Look Quartz MTB pedals, anyone use these?

Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2010-08-06

Maximillian's last sentence sums up my feeling of the Looks. I have a pair of 1st generation I use on my rain bike and they are fine for that. I am sure the 2nd generation are better, but the first allowed unwanted disengagement. Brian Johnson is about right. I have several pair of Time ATAC. My oldest pair (little over 5 years) have been ridden many miles and in very nasty conditions on cross and mtn. bikes. I just used them at the Westview short track and noticed both have some play on the bearings/spindle. Maybe need a little love. You all know I think highly of these pedals. I also have a couple pair of the heavy aluminum Time pedals that are anchors, but built like a tank. I just have never had a problem. One person in my cross cat. uses the top of the line pedal with the ti spindle and carbon platform (290something grams). I pretty much just use the middle model that runs around 330grams. I view these pedals in a similar light as I view my Chris King products. They will give me years of dependable service with very little foo-foo.
ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Maximillian Kirchoff
To: OBRA
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Look Quartz MTB pedals, anyone use these?

In RE to my original query, I ended up buying a pair of the second generation LOOK Quartz pedals. They do have a lower Q-factor - making my wide feet too close to my crank arms and chain-stays. And while they come with many spacers and a couple different cleats, they never mounted correctly to my Shimano MTB shoes and mounted "okay" to my SIDI Doms.

I tested mud shedding a bit and it was "meh"

All in all, they were decent, but not what I would consider a competitor to the ATAC pedals I normally ride.

______________{ :)
Max Kirchoff
(503) 770-0629
http://www.bikeyourself.com
http://www.maxisnow.com

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:02 PM, john wrote:

I just saw this review here...
http://www.bikefix.net/2010/01/bikefix-exclusive-review-look-quartz.html

The new Crank Brothers Candy is a fairly nice pedal. and it appears
as they redesigned the eggbeater as well. The candy-3 is ~$100, is
on needle bearings and has nice solid feel. it spins well. Since the
shoe sole to pedal interface is mostly flat the interface is a lot
stiffer then with the round body eggbeaters.

Getting full engagement with the Candy is a little harder though, on
first go off a stop, i have learned to double check engaged before i
really start pulling. Once engaged though (and given proper cleat
setup) the eggbeater is very secure pedal. It is impossible to
"accidently" come out of these pedals.

The ATAC is ok, but I don't like the lateral movement and the float
wasn't that good. The bearings and spindle are better on the Time.

I did have a spring break on a eggbeater once... This latest re-design
probably helped with this, they seemed to have done a quality
re-design. so any way I really like the new Candy pedals. A great
replacement for the very flexy Quarttro, and magnitudes better quality
than the old plastic Candy. They also made the spindle shorter so no
longer have to chamfer....
[ http://bikeeng.blogspot.com/2009/05/chamfer-pedal-and-crank.html ]

The only issue i have had is that when I did take them apart after a
summer of riding i noticed one Needle bearing had slide in the pedal
body. Some Locitite fixed this. I also noticed just a bit of surface
wear / issue on the pedal spindle where the needles run...
Note not all the new eggbeaters use needle, some still use bushings.

--
jms, pe pdx, or
http://bikeeng.blogspot.com/

ot had one break on
> me yet but I've never been very happy that they used plastic bushings in
> place of an inboard bearing. I understand the 2010/2011 Eggbeaters now use
> full bearings so I'm still on the fence about switching to Time pedals or
> sticking with Eggbeaters and "upgrading" to the new pedals. I know that Ron
> Strasser will get a kick out of that as he's probably using the same set of
> Time ATAC pedals for the past few years and has yet to service them! :)
> A new pedal is a new pedal-- the only problem with switching is having to go
> through cleat position setup again. I also have two pair of Eggbeaters
> awaiting rebuilding.
> Brian J.
>
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Devin Flynn wrote:
>
> So anyone tried these lately? Still the same issue? I broke another
> eggbeater pedal and I am considering a change. Considering Times as well.
> On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:27 AM, "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
> wrote:
>
> I have a pair of the first generation model. They tend to let your foot
> slip out of the cleat pedal interface. They supposedly redesigned the
> second generation to prevent that from taking place. My model and I
> understand the newer one as well you need to install shims as needed when
> putting cleat on shoe to provide optimum fit. All said, compared to my time
> atac.... they do not match up at all. Maybe the new ones would change my
> mind, but those are not what I am spending my $ on right now. I would like
> to hear opinions about the second generation pedals if anyone has used them
> enough to comment (as in this cross season). Mud, mounting and dismounting
> as well as how they hold up would be a good test.
>
> * * *
> My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"
> http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com
> My life as a Crossniac:
> www.crossniacs.com
>
>
>
>

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Devin Flynn

2010-08-05

For now I just warrantied the pedals. I may switch to Times. Looks don't seem to be the answer. I used the Time atac pedals during the 1990's. I liked them then.

On Aug 5, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Maximillian Kirchoff wrote:

> In RE to my original query, I ended up buying a pair of the second generation LOOK Quartz pedals. They do have a lower Q-factor - making my wide feet too close to my crank arms and chain-stays. And while they come with many spacers and a couple different cleats, they never mounted correctly to my Shimano MTB shoes and mounted "okay" to my SIDI Doms.
>
> I tested mud shedding a bit and it was "meh"
>
> All in all, they were decent, but not what I would consider a competitor to the ATAC pedals I normally ride.
>
>
> ______________{ :)
> Max Kirchoff
> (503) 770-0629
> http://www.bikeyourself.com
> http://www.maxisnow.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:02 PM, john wrote:
> I just saw this review here...
> http://www.bikefix.net/2010/01/bikefix-exclusive-review-look-quartz.html
>
> The new Crank Brothers Candy is a fairly nice pedal. and it appears
> as they redesigned the eggbeater as well. The candy-3 is ~$100, is
> on needle bearings and has nice solid feel. it spins well. Since the
> shoe sole to pedal interface is mostly flat the interface is a lot
> stiffer then with the round body eggbeaters.
>
> Getting full engagement with the Candy is a little harder though, on
> first go off a stop, i have learned to double check engaged before i
> really start pulling. Once engaged though (and given proper cleat
> setup) the eggbeater is very secure pedal. It is impossible to
> "accidently" come out of these pedals.
>
> The ATAC is ok, but I don't like the lateral movement and the float
> wasn't that good. The bearings and spindle are better on the Time.
>
> I did have a spring break on a eggbeater once... This latest re-design
> probably helped with this, they seemed to have done a quality
> re-design. so any way I really like the new Candy pedals. A great
> replacement for the very flexy Quarttro, and magnitudes better quality
> than the old plastic Candy. They also made the spindle shorter so no
> longer have to chamfer....
> [ http://bikeeng.blogspot.com/2009/05/chamfer-pedal-and-crank.html ]
>
> The only issue i have had is that when I did take them apart after a
> summer of riding i noticed one Needle bearing had slide in the pedal
> body. Some Locitite fixed this. I also noticed just a bit of surface
> wear / issue on the pedal spindle where the needles run...
> Note not all the new eggbeaters use needle, some still use bushings.
>
> --
> jms, pe pdx, or
> http://bikeeng.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ot had one break on
> > me yet but I've never been very happy that they used plastic bushings in
> > place of an inboard bearing. I understand the 2010/2011 Eggbeaters now use
> > full bearings so I'm still on the fence about switching to Time pedals or
> > sticking with Eggbeaters and "upgrading" to the new pedals. I know that Ron
> > Strasser will get a kick out of that as he's probably using the same set of
> > Time ATAC pedals for the past few years and has yet to service them! :)
> > A new pedal is a new pedal-- the only problem with switching is having to go
> > through cleat position setup again. I also have two pair of Eggbeaters
> > awaiting rebuilding.
> > Brian J.
> >
> > On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Devin Flynn wrote:
> >
> > So anyone tried these lately? Still the same issue? I broke another
> > eggbeater pedal and I am considering a change. Considering Times as well.
> > On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:27 AM, "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have a pair of the first generation model. They tend to let your foot
> > slip out of the cleat pedal interface. They supposedly redesigned the
> > second generation to prevent that from taking place. My model and I
> > understand the newer one as well you need to install shims as needed when
> > putting cleat on shoe to provide optimum fit. All said, compared to my time
> > atac.... they do not match up at all. Maybe the new ones would change my
> > mind, but those are not what I am spending my $ on right now. I would like
> > to hear opinions about the second generation pedals if anyone has used them
> > enough to comment (as in this cross season). Mud, mounting and dismounting
> > as well as how they hold up would be a good test.
> >
> > * * *
> > My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"
> > http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com
> > My life as a Crossniac:
> > www.crossniacs.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Maximillian Kirchoff

2010-08-05

In RE to my original query, I ended up buying a pair of the second
generation LOOK Quartz pedals. They do have a lower Q-factor - making my
wide feet too close to my crank arms and chain-stays. And while they come
with many spacers and a couple different cleats, they never mounted
correctly to my Shimano MTB shoes and mounted "okay" to my SIDI Doms.

I tested mud shedding a bit and it was "meh"

All in all, they were decent, but not what I would consider a competitor to
the ATAC pedals I normally ride.

______________{ :)
Max Kirchoff
(503) 770-0629
http://www.bikeyourself.com
http://www.maxisnow.com

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:02 PM, john wrote:

> I just saw this review here...
> http://www.bikefix.net/2010/01/bikefix-exclusive-review-look-quartz.html
>
> The new Crank Brothers Candy is a fairly nice pedal. and it appears
> as they redesigned the eggbeater as well. The candy-3 is ~$100, is
> on needle bearings and has nice solid feel. it spins well. Since the
> shoe sole to pedal interface is mostly flat the interface is a lot
> stiffer then with the round body eggbeaters.
>
> Getting full engagement with the Candy is a little harder though, on
> first go off a stop, i have learned to double check engaged before i
> really start pulling. Once engaged though (and given proper cleat
> setup) the eggbeater is very secure pedal. It is impossible to
> "accidently" come out of these pedals.
>
> The ATAC is ok, but I don't like the lateral movement and the float
> wasn't that good. The bearings and spindle are better on the Time.
>
> I did have a spring break on a eggbeater once... This latest re-design
> probably helped with this, they seemed to have done a quality
> re-design. so any way I really like the new Candy pedals. A great
> replacement for the very flexy Quarttro, and magnitudes better quality
> than the old plastic Candy. They also made the spindle shorter so no
> longer have to chamfer....
> [ http://bikeeng.blogspot.com/2009/05/chamfer-pedal-and-crank.html ]
>
> The only issue i have had is that when I did take them apart after a
> summer of riding i noticed one Needle bearing had slide in the pedal
> body. Some Locitite fixed this. I also noticed just a bit of surface
> wear / issue on the pedal spindle where the needles run...
> Note not all the new eggbeaters use needle, some still use bushings.
>
> --
> jms, pe pdx, or
> http://bikeeng.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ot had one break on
> > me yet but I've never been very happy that they used plastic bushings in
> > place of an inboard bearing. I understand the 2010/2011 Eggbeaters now
> use
> > full bearings so I'm still on the fence about switching to Time pedals or
> > sticking with Eggbeaters and "upgrading" to the new pedals. I know that
> Ron
> > Strasser will get a kick out of that as he's probably using the same set
> of
> > Time ATAC pedals for the past few years and has yet to service them! :)
> > A new pedal is a new pedal-- the only problem with switching is having to
> go
> > through cleat position setup again. I also have two pair of Eggbeaters
> > awaiting rebuilding.
> > Brian J.
> >
> > On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Devin Flynn wrote:
> >
> > So anyone tried these lately? Still the same issue? I broke another
> > eggbeater pedal and I am considering a change. Considering Times as well.
> > On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:27 AM, "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have a pair of the first generation model. They tend to let your foot
> > slip out of the cleat pedal interface. They supposedly redesigned the
> > second generation to prevent that from taking place. My model and I
> > understand the newer one as well you need to install shims as needed when
> > putting cleat on shoe to provide optimum fit. All said, compared to my
> time
> > atac.... they do not match up at all. Maybe the new ones would change my
> > mind, but those are not what I am spending my $ on right now. I would
> like
> > to hear opinions about the second generation pedals if anyone has used
> them
> > enough to comment (as in this cross season). Mud, mounting and
> dismounting
> > as well as how they hold up would be a good test.
> >
> > * * *
> > My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"
> > http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com
> > My life as a Crossniac:
> > www.crossniacs.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I just saw this review here...
http://www.bikefix.net/2010/01/bikefix-exclusive-review-look-quartz.html

The new Crank Brothers Candy is a fairly nice pedal. and it appears
as they redesigned the eggbeater as well. The candy-3 is ~$100, is
on needle bearings and has nice solid feel. it spins well. Since the
shoe sole to pedal interface is mostly flat the interface is a lot
stiffer then with the round body eggbeaters.

Getting full engagement with the Candy is a little harder though, on
first go off a stop, i have learned to double check engaged before i
really start pulling. Once engaged though (and given proper cleat
setup) the eggbeater is very secure pedal. It is impossible to
"accidently" come out of these pedals.

The ATAC is ok, but I don't like the lateral movement and the float
wasn't that good. The bearings and spindle are better on the Time.

I did have a spring break on a eggbeater once... This latest re-design
probably helped with this, they seemed to have done a quality
re-design. so any way I really like the new Candy pedals. A great
replacement for the very flexy Quarttro, and magnitudes better quality
than the old plastic Candy. They also made the spindle shorter so no
longer have to chamfer....
[ http://bikeeng.blogspot.com/2009/05/chamfer-pedal-and-crank.html ]

The only issue i have had is that when I did take them apart after a
summer of riding i noticed one Needle bearing had slide in the pedal
body. Some Locitite fixed this. I also noticed just a bit of surface
wear / issue on the pedal spindle where the needles run...
Note not all the new eggbeaters use needle, some still use bushings.

--
jms, pe pdx, or
http://bikeeng.blogspot.com/

ot had one break on
> me yet but I've never been very happy that they used plastic bushings in
> place of an inboard bearing. I understand the 2010/2011 Eggbeaters now use
> full bearings so I'm still on the fence about switching to Time pedals or
> sticking with Eggbeaters and "upgrading" to the new pedals. I know that Ron
> Strasser will get a kick out of that as he's probably using the same set of
> Time ATAC pedals for the past few years and has yet to service them! :)
> A new pedal is a new pedal-- the only problem with switching is having to go
> through cleat position setup again. I also have two pair of Eggbeaters
> awaiting rebuilding.
> Brian J.
>
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Devin Flynn wrote:
>
> So anyone tried these lately? Still the same issue? I broke another
> eggbeater pedal and I am considering a change. Considering Times as well.
> On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:27 AM, "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
> wrote:
>
> I have a pair of the first generation model.  They tend to let your foot
> slip out of the cleat pedal interface.  They supposedly redesigned the
> second generation to prevent that from taking place.  My model and I
> understand the newer one as well you need to install shims as needed when
> putting cleat on shoe to provide optimum fit.  All said, compared to my time
> atac.... they do not match up at all.  Maybe the new ones would change my
> mind, but those are not what I am spending my $ on right now.  I would like
> to hear opinions about the second generation pedals if anyone has used them
> enough to comment (as in this cross season).  Mud, mounting and dismounting
> as well as how they hold up would be a good test.
>
> * * *
> My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"
> http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com
> My life as a Crossniac:
> www.crossniacs.com
>
>
>
>
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Brian Johnson

2010-08-05

I'm heavily invested in Eggbeater pedals myself. I've not had one
break on me yet but I've never been very happy that they used plastic
bushings in place of an inboard bearing. I understand the 2010/2011
Eggbeaters now use full bearings so I'm still on the fence about
switching to Time pedals or sticking with Eggbeaters and "upgrading"
to the new pedals. I know that Ron Strasser will get a kick out of
that as he's probably using the same set of Time ATAC pedals for the
past few years and has yet to service them! :)

A new pedal is a new pedal-- the only problem with switching is
having to go through cleat position setup again. I also have two pair
of Eggbeaters awaiting rebuilding.

Brian J.

> On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Devin Flynn wrote:
>
>
>> So anyone tried these lately? Still the same issue? I broke
>> another eggbeater pedal and I am considering a change. Considering
>> Times as well.
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:27 AM, "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have a pair of the first generation model. They tend to let
>>> your foot slip out of the cleat pedal interface. They supposedly
>>> redesigned the second generation to prevent that from taking
>>> place. My model and I understand the newer one as well you need
>>> to install shims as needed when putting cleat on shoe to provide
>>> optimum fit. All said, compared to my time atac.... they do not
>>> match up at all. Maybe the new ones would change my mind, but
>>> those are not what I am spending my $ on right now. I would like
>>> to hear opinions about the second generation pedals if anyone has
>>> used them enough to comment (as in this cross season). Mud,
>>> mounting and dismounting as well as how they hold up would be a
>>> good test.
>>

* * *
My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"
http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com

My life as a Crossniac:
www.crossniacs.com


Ben Fischler

2010-08-05

I've been curious about the Look Quartz kit for a while. Still happy with my SPDs for now and have too much invested in them. FWIW, I have heard nothing but borderline fanatically positive feedback from gear destroying riders who've switched from C.Brothers to the Times. The Times seem to be really solid.

[ ben.fischler@gmail.com ]

On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Devin Flynn wrote:

> So anyone tried these lately? Still the same issue? I broke another eggbeater pedal and I am considering a change. Considering Times as well.
>
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:27 AM, "Ron and Dorothy Strasser" wrote:
>
>> I have a pair of the first generation model. They tend to let your foot slip out of the cleat pedal interface. They supposedly redesigned the second generation to prevent that from taking place. My model and I understand the newer one as well you need to install shims as needed when putting cleat on shoe to provide optimum fit. All said, compared to my time atac.... they do not match up at all. Maybe the new ones would change my mind, but those are not what I am spending my $ on right now. I would like to hear opinions about the second generation pedals if anyone has used them enough to comment (as in this cross season). Mud, mounting and dismounting as well as how they hold up would be a good test.
>> ron
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Maximillian Kirchoff
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:50 AM
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Look Quartz MTB pedals, anyone use these?
>>
>> Have really no exposure to these and was curious if anyone has ridden them? Not many reviews on them, and there seems to be very conflicting points in the ones that there are.
>>
>>
>> So anybody have experience with these?
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________{ :)
>> Max Kirchoff
>> (503) 770-0629
>> max@maxisnow.com
>> http://www.maxisnow.com
>> http://portfolio.maxisnow.com
>>
>>
>>
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Clint Culpepper

2010-08-05

I've had good luck with the second generation Quartz pedals. Cheaper and lighter than the Time ATAC's and Look has developed a database of nearly every shoe out there that gives you the correct shim height. They are not rebuildable like many of the Time pedals however so that may be an issue for you.


Devin Flynn

2010-08-05

So anyone tried these lately? Still the same issue? I broke another eggbeater pedal and I am considering a change. Considering Times as well.

On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:27 AM, "Ron and Dorothy Strasser" wrote:

> I have a pair of the first generation model. They tend to let your foot slip out of the cleat pedal interface. They supposedly redesigned the second generation to prevent that from taking place. My model and I understand the newer one as well you need to install shims as needed when putting cleat on shoe to provide optimum fit. All said, compared to my time atac.... they do not match up at all. Maybe the new ones would change my mind, but those are not what I am spending my $ on right now. I would like to hear opinions about the second generation pedals if anyone has used them enough to comment (as in this cross season). Mud, mounting and dismounting as well as how they hold up would be a good test.
> ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Maximillian Kirchoff
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:50 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Look Quartz MTB pedals, anyone use these?
>
> Have really no exposure to these and was curious if anyone has ridden them? Not many reviews on them, and there seems to be very conflicting points in the ones that there are.
>
>
> So anybody have experience with these?
>
>
>
> ______________{ :)
> Max Kirchoff
> (503) 770-0629
> max@maxisnow.com
> http://www.maxisnow.com
> http://portfolio.maxisnow.com
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Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2009-11-17

I have a pair of the first generation model. They tend to let your foot slip out of the cleat pedal interface. They supposedly redesigned the second generation to prevent that from taking place. My model and I understand the newer one as well you need to install shims as needed when putting cleat on shoe to provide optimum fit. All said, compared to my time atac.... they do not match up at all. Maybe the new ones would change my mind, but those are not what I am spending my $ on right now. I would like to hear opinions about the second generation pedals if anyone has used them enough to comment (as in this cross season). Mud, mounting and dismounting as well as how they hold up would be a good test.
ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Maximillian Kirchoff
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:50 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Look Quartz MTB pedals, anyone use these?

Have really no exposure to these and was curious if anyone has ridden them? Not many reviews on them, and there seems to be very conflicting points in the ones that there are.

So anybody have experience with these?

______________{ :)
Max Kirchoff
(503) 770-0629
max@maxisnow.com
http://www.maxisnow.com
http://portfolio.maxisnow.com

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Maximillian Kirchoff

2009-11-17

Have really no exposure to these and was curious if anyone has ridden them?
Not many reviews on them, and there seems to be very conflicting points in
the ones that there are.

So anybody have experience with these?

______________{ :)
Max Kirchoff
(503) 770-0629
max@maxisnow.com
http://www.maxisnow.com
http://portfolio.maxisnow.com