumes, the coffins, etc, and I heard many
comments on how cross looked like such a cool (non-uptight) community to
get into.

palm615@comcast.net

It's obvious from all the discussion that the real culprit was the costumes! If no one had been in costume, the non costumed riders would not have been targeted as being different.

Ban the costumes! Save the beer!

Dave

(Be careful AC, Adult and Family services are probably on their way to your house to rescue your kids)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fergus"
To: "Matthew Case"
Cc: "zak List"
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2009 10:30:19 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Beer and Juniors

Alt-frat?

On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Matthew Case wrote:

Lots of good points on all sides here.  I personally would be very disappointed if 'Cross became a dry sport, it's the last of the disciplines that have a festival atmosphere and it would be sad to see it go away.

The beer tossing situation in Astoria, for better of worse, is a product of the number of dry venues on the calendar as well as the general feeling of "dress up or get the smack down".  That being said, I think it's completely unreasonable to throw any object at anyone on a bike, ever.  It's ridiculous to subject Juniors to beer throwing at all, they're kids, not adults, and I strongly censure anyone causing any of those kids grief.  It's also disgusting to spit anything at a racer, the communicable disease issue is a real one, made even more real by the H1N1 situation right now.

In conclusion, beer at races can be reasonable and fun.  Throwing objects is BS, verbally and physically abusing Juniors is BS, spitting is disgusting and BS.  Beer throwing is generally saved for non-costumed racers at Astoria and most anyone doing that race should have recognized that.  For now, let's just drink the beer, yell and cheer, race without fear, for the rest of the year.  Thanks folks.

Matt Case

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Jim Walker < walkerjim@verizon.net > wrote:

I think it is important to be good to my children.

Someday they will be picking out the Nursing Home I go into.

Jim

11/05/2009 10:58 PM
>From Aaron Coker < coker..@hotmail.com >

I don't know what the big deal is. I get drunk and spit on my kids all the time in the comfort of my own home.
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