RE: my final note on Elkhorn and before Columbia Plateau and Cascade

Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn

2002-06-10

Todd



I appreciate your note. I penalized two riders at this race. I only knew

numbers and not who they were or what place they were in. Both penalties

caused the rider to place 2nd instead of 1st in the race



Candi







-----Original Message-----

From: Duncan, Todd [mailto:todd_d-@mentorg.com]

Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:03 PM

To: 'cmur-@obra.org'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] my final note on Elkhorn and before Columbia

Plateau and Cascade Cla





Hi Candi,

I'm just curious why people are penalized. I've read countless e-mails about

the rules and penalties for breaking the rules. Why aren't they strongly

enforced. I feel that people are taking advantage of the fact that noone is

being penalized. If it is publicly announced, maybe people will take heed. I

know for a fact that this is not happening. Case in point, at the "Piece of

Cake" earlier this season it was stated at the beginning of the race that if

anyone even thought about crossing the center line they would be DQ'd.

Somehow I inadvertently crossed the centerline during the race and received

only a warning at the end of the race. No DQ, no penalty. I was thankful

because I had placed well, but at the same time unimpressed that the law had

not been enforced.

My 2 bits.

Todd Duncan



-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:46 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] my final note on Elkhorn and before Columbia

Plateau and Cascade Cla





Since there is another stage race in a week I thought I'd add



Some things that made it made more difficult this weekend from an officials

view point.





Number placement - I know that they are big, but DO NOT CUT AND FOLD these

numbers We have to place every single person in a stage race and when we

cannot see your number it makes it so much harder Also put them where they

are suppose to go   DO NOT put them where you damn well want them, put them

WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GO! We spent every evening this weekend trying

to find out who certain riders were I looked up the obra rule this weekend

and the penalty for not having a readable number is to not place you in the

stage That would mean you are done, dnf'd kaput take heed here!



Urine - It's been said over and over again   I know you have to go but this

weekend we had a couple of occasions of

1. Crossing the centerline to urinate on the left side of the road

2. Peeing on the access road with oncoming traffic fro HWY 84 whizzing

(excuse the pun) by

3. Mass Urination in front of the kids at the cow drive was probably not a

good idea especially when one identified herself as a girl



Trash - We are in the middle of pristine country and you are throwing your

wrappers, bottles and even aluminum cans to the side of the road. For gawds

sake pack it out I know you all watch the pros on OLN, but this is Oregon

(Things look different here - state motto) The pros may throw things on the

grow, just because you throw things on the ground does not make you a pro

so knock it off!

   I can't begin to tell you the complaints from the citizens of whose

countryside we are using about the litter you all throw



Please hear these comments and do something about it! Don't do it yourself.

Don't put up with it from your riding mates either It would be a shame to

lose these courses



Just my 2 cents



Candi



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