Rick C Johnson

Yes, and not only that it starts to smell bad too.

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

Karsten Hagen wrote:

> If a dead horse is kicked too many times, does it still make a sound?
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Hotmail wrote:
>
>> I wasn't there, so can't comment on what happened but this sounds
>> like typical early season riding. Everyone wants to go out and show
>> how awesome their off season training was and sometimes s$&@
>> happens. It's unfortunate but one of the main reasons I don't
>> generally race early season anymore, let the folks relax get a few
>> races over and the squriells calm down.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>> Gregg
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:10 PM, William O'Donnell
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all. I would like to present my version of what happened at
>>> the Cat 3 finish. I would also like to preface this by saying this
>>> was my first race in OR so maybe I don't understand some of the
>>> norms on this coast.
>>>
>>> I was off of the front of the pack for the final 8 minutes or so
>>> attempting a solo escape. I had a fair distance but knew that as I
>>> am not a climber, the finish would be tough for me to outrun the
>>> peloton.
>>>
>>> In the last corner I had a bit of an advantage and I gave it my all
>>> going up the climb, but about 200 meters from teh finish, I was
>>> passed by the leaders and my day was done. I moved to the far
>>> right of the road and soft pedaled the climb as it seemed senseless
>>> to sprint for 20th place.
>>>
>>> 10, 20, 30 people go by, and suddenly I am struck from behind and
>>> sent flying into the ditch. I look back and see the domino effect
>>> as some 10+ more go down. There were some who definitely messed up
>>> their bikes but it didn't appear that anyone was significantly
>>> injured. I was upset at the stupidity of it, but no sense crying
>>> over the proverbial spilled milk, and so I continued on my way.
>>>
>>> Speaking with the race official in the follow vehicle, he believes
>>> that the person who struck me from behind was (for some reason)
>>> sprinting with his head down and just rear ended me.
>>>
>>> I cannot say why someone was even sprinting for 50th place, much
>>> less with their head down, but I cannot claim to tell other people
>>> what to do at the finish of their race. Perhaps I should have
>>> stayed in the middle of the road so that it would have been tough
>>> to get around me (as the yellow line rule was for some reason in
>>> effect) but back east, when caught by the pack, when done with a
>>> lead out, or when suffering a mechanical, you move to the side to
>>> let others around.
>>>
>>> I did not swerve in an uncontrolled fashion, and I have the SRM
>>> file which shows me soft pedaling for 16 seconds prior to being
>>> struck. With as many people as went around me as there was,
>>> believe me, I was SHOCKED to be hit.
>>>
>>> Did someone else miss a shift? Pull a cleat? Some other thing? I
>>> have no idea. All I can say is that I was struck from behind hard,
>>> and that was the first contact of the crash.
>>>
>>> Sorry for all of you who had damaged equipment. It is probably the
>>> most ridiculous crash I have been in, and in my opinion completely
>>> unnecessary. If anyone else would like to elaborate, I would
>>> welcome it. I do not believe I was dangerous, squirrely or
>>> otherwise inappropriate in my decision to move to the right, but I
>>> am of course open to criticism as this was my first OR race.
>>>
>>> Best wishes to everyone.
>>>
>>> William
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Karsten Hagen

If a dead horse is kicked too many times, does it still make a sound?

Sent from my iPod

On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Hotmail wrote:

> I wasn't there, so can't comment on what happened but this sounds
> like typical early season riding. Everyone wants to go out and show
> how awesome their off season training was and sometimes s$&@
> happens. It's unfortunate but one of the main reasons I don't
> generally race early season anymore, let the folks relax get a few
> races over and the squriells calm down.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> Gregg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:10 PM, William O'Donnell
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all. I would like to present my version of what happened at
>> the Cat 3 finish. I would also like to preface this by saying this
>> was my first race in OR so maybe I don't understand some of the
>> norms on this coast.
>>
>> I was off of the front of the pack for the final 8 minutes or so
>> attempting a solo escape. I had a fair distance but knew that as I
>> am not a climber, the finish would be tough for me to outrun the
>> peloton.
>>
>> In the last corner I had a bit of an advantage and I gave it my all
>> going up the climb, but about 200 meters from teh finish, I was
>> passed by the leaders and my day was done. I moved to the far
>> right of the road and soft pedaled the climb as it seemed senseless
>> to sprint for 20th place.
>>
>> 10, 20, 30 people go by, and suddenly I am struck from behind and
>> sent flying into the ditch. I look back and see the domino effect
>> as some 10+ more go down. There were some who definitely messed up
>> their bikes but it didn't appear that anyone was significantly
>> injured. I was upset at the stupidity of it, but no sense crying
>> over the proverbial spilled milk, and so I continued on my way.
>>
>> Speaking with the race official in the follow vehicle, he believes
>> that the person who struck me from behind was (for some reason)
>> sprinting with his head down and just rear ended me.
>>
>> I cannot say why someone was even sprinting for 50th place, much
>> less with their head down, but I cannot claim to tell other people
>> what to do at the finish of their race. Perhaps I should have
>> stayed in the middle of the road so that it would have been tough
>> to get around me (as the yellow line rule was for some reason in
>> effect) but back east, when caught by the pack, when done with a
>> lead out, or when suffering a mechanical, you move to the side to
>> let others around.
>>
>> I did not swerve in an uncontrolled fashion, and I have the SRM
>> file which shows me soft pedaling for 16 seconds prior to being
>> struck. With as many people as went around me as there was,
>> believe me, I was SHOCKED to be hit.
>>
>> Did someone else miss a shift? Pull a cleat? Some other thing? I
>> have no idea. All I can say is that I was struck from behind hard,
>> and that was the first contact of the crash.
>>
>> Sorry for all of you who had damaged equipment. It is probably the
>> most ridiculous crash I have been in, and in my opinion completely
>> unnecessary. If anyone else would like to elaborate, I would
>> welcome it. I do not believe I was dangerous, squirrely or
>> otherwise inappropriate in my decision to move to the right, but I
>> am of course open to criticism as this was my first OR race.
>>
>> Best wishes to everyone.
>>
>> William
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
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Hotmail

I wasn't there, so can't comment on what happened but this sounds like
typical early season riding. Everyone wants to go out and show how
awesome their off season training was and sometimes s$&@ happens.
It's unfortunate but one of the main reasons I don't generally race
early season anymore, let the folks relax get a few races over and
the squriells calm down.

My 2 cents

Gregg

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:10 PM, William O'Donnell wrote:

> Hello all. I would like to present my version of what happened at
> the Cat 3 finish. I would also like to preface this by saying this
> was my first race in OR so maybe I don't understand some of the
> norms on this coast.
>
> I was off of the front of the pack for the final 8 minutes or so
> attempting a solo escape. I had a fair distance but knew that as I
> am not a climber, the finish would be tough for me to outrun the
> peloton.
>
> In the last corner I had a bit of an advantage and I gave it my all
> going up the climb, but about 200 meters from teh finish, I was
> passed by the leaders and my day was done. I moved to the far right
> of the road and soft pedaled the climb as it seemed senseless to
> sprint for 20th place.
>
> 10, 20, 30 people go by, and suddenly I am struck from behind and
> sent flying into the ditch. I look back and see the domino effect
> as some 10+ more go down. There were some who definitely messed up
> their bikes but it didn't appear that anyone was significantly
> injured. I was upset at the stupidity of it, but no sense crying
> over the proverbial spilled milk, and so I continued on my way.
>
> Speaking with the race official in the follow vehicle, he believes
> that the person who struck me from behind was (for some reason)
> sprinting with his head down and just rear ended me.
>
> I cannot say why someone was even sprinting for 50th place, much
> less with their head down, but I cannot claim to tell other people
> what to do at the finish of their race. Perhaps I should have
> stayed in the middle of the road so that it would have been tough to
> get around me (as the yellow line rule was for some reason in
> effect) but back east, when caught by the pack, when done with a
> lead out, or when suffering a mechanical, you move to the side to
> let others around.
>
> I did not swerve in an uncontrolled fashion, and I have the SRM file
> which shows me soft pedaling for 16 seconds prior to being struck.
> With as many people as went around me as there was, believe me, I
> was SHOCKED to be hit.
>
> Did someone else miss a shift? Pull a cleat? Some other thing? I
> have no idea. All I can say is that I was struck from behind hard,
> and that was the first contact of the crash.
>
> Sorry for all of you who had damaged equipment. It is probably the
> most ridiculous crash I have been in, and in my opinion completely
> unnecessary. If anyone else would like to elaborate, I would
> welcome it. I do not believe I was dangerous, squirrely or
> otherwise inappropriate in my decision to move to the right, but I
> am of course open to criticism as this was my first OR race.
>
> Best wishes to everyone.
>
> William
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>

William O'Donnell

Hello all. I would like to present my version of what happened at the Cat 3 finish. I would also like to preface this by saying this was my first race in OR so maybe I don't understand some of the norms on this coast.

I was off of the front of the pack for the final 8 minutes or so attempting a solo escape. I had a fair distance but knew that as I am not a climber, the finish would be tough for me to outrun the peloton.

In the last corner I had a bit of an advantage and I gave it my all going up the climb, but about 200 meters from teh finish, I was passed by the leaders and my day was done. I moved to the far right of the road and soft pedaled the climb as it seemed senseless to sprint for 20th place.

10, 20, 30 people go by, and suddenly I am struck from behind and sent flying into the ditch. I look back and see the domino effect as some 10+ more go down. There were some who definitely messed up their bikes but it didn't appear that anyone was significantly injured. I was upset at the stupidity of it, but no sense crying over the proverbial spilled milk, and so I continued on my way.

Speaking with the race official in the follow vehicle, he believes that the person who struck me from behind was (for some reason) sprinting with his head down and just rear ended me.

I cannot say why someone was even sprinting for 50th place, much less with their head down, but I cannot claim to tell other people what to do at the finish of their race. Perhaps I should have stayed in the middle of the road so that it would have been tough to get around me (as the yellow line rule was for some reason in effect) but back east, when caught by the pack, when done with a lead out, or when suffering a mechanical, you move to the side to let others around.

I did not swerve in an uncontrolled fashion, and I have the SRM file which shows me soft pedaling for 16 seconds prior to being struck. With as many people as went around me as there was, believe me, I was SHOCKED to be hit.

Did someone else miss a shift? Pull a cleat? Some other thing? I have no idea. All I can say is that I was struck from behind hard, and that was the first contact of the crash.

Sorry for all of you who had damaged equipment. It is probably the most ridiculous crash I have been in, and in my opinion completely unnecessary. If anyone else would like to elaborate, I would welcome it. I do not believe I was dangerous, squirrely or otherwise inappropriate in my decision to move to the right, but I am of course open to criticism as this was my first OR race.

Best wishes to everyone.

William

Dr. William J. O'Donnell

Apologies if this has posted twice, but I don't see it from the first I sent.

William

Hello all. I would like to present my version of what happened at the Cat 3 finish. I would also like to preface this by saying this was my first race in OR so maybe I don't understand some of the norms on this coast.

I was off of the front of the pack for the final 8 minutes or so attempting a solo escape. I had a fair distance but knew that as I am not a climber, the finish would be tough for me to outrun the peloton.

In the last corner I had a bit of an advantage and I gave it my all going up the climb, but about 200 meters from the finish, I was passed by the leaders and my day was done. I moved to the far right of the road and soft pedaled the climb as it seemed senseless to sprint for 20th place.

10, 20, 30 people go by, and suddenly I am struck from behind and sent flying into the ditch. I look back and see the domino effect as some 10+ more go down. There were some who definitely messed up their bikes but it didn't appear that anyone was significantly injured. I was upset at the stupidity of it, but no sense crying over the proverbial spilled milk, and so I continued on my way.

Speaking with the race official in the follow vehicle, he believes that the person who struck me from behind was (for some reason) sprinting with his head down and just rear ended me.

I cannot say why someone was even sprinting for 50th place, much less with their head down, but I cannot claim to tell other people what to do at the finish of their race. Perhaps I should have stayed in the middle of the road so that it would have been tough to get around me (as the yellow line rule was for some reason in effect) but back east, when caught by the pack, when done with a lead out, or when suffering a mechanical, you move to the side to let others around.

I did not swerve in an uncontrolled fashion, and I have the SRM file which shows me soft pedaling for 16 seconds prior to being struck. With as many people as went around me as there was, believe me, I was SHOCKED to be hit.

Did someone else miss a shift? Pull a cleat? Some other thing? I have no idea. All I can say is that I was struck from behind hard, and that was the first contact of the crash.

Sorry for all of you who had damaged equipment. It is probably the most ridiculous crash I have been in, and in my opinion completely unnecessary. If anyone else would like to elaborate, I would welcome it. I do not believe I was dangerous, squirrely or otherwise inappropriate in my decision to move to the right, but I am of course open to criticism as this was my first OR race.

Best wishes to everyone.

William