Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Re: [OBRA Chat] dress for the coldShowers Pass also sponsors a racing team. Next time I purchase outer weather gear... I will be checking out their products.
I find it interesting that someone would get a cold butt when riding and not the usual (toes/feet, fingers/hands, face). I hope the rider has gotten some info. to help. Seems circulation would be very good in the butt muscles and keep that part of body warm.
Happy New Year and keep pedaling.
ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Spencer Bohaboy
To: Dan H ; OBRA list
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] dress for the cold
Showers Pass does have some garment items made here in Oregon. They specifically worked to get some local manufacturing and accepted lower profit margins as a result. They support both local bicycle advocacy and a number of local fund raising rides. All in all, a good corporate citizen.
Cheers
On 12/29/09 10:29 PM, "Dan H" wrote:
Apologies if this is redundant. I meant to reply to the list. I'm not trying to start anything but Joel quite rightly pointed out that Showers Pass is made in China.
While that is correct, it is local company that employs local people and supports many benefit rides, BTA and other worthy causes. Do you have nothing made in China? I'll bet you have at least one bike made in China. heck, 90% of bike store inventory is made in China.
The fact is, if SP were made in USA it would cost about triple what it does.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joel
To: Dan H
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] dress for the cold
Showers pass is manufactured in china.
On Dec 29, 2009, at 8:35 PM, "Dan H" wrote:
Showers Pass Roadie Pants are designed to have a slightly loose fit and are Cadillac in the winter!
Buy local.
----- Original Message -----
From: john
To: OBRA remailer
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] dress for the cold
i second that, loose tights are definitely the way to go! I rarely if ever were "tight" tights anymore. for a number of years i wore a soft loose tight, which were pretty good, but in heavy rain they were quite awful. Much much better now, i modified some nike warm-up pants, dri-fit or dri-clime ?.... very-thin-lightweight tightly woven nylon like fabric but with a tincy bit of stretch. great material !!... and they were quite inexpensive. They are so light and non-binding its almost as good as going bare-legged.
Way too baggy especially at the ankle, but super easy to modify by just sewing a new seam inward of the original seam... I also added a warmth patch underneath at the knees. These work great from 60 degree all the way down to under freezing. ie i stayed quite comfortable on yesterday's 7 am commute. Ok probably hairy legs help maintain that air -gap, yes as Mark said, heat transfer laws might as well be utilized! They also work great cross country skiing under say another lightweight set of nylon hiking pants... (whereas tight thermal underwear would be too warm..) Bonus is they come on and off easily as well..
happy cold-weather cycling from john
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Mark J. Ginsberg > wrote:
Baggie tights maybe, I use some of the pearl izumi tokyo tights sometimes and tho they are the same material as the other PI tights b/c they sit off the skin they do create a layer of insulation which tight tights compress away.
he could also wear wind or rain pants, or cut a pair into "shorts" to wear over his tights. not as warm as wind can go up the leg, but it does create a barrier on his butt.
M
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From: Mathew Braun >
To: OBRA remailer >
Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 1:37:26 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] dress for the cold
Anyone have any cures for a cold buttocks? My brother-in-law has some high end thermal tights but says they still don't work for him. He's got no other problems, (well he does live in NJ) seems to dress fine everywhere else and have no other cold body areas.
Give me a shout off list if you have any thoughts.
Thanks much.
mathew braun
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