As promoter of PIR (Tuesdays) for 8 years and competitor 15, I have the
following announcement regarding free laps, lapped riders and hot spot
points.
Firstly, I think we all agree that PIR is fundamentally a weekly training
race. As such, I believe it ought to be run like one. That is, it ought to
be officiated tightly enough to keep it a "real race"....AND, loosely enoug=
h
to keep it a training opportunity for those who are dropped. Secondly, this
particular venue is as safe as they come - it is a great place for riders t=
o
practice pack riding skills and get a good speed workout. It is a circuit
race (part rr and part crit) with no opportunity for follow support.
With this in mind, and as a result of the events of last Tuesday's race (an=
d
prompted opinions), the following rules will be in effect hence forth and
forever more:
PIR RULE CLAFICATIONS/CHANGES:
1. Free laps are allowed....ONLY WITH BONAFIDE MECHANICAL OR CRASH. THERE
WILL BE NO FREE LAPS WITH LESS THAN FIVE LAPS REMAINING. Those riders takin=
g
free laps WITHOUT SUCH CAUSE SHALL BE BANNED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT
MONTH'S SERIES.
2. Lapped riders are allowed to remain in the race...BUT SHALL SIT ON THE
BACK OF THE FIELD ONLY. ANY RIDER SEEN ANYWHERE NEAR THE FRONT (by official
or rider or promoter) SHALL BE BANNED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT MONTH'S
SERIES.
3. RIDERS MUST FINISH THE RACE TO BE AWARDED HOT SPOT POINTS.
Finally, it is worth noting that I and the officials notice just about all
of what goes on out there. We notice those who don't pay to race....we
notice those who cheat....we notice those who are unsafe. I have let allot
of this go in the past. That is about to change. We (and perhaps some paid
spies) will be watching.
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From: Mike Murray <mmur-@teleport.com>
To: OBRA Remailer <ob-@topica.com>
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Results-Tuesday PIR
Date: Wed, Jul 12, 2000, 11:46 PM
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Actually it was NOT a mistake. The officials were well aware that some o=
f
the placed riders did not finish the race. They told me that "Jeff wants
the riders to keep their points". Personally I think that is BS and agai=
nst
the rules of racing. YMMV.
The number of people jumping back in last night was huge. I would estima=
te
20 or so riders went down a lap and then came back in. Add to that at le=
ast
2 of the riders that were listed as placing didn't even finish the distan=
ce.
I agree that PIR is not the World Championships but either it is a race o=
r
it is not a race. If it is not a race then we should not have placings
awarded. If placings are awarded then it is a race. If it is a race the=
n
we should follow the racing rules. It is really an all or none situation=
.
If we ignore some of the rules where do we start to NOT ignore them?
Mike Murray
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From: Valente, Norrene [mailto:Norrene.-@nike.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:08 PM
To: 'ob-@topica.com'
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Results-Tuesday PIR
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guys, guys.....before we start another email spaming....
I saw last nights race, and the field shattered because of the wind and w=
hen
that happens it is very hard to judge who is on what lap and in what
position. I agree it is wrong to award a placing to a rider who doesn't
finish the race - but I will bet you dollars to donuts it just a simple
mistake.
PIR is just a Tuesday night get together for people to do a very fast
training ride (sorry no world championship strips issued) - that's it. Le=
t's
just have fun and keep it simple; If someone keeps jumping in and out of =
the
race, report it to the officials and they can punish that rider.
Just have fun out there!
cheers
norrene =3D0)
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From: Jim Anderson
Reply To: spa-@teleport.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:55 PM
Cc: OBRA Remailer
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FW: Results-Tuesday PIR
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I agree with Mike and it is unfair with what went on. Technically OBRA
has adopted the SAME Racing Rules as the USCF on all types of races.
Just because its OBRA doesnt mean that we can bend the rules or make
amendments to them for certain circumstances. PIR is almost a "mix"
between a criterium and a Road Race. I think the officals blend the
rules for both? Rules governing road racing and Criterium racing
regarding lapped riders is as follows:
SECTION 3C3:
"A lapped rider or one who as fallen too far behind and is considered to
be out contention may be called off the course by the Chief Ref."
Note: PIR riders are allowed to continue to "race/ride". however PIR is
a "training" race, but there is NO such thing as "training" race rules
and road race rules. training road race=3Droad race, no difference.
"Riders on differnt laps may not give or receive pace(drafting) from one
another." easy enough rule, if you are lapped you ride at the back of
the field, not taking pace from the draft of the field. THIS also means
that to do this you let the field pass then continue to ride.
Technically you are neutral as the field passes, then you can continue
on your way. THIS also doesnt mean that you think you can "squezze"
into the field when its strung out single file, and think someone will
let you in.
"A Lapped rider may not interfere in ANY prime sprint or finishing
sprint...." a very simple rule. enough said.
Criterium Rules state about lapped riders is:
3D3:
"...Lapped riders may be permitted to remain in the race and will finish
on the same lap as the leaders..."
3D4:
"Riders on different laps may work together except that no rider may
drop back to assist a rider that has broken away from the field."
pages 56, 58. 2000 uscf rulebk
Please let me know if im at ALL incorrect on the statements above,
officals, race directors?....
thanks.
--Jim
Mike Murray wrote:
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I reading these results I notice that there is at least one rider who =
is
listed as placing who did not complete the full distance of the race.
One
rider quit with 10 or so laps to go! Since this is a points race form=
at
the
points should be used to resolve the placing of riders that are on the
same
number of laps. Is it far or reasonable to place people that don't ev=
en
finish the race?
The other problem with lapped riders that was particularly bad last
night is
that many people were getting dropped or stopping (often from the midd=
le
of
the field) and then re-joining the race after sitting out a lap and
continuing to sprint and chase breaks and otherwise effect the race.
Even
worse they would often re-join and then get dropped again while many
riders
on even laps were gapped behind them.
It appears that the most effective technique to ride PIR under the
current
format would be to sit out all but the sprint laps.
Is this something that bothers just me or do other people think it is
unfair
also? Does anyone have a solution?
Personally I think that we need to have a lead vehicle for each field.
This
would make the officiating much easier. Lapped riders would be noted
immediately. Currently the officials have little idea if someone is a
lap
down. Neutralizing when different fields pass each other would be muc=
h
safer and more fair. Officials could actually make some judgments for
foul
riding. Perhaps having a designated lantern rouge rider that lapped
riders
needed to stay behind would be a way to allow lapped riders to continu=
e
to
ride without effecting the race.
Mike Murray
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From: Oregon Bicycle Racing [mailto:ob-@teleport.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:10 PM
To: ob-@teleport.com
Subject: Results-Tuesday PIR
PIR Race Series
July 11, 2000
Cately 1/2/3
1st. Graham Hill, Logie velo 12 13 28
2nd. Evan Elken, Bike&Hike 12 12 24
3rd. Pietro Buttita, Bike&Hike 10 7 17
4th. Terry McLeod, Saturn of Belluvue 7 4 11
5th. Steve Wright, Logie Velo 0 9 9
6th. Charles Hailey, Team Nissan 8 8
7th/ Jeff Mitchem, Logie Velo 5 3 8
8th. John Leonard, Team S&M 3 4 7
9th. Kelly Wieber, Safeway/Sturn 6 6
10th. Corey Stayton, Wizards 0 5 5
11th. Steve Swartzendruber, Logie 4 4
12th. Jamie Mikami, Safeway/Saturn 0 2 2
13th. Duncan Oliphant, River's Edge 0 2 2
14th. Andreas Oswald, North River Racing 1 1
Category 4/5
1st. DAvid Hopper, Logie Velo 15 3 18
2nd. Nathan Hobbson,bike/Seratto 8 6 14
3rd. Eric Hopper, Logie Velo 10 3 13
4th. Sam Richardson 12 12
5th. Dominic VanHorn, Team Oregon 7 7
6th. Dean Tracy, Safeway/Saturn 6 6
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