snow in bend

Mike Kerkmann

2009-12-07

I haven't been past the course since the snows flew, but the shallow spots in my yard (on the west side near Shevlin Park) are 8 inches deep, with drifts (there was a lot of wind  transport during the storm) over knee deep in depressions and corners of the yard.
 
The dirt below is generally soft.  It could make for a fast frozen course if the snow is cleared, or it could make for mud holes and frozen ruts if it thaws and refreezes. 
 
It's Bend, there is no way to tell.  The storm wasn't expected to drop more than a bit of dust, an inch max...  heck, Mt B only got one inch out of it (from one end of town to the other, the range is 4 to 14 inches). 
 
If it ended up being 60 degrees this weekend, I'd be surprised, but the cascades do funny things (my internal almanac says this winters snows are 3 weeks early). 
 
Be prepared for EVERYTHING!  That said, Friday's temps should be around freezing, and there is the possibility of more snow this weekend....
 
Cheers, Mike.
 
PS, if there is someone that is totally hosed with regards to a place to stay, I may be able to put up a rider or 2 (spare room with a queen bed), but I have to warn you that we have 2 young kids, and a chaotic life which isn't ideal for someone that is serious about competing.
 

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Scott Jones wrote:

From: Scott Jones
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
To: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 7:51 PM

Kind of reminds me of Nationals a few years ago in Rhode Island. I just doubt that there is an overnight blizzard to deal with, but you never know.

I can say that the ground can change from race to race as it warms. One corner can be iffy one race and great the next. Gotta love cross and how things change so fast on course.

-Scott

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote:

Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some (which it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some melting) then re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an area that is swept.  An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be very different than packed down inch or two.  Both offer challenges.  If it is dry snow and there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some.  Whatever they do with the course should be just fine.  I am looking forward to cold temps and trying to stay vertical.  A big thanks to all the folks in Bend helping make this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input.  We are fortunate to be able to participate in this event here at home.
ron
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Metz"
To: "david baker"
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend

they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!

this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!

-joel

Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more coming
but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow off
the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.

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Rick Johnson

2009-12-07

Currently the snow on the ground here makes even popcorn seem mushy.
It's so dry it can be mixed with the dust (and I'm not joking about that).

The temp got all the way up to 9 degrees for a short time today. Right
now it's just bit under 3 degrees.

Rick

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Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote:
> Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some
> (which it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some
> melting) then re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than
> an area that is swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow
> will be very different than packed down inch or two. Both offer
> challenges. If it is dry snow and there is some wind, it may
> self-sweep and drift some. Whatever they do with the course should be
> just fine. I am looking forward to cold temps and trying to stay
> vertical. A big thanks to all the folks in Bend helping make this
> happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. We are fortunate to
> be able to participate in this event here at home.
> ron
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Metz"
> To: "david baker"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
>
>
>> they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!
>>
>> this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!
>>
>> -joel
>>
>>> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more
>>> coming
>>> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the
>>> snow off
>>> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
>>
>>
>>
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>> after she got that bicycle...
>>
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Scott Jones

2009-12-07

Kind of reminds me of Nationals a few years ago in Rhode Island. I just
doubt that there is an overnight blizzard to deal with, but you never know.

I can say that the ground can change from race to race as it warms. One
corner can be iffy one race and great the next. Gotta love cross and how
things change so fast on course.

-Scott

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ron and Dorothy Strasser <
rondot@spiritone.com> wrote:

> Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some
> (which it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some
> melting) then re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an
> area that is swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be
> very different than packed down inch or two. Both offer challenges. If it
> is dry snow and there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some.
> Whatever they do with the course should be just fine. I am looking forward
> to cold temps and trying to stay vertical. A big thanks to all the folks in
> Bend helping make this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. We
> are fortunate to be able to participate in this event here at home.
> ron
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Metz"
> To: "david baker"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
>
>
>
> they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!
>>
>> this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!
>>
>> -joel
>>
>> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more coming
>>> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow off
>>> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
>> magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
>> ==
>> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
>> after she got that bicycle...
>>
>>
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Joel Metz

2009-12-07

amen to all of that - i may yearn for the most masochistic course
possible, but im just stoked to race nats for the first time in 10 years
(and hopefully, not choke!!)

-joel

> Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some
> (which
> it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some melting)
> then
> re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an area that is
> swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be very
> different
> than packed down inch or two. Both offer challenges. If it is dry snow
> and
> there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some. Whatever they do
> with
> the course should be just fine. I am looking forward to cold temps and
> trying to stay vertical. A big thanks to all the folks in Bend helping
> make
> this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. We are fortunate to
> be able to participate in this event here at home.
> ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joel Metz"
> To: "david baker"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend
>
>
>> they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!
>>
>> this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!
>>
>> -joel
>>
>>> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more
>>> coming
>>> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow
>>> off
>>> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
>> magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
>> ==
>> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
>> after she got that bicycle...
>>
>>
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Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2009-12-07

Either way will be the same for all racers... but... if it melts some (which
it may not... but sunshine even in cold weather can cause some melting) then
re-freezes; the 6-8" of snow can be very different than an area that is
swept. An inch of ice on top of a few inches of snow will be very different
than packed down inch or two. Both offer challenges. If it is dry snow and
there is some wind, it may self-sweep and drift some. Whatever they do with
the course should be just fine. I am looking forward to cold temps and
trying to stay vertical. A big thanks to all the folks in Bend helping make
this happen and to Ross and crew for their pro input. We are fortunate to
be able to participate in this event here at home.
ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Metz"
To: "david baker"
Cc:
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] snow in bend

> they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!
>
> this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!
>
> -joel
>
>> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more coming
>> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow off
>> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
>
>
>
> --
> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
> magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
> ==
> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
> after she got that bicycle...
>
>
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Joel Metz

2009-12-07

they might sweep it off the course? SWEEP IT OFF THE COURSE?!??!

this is cyclocross, not baseball. let the snow lie!

-joel

> Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more coming
> but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow off
> the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.

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magpie messenger collective : http://magpiemessenger.com/
==
i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
after she got that bicycle...


Rick C Johnson

2009-12-07

> There's no more coming but this stuff is not going to melt.

What David no doubt means is that it is going to stay cold here (it is
currently 6 degrees). You'd be well advised to bring warm clothes -
embrocation probably won't be quite enough!

Rick

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

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david baker

2009-12-07

Looks like about 6-8 inches of fluffy light stuff. There's no more coming but this stuff is not going to melt. I think they will sweep the snow off the course but you might want to bring your trainer for workouts.
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