Mike Murray
Not that the LifeFlight deal is a bad thing (it is actually a good deal) the
chance that you will need LifeFlight is small. We have only flown 2-3
people in the past 25+ years. We do, however, put a lot of people in AMR
ambulances. As Candi has mentioned here before, AMR has a similar deal.
They do not market it. I believe they call it their ParaMed program. If
you call them you can get info. The membership will make it so that they
will transport you for insurance covered costs only, if needed.
Mike Murray
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Jess Mace
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:33 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] self-bonding --> racing/riding without insurance
(Was:CrossNats crash)
Exactly. While we're on the topic of insurance and bike racing.this just
came out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34419018/ns/health-health_care/
I would suggest everyone involved in road racing consider this:
$45-65$/year (the price of 2 OBRA races)
http://www.lifeflight.org/membership/
This isn't about blaming anyone, it's about financially covering yourself
and your family while we partake in a very risky sport
of which we don't always have control of the outcome.
Jess Mace, MPH, CCRP
Clinical Outcomes Research - Oregon Sinus Center
Department of Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery
Oregon Health & Science University
503.494.5886
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Mark J. Ginsberg
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:03 AM
To: l j; mike.murray@obra.org; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] self-bonding --> racing/riding without insurance
(Was:CrossNats crash)
it is that those with insurance have companies that have negotiated for them
to pay less!
Mark J. Ginsberg
Berkshire Ginsberg, LLC
Attorneys At Law
1216 SE Belmont St.
Portland, OR 97214
(503) 542-3000
Fax (503) 233-6874
markjginsberg@yahoo.com
www.bikesafetylaw.com
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From: l j
To: mike.murray@obra.org; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 9:57:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] self-bonding --> racing/riding without insurance
(Was:CrossNats crash)
So why is it that those without insurance have to pay more?
Lonnie Johnson
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> From: mike.murray@obra.org
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:39:40 +0000
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] self-bonding --> racing/riding without insurance
(Was:CrossNats crash)
>
> Oregon has a program for insuring people who have been unable to obtain
insurance commercially however the premiums are high compared to regular
insurance.
>
> Liability is rarely an issue for cyclists since they rarely cause damage
to others.
>
> People who do not have insurance are, by definition, self-insured... No
bond required. Although many default on those accumulated medical bill, most
do not. Generally they end up paying on them over a long period, get hounded
by collection agencies, damage their credit rating, etc. Most importantly
they get charged full price, not the discounted prices paid by insured
people.
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Meadors, Ivan C"
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:27:00
> To: b hamon;
obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] self-bonding --> racing/riding without insurance
(Was:
> CrossNats crash)
>
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