Observations from Tour of California

Mike Murray

2010-05-19

When the camera motos went past us on the climb we were parked on they
didn't even have their cameras out. Contrary to what has been posted, the
camera motos are in the field just like European races. I have no idea why
they were not filming and putting things in the can for later editing.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Pat Malach
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 09:10 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

The weather was horrible and the planes couldn't get up, but that still
doesn't explain Versus rebroadcast the same non-coverage more than four
hours later (plenty of time to download the video from the bikes, where it's
captured in machines stored in their panniers).

Sunday's tape-delayed coverage that scheduled for 10 actually started at
9:30 because the hockey ended early and they needed filler. So who cares
about viewers who planned on watching it at 10.

And yesterday's abomination squarely disqualifies Versus from bidding on
bike racing ever again. If you can't commit to showing the last 45 seconds
of a race when the overall favorites are battling for the leader's jersey,
you shouldn't be in the game at all.

Versus has always had a pretty severe identity problem, and it's pretty
clear the network doesn't care. Cycling deserves better. That is all.
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John Sindell

2010-05-19

Better:
http://tracker.amgentourofcalifornia.com

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:10 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

The weather was horrible and the planes couldn't get up, but that still doesn't explain Versus rebroadcast the same non-coverage more than four hours later (plenty of time to download the video from the bikes, where it's captured in machines stored in their panniers).

Sunday's tape-delayed coverage that scheduled for 10 actually started at 9:30 because the hockey ended early and they needed filler. So who cares about viewers who planned on watching it at 10.

And yesterday's abomination squarely disqualifies Versus from bidding on bike racing ever again. If you can't commit to showing the last 45 seconds of a race when the overall favorites are battling for the leader's jersey, you shouldn't be in the game at all.

Versus has always had a pretty severe identity problem, and it's pretty clear the network doesn't care. Cycling deserves better. That is all.
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Pat Malach

2010-05-19

The weather was horrible and the planes couldn't get up, but that still doesn't explain Versus rebroadcast the same non-coverage more than four hours later (plenty of time to download the video from the bikes, where it's captured in machines stored in their panniers).

Sunday's tape-delayed coverage that scheduled for 10 actually started at 9:30 because the hockey ended early and they needed filler. So who cares about viewers who planned on watching it at 10.

And yesterday's abomination squarely disqualifies Versus from bidding on bike racing ever again. If you can't commit to showing the last 45 seconds of a race when the overall favorites are battling for the leader's jersey, you shouldn't be in the game at all.

Versus has always had a pretty severe identity problem, and it's pretty clear the network doesn't care. Cycling deserves better. That is all.


Karsten Hagen

2010-05-19

The weather was absolutely apocalyptic.

The only thing flying that day were sandbags. Versus actually did a pretty
good job given the conditions...but the crowds were huge! Santa Rosa loves
bike racing.

Karsten Hagen

On 5/18/10 9:05 AM, "Chris Alling" wrote:

> Versus did not even show the last K. I would say that it was the last 200m.
> All you saw was the sprint. They had this issue last year I would have
> thought that they would have figured it out by now. They can televise the
> European races under similar conditions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian List
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:50 PM
> To: cmurray@obra.org
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California
>
> You saw more of the race than Versus showed. Apparently the weather kept the
> helicopters down and riders were not seen on TV until the last kilo.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Candi Murray
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:40 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California
>
> Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
> Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
> public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
> clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!
>
> We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
> 85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
> Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
> sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
> We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
> it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
> would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
> have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
> very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
> finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
> something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
> with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
> were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
> on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
> signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
> road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
> should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
> really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
> something soon.
>
> 1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
> 1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
> park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
> like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
> 1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
> riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
> top.
> 1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
> questions. Specialized car.
> 1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
> 1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
> 1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
> Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
> account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
> for a ride this morning.
> 1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
> any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
> 1:56 Race Director car goes by
> 2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
> just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
> are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
> we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
> Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
> no closed toed walking around shoes.
> 2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
> don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
> up.
> 2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
> 2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
> meaning to postal ;-)
> 2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
> 2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
> 2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
> downhill traffic ????
> 2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
> with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
> car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
> 2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
> the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
> 2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
> 2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
> service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
> 2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
> 1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
> out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
> Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
> to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
> 2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
> different languages in the group.
> 3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
> 3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
> the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
> the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
> 3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
> up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
> 3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
> the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
> finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
> cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
> It was hard to identify any of the riders.
> 3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
> have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
> get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
> It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
> that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
> Bye
> Candi
>
>
>
> Candi
>
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Joe Cipale

2010-05-18

Ahhh tachnology...

We can put a man on the moon but are still unable to broadcast a bike race in crummy weather. :^)

Mike Murray wrote:

> Nothing in the air would have been able to see anything yesterday. Low clouds would obscure any visual.
>
> I think one of the differences is that they need the aircraft to relay the signal from motor cameras. I suspect that in the closer confines in Europe they can use ground based relays.
> Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Chris Alling"
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:05:53
> To: 'Brian List';
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California
>
> Versus did not even show the last K. I would say that it was the last 200m.
> All you saw was the sprint. They had this issue last year I would have
> thought that they would have figured it out by now. They can televise the
> European races under similar conditions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian List
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:50 PM
> To: cmurray@obra.org
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California
>
> You saw more of the race than Versus showed. Apparently the weather kept the
> helicopters down and riders were not seen on TV until the last kilo.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Candi Murray
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:40 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California
>
> Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
> Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
> public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
> clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!
>
> We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
> 85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
> Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
> sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
> We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
> it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
> would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
> have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
> very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
> finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
> something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
> with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
> were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
> on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
> signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
> road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
> should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
> really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
> something soon.
>
> 1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
> 1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
> park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
> like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
> 1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
> riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
> top.
> 1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
> questions. Specialized car.
> 1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
> 1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
> 1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
> Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
> account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
> for a ride this morning.
> 1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
> any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
> 1:56 Race Director car goes by
> 2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
> just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
> are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
> we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
> Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
> no closed toed walking around shoes.
> 2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
> don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
> up.
> 2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
> 2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
> meaning to postal ;-)
> 2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
> 2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
> 2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
> downhill traffic ????
> 2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
> with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
> car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
> 2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
> the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
> 2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
> 2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
> service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
> 2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
> 1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
> out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
> Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
> to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
> 2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
> different languages in the group.
> 3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
> 3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
> the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
> the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
> 3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
> up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
> 3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
> the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
> finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
> cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
> It was hard to identify any of the riders.
> 3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
> have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
> get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
> It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
> that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
> Bye
> Candi
>
>
>
> Candi
>
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Mike Murray

2010-05-18

Nothing in the air would have been able to see anything yesterday. Low clouds would obscure any visual.

I think one of the differences is that they need the aircraft to relay the signal from motor cameras. I suspect that in the closer confines in Europe they can use ground based relays.
Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "Chris Alling"
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:05:53
To: 'Brian List';
Cc:
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

Versus did not even show the last K. I would say that it was the last 200m.
All you saw was the sprint. They had this issue last year I would have
thought that they would have figured it out by now. They can televise the
European races under similar conditions.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Brian List
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:50 PM
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

You saw more of the race than Versus showed. Apparently the weather kept the
helicopters down and riders were not seen on TV until the last kilo.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:40 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!

We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
something soon.

1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
top.
1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
questions. Specialized car.
1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
for a ride this morning.
1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
1:56 Race Director car goes by
2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
no closed toed walking around shoes.
2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
up.
2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
meaning to postal ;-)
2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
downhill traffic ????
2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
different languages in the group.
3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
It was hard to identify any of the riders.
3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
Bye
Candi

Candi

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joe cipale

2010-05-18

I would imagine the terrain invloved had something to do with the
ability/inability to show race footage. Omer is quite right: rules for
flying are likely a little more stringent in the US then in Europe.

Joe

Chris Alling wrote:
> Versus did not even show the last K. I would say that it was the last 200m.
> All you saw was the sprint. They had this issue last year I would have
> thought that they would have figured it out by now. They can televise the
> European races under similar conditions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian List
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:50 PM
> To: cmurray@obra.org
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California
>
> You saw more of the race than Versus showed. Apparently the weather kept the
> helicopters down and riders were not seen on TV until the last kilo.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Candi Murray
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:40 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California
>
> Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
> Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
> public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
> clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!
>
> We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
> 85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
> Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
> sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
> We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
> it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
> would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
> have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
> very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
> finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
> something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
> with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
> were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
> on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
> signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
> road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
> should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
> really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
> something soon.
>
> 1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
> 1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
> park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
> like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
> 1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
> riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
> top.
> 1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
> questions. Specialized car.
> 1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
> 1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
> 1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
> Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
> account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
> for a ride this morning.
> 1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
> any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
> 1:56 Race Director car goes by
> 2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
> just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
> are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
> we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
> Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
> no closed toed walking around shoes.
> 2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
> don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
> up.
> 2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
> 2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
> meaning to postal ;-)
> 2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
> 2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
> 2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
> downhill traffic ????
> 2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
> with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
> car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
> 2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
> the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
> 2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
> 2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
> service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
> 2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
> 1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
> out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
> Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
> to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
> 2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
> different languages in the group.
> 3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
> 3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
> the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
> the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
> 3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
> up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
> 3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
> the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
> finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
> cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
> It was hard to identify any of the riders.
> 3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
> have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
> get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
> It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
> that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
> Bye
> Candi
>
>
>
> Candi
>
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Long, Steve

2010-05-18

Very nice Candi.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:40 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!

We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about
mile
85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch
Mountain.
Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see
much
sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing
down
it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes.
There
have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are
not
very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de
France is
something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was
struck
with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we
saw
were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no
Bike
on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically
no
signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police
this
road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving
public
should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I
am
really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
something soon.

1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places
to
park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars
look
like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from
the
top.
1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers
my
questions. Specialized car.
1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while
out
for a ride this morning.
1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to
have
any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
1:56 Race Director car goes by
2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees.
There
are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that
when
we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain
gear.
Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone)
But
no closed toed walking around shoes.
2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is
letting
up.
2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole
new
meaning to postal ;-)
2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
downhill traffic ????
2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5
riders
with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now
comes a
car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2
from
the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official
and
service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less
then
1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can
make
out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is
hard
to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can
hear
different languages in the group.
3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One
of
the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear
on
the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars
backed
up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have
been if
the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at
the
finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It
was
cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I
know.
It was hard to identify any of the riders.
3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this
must
have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how
to
get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty
countryside.
It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you
know
that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
Bye
Candi

Candi

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Omer Kem

2010-05-18

The problem with the race coverage is that in the US it's not "safe" to put the motos/cameras in the field. In Europe there is a common disregard for safety for the sake of video. Having quite a bit of personal experience with the big races in the US, this has always been a issue.

The other thing that would have made for lousy coverage is that all the motos along with the team cars would have been pulled at the start of the Santa rosa circuit. It is small and in years past there have been crashes and issues with the team cars being backed up and dangerous.

I hope that helps. Please feel free to ask me any questions about the race, coverage, riders etc....

Omer

On May 18, 2010, at 10:05 AM, "Chris Alling" wrote:

Versus did not even show the last K. I would say that it was the last 200m.
All you saw was the sprint. They had this issue last year I would have
thought that they would have figured it out by now. They can televise the
European races under similar conditions.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Brian List
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:50 PM
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

You saw more of the race than Versus showed. Apparently the weather kept the
helicopters down and riders were not seen on TV until the last kilo.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:40 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!

We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
something soon.

1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
top.
1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
questions. Specialized car.
1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
for a ride this morning.
1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
1:56 Race Director car goes by
2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
no closed toed walking around shoes.
2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
up.
2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
meaning to postal ;-)
2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
downhill traffic ????
2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
different languages in the group.
3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
It was hard to identify any of the riders.
3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
Bye
Candi

Candi

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Chris Alling

2010-05-18

Versus did not even show the last K. I would say that it was the last 200m.
All you saw was the sprint. They had this issue last year I would have
thought that they would have figured it out by now. They can televise the
European races under similar conditions.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Brian List
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:50 PM
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

You saw more of the race than Versus showed. Apparently the weather kept the
helicopters down and riders were not seen on TV until the last kilo.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:40 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!

We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
something soon.

1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
top.
1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
questions. Specialized car.
1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
for a ride this morning.
1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
1:56 Race Director car goes by
2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
no closed toed walking around shoes.
2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
up.
2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
meaning to postal ;-)
2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
downhill traffic ????
2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
different languages in the group.
3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
It was hard to identify any of the riders.
3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
Bye
Candi

Candi

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Joe Cipale

2010-05-18

Great writeup Candi. Thank you!

Joe

Candi Murray wrote:

> Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
> Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
> public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
> clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!
>
> We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
> 85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
> Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
> sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
> We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
> it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
> would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
> have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
> very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
> finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
> something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
> with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
> were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
> on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
> signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
> road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
> should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
> really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
> something soon.
>
> 1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
> 1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
> park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
> like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
> 1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
> riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
> top.
> 1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
> questions. Specialized car.
> 1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
> 1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
> 1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
> Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
> account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
> for a ride this morning.
> 1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
> any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
> 1:56 Race Director car goes by
> 2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
> just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
> are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
> we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
> Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
> no closed toed walking around shoes.
> 2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
> don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
> up.
> 2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
> 2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
> meaning to postal ;-)
> 2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
> 2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
> 2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
> downhill traffic ????
> 2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
> with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
> car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
> 2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
> the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
> 2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
> 2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
> service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
> 2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
> 1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
> out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
> Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
> to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
> 2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
> different languages in the group.
> 3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
> 3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
> the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
> the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
> 3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
> up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
> 3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
> the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
> finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
> cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
> It was hard to identify any of the riders.
> 3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
> have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
> get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
> It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
> that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
> Bye
> Candi
>
>
>
> Candi
>
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Dave Cowperthwaite

2010-05-18

Oh you should definitely get a Twitter account!

Sent from my iPad

On May 17, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Candi Murray wrote:

> Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
> Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
> public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
> clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!
>
> We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
> 85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
> Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
> sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
> We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
> it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
> would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
> have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
> very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
> finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
> something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
> with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
> were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
> on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
> signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
> road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
> should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
> really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
> something soon.
>
> 1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
> 1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
> park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
> like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
> 1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
> riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
> top.
> 1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
> questions. Specialized car.
> 1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
> 1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
> 1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
> Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
> account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
> for a ride this morning.
> 1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
> any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
> 1:56 Race Director car goes by
> 2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
> just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
> are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
> we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
> Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
> no closed toed walking around shoes.
> 2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
> don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
> up.
> 2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
> 2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
> meaning to postal ;-)
> 2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
> 2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
> 2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
> downhill traffic ????
> 2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
> with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
> car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
> 2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
> the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
> 2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
> 2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
> service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
> 2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
> 1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
> out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
> Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
> to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
> 2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
> different languages in the group.
> 3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
> 3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
> the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
> the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
> 3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
> up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
> 3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
> the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
> finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
> cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
> It was hard to identify any of the riders.
> 3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
> have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
> get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
> It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
> that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
> Bye
> Candi
>
>
>
> Candi
>
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gary johnson

2010-05-18

I'll second the vote for a Candi blog!

> From: cmurray@obra.org
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:40:09 -0700
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California
>
> Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
> Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
> public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
> clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!
>
> We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
> 85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
> Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
> sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
> We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
> it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
> would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
> have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
> very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
> finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
> something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
> with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
> were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
> on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
> signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
> road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
> should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
> really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
> something soon.
>
> 1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
> 1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
> park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
> like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
> 1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
> riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
> top.
> 1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
> questions. Specialized car.
> 1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
> 1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
> 1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
> Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
> account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
> for a ride this morning.
> 1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
> any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
> 1:56 Race Director car goes by
> 2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
> just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
> are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
> we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
> Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
> no closed toed walking around shoes.
> 2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
> don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
> up.
> 2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
> 2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
> meaning to postal ;-)
> 2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
> 2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
> 2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
> downhill traffic ????
> 2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
> with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
> car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
> 2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
> the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
> 2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
> 2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
> service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
> 2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
> 1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
> out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
> Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
> to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
> 2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
> different languages in the group.
> 3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
> 3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
> the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
> the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
> 3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
> up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
> 3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
> the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
> finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
> cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
> It was hard to identify any of the riders.
> 3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
> have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
> get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
> It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
> that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
> Bye
> Candi
>
>
>
> Candi
>
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Brian List

2010-05-18

You saw more of the race than Versus showed. Apparently the weather kept the
helicopters down and riders were not seen on TV until the last kilo.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:40 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Observations from Tour of California

Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!

We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
something soon.

1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
top.
1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
questions. Specialized car.
1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
for a ride this morning.
1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
1:56 Race Director car goes by
2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
no closed toed walking around shoes.
2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
up.
2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
meaning to postal ;-)
2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
downhill traffic ????
2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
different languages in the group.
3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
It was hard to identify any of the riders.
3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
Bye
Candi

Candi

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Michael Larsen

2010-05-18

That was cool.
On May 17, 2010, at 8:06 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:

> Sweet report! Candi- you should start blogging! :p
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Candi Murray
> wrote:
>> Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
>> Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one.
>> Lots of
>> public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
>> clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!
>>
>> We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at
>> about mile
>> 85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch
>> Mountain.
>> Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not
>> see much
>> sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
>> We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of
>> racing down
>> it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and
>> twisty. I
>> would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the
>> bikes. There
>> have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There
>> are not
>> very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen
>> lots of
>> finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de
>> France is
>> something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was
>> struck
>> with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only
>> signs we saw
>> were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race,
>> no Bike
>> on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is
>> basically no
>> signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to
>> police this
>> road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware
>> driving public
>> should then happen on this course that has no signage of the
>> event. I am
>> really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
>> something soon.
>>
>> 1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race
>> traffic.
>> 1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for
>> places to
>> park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some
>> cars look
>> like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
>> 1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of
>> recreational
>> riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down
>> from the
>> top.
>> 1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that
>> answers my
>> questions. Specialized car.
>> 1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
>> 1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
>> 1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in
>> Apple.
>> Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a
>> Twitter
>> account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team
>> while out
>> for a ride this morning.
>> 1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems
>> to have
>> any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
>> 1:56 Race Director car goes by
>> 2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the
>> last guy
>> just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the
>> trees. There
>> are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you
>> that when
>> we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any
>> rain gear.
>> Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes
>> alone) But
>> no closed toed walking around shoes.
>> 2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this
>> time. We
>> don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is
>> letting
>> up.
>> 2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
>> 2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a
>> whole new
>> meaning to postal ;-)
>> 2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
>> 2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
>> 2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet,
>> still
>> downhill traffic ????
>> 2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are
>> 5 riders
>> with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying.
>> Now comes a
>> car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
>> 2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are
>> about 1/2 from
>> the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
>> 2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
>> 2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more
>> official and
>> service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
>> 2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders
>> less then
>> 1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I
>> can make
>> out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall.
>> Tons of
>> Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but
>> it is hard
>> to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
>> 2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you
>> can hear
>> different languages in the group.
>> 3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
>> 3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with
>> logos. One of
>> the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I
>> can hear on
>> the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
>> 3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50
>> cars backed
>> up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
>> 3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would
>> have been if
>> the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will
>> be at the
>> finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of
>> racing. It was
>> cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch
>> people I know.
>> It was hard to identify any of the riders.
>> 3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb
>> this must
>> have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea
>> how to
>> get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty
>> countryside.
>> It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did
>> you know
>> that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
>> Bye
>> Candi
>>
>>
>>
>> Candi
>>
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T. Kenji Sugahara

2010-05-18

Sweet report! Candi- you should start blogging! :p

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Candi Murray wrote:
> Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
> Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
> public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
> clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!
>
> We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
> 85 or so.  The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
> Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
> sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
> We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
> it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty.  I
> would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes.  There
> have been spectators parked along every possible pull out.  There are not
> very many of them.  We came to this point because we have seen lots of
> finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
> something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did.  I was struck
> with the lack of signage.  Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
> were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
> on road signs.  There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
> signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
> road at the time we headed up it.  I worry about the unaware driving public
> should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event.  I am
> really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
> something soon.
>
> 1:32  We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
> 1:36  A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
> park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
> like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
> 1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly.  Plenty of recreational
> riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
> top.
> 1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
> questions. Specialized car.
> 1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
> 1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
> 1:51  I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
> Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
> account.  BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
> for a ride this morning.
> 1:55  More Marshalls in vans.  First fender sighting. No one seems to have
> any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
> 1:56 Race Director car goes by
> 2:02  Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
> just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
> are still cars heading downhill toward the race.  Did I tell you that when
> we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
> Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
> no closed toed walking around shoes.
> 2:12  Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
> don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
> up.
> 2:23  "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
> 2:25  Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
> meaning to postal ;-)
> 2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
> 2:29  Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
> 2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
> downhill traffic ????
> 2:39  Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
> with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying.  Now comes a
> car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
> 2:45  Still waiting.  Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
> the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
> 2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
> 2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
> service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
> 2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
> 1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
> out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall.  Tons of
> Vehicles.  A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
> to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
> 2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
> different languages in the group.
> 3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
> 3:02  Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
> the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
> the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
> 3:07  Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
> up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
> 3:09  I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
> the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
> finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
> cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
> It was hard to identify any of the riders.
> 3:20  We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
> have been.  Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
> get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
> It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
> that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
> Bye
> Candi
>
>
>
> Candi
>
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Candi Murray

2010-05-18

Davis to Santa Rosa, 110 miles, 53 degrees raining constantly.
Do Californians riders own fenders? Have not seen a single one. Lots of
public pre-riding the course, I want to tell them all to put on more
clothes. Why are they not wearing coverings on their legs? Brrrrr!

We are parked on the side of the road between the last 2 KOMs at about mile
85 or so. The two lane road looks a lot like the road up to Larch Mountain.
Narrow, no shoulder, tall trees towering above so that you do not see much
sky. Very pretty. Very wet.
We drove up the last descent and it was freaky scary to think of racing down
it, I would love to hear feedback from the riders. Steep and twisty. I
would have a hard time keeping the Mini Cooper ahead of the bikes. There
have been spectators parked along every possible pull out. There are not
very many of them. We came to this point because we have seen lots of
finishes, I have always heard that the circus prior to the Tour de France is
something to see, I wanted to see how the big USA race did. I was struck
with the lack of signage. Before we got on this climb the only signs we saw
were the standard road construction ones. No signs about the race, no Bike
on road signs. There is not just a lack of signage there is basically no
signage. Maybe they don't need it???? There were no marshals to police this
road at the time we headed up it. I worry about the unaware driving public
should then happen on this course that has no signage of the event. I am
really anxious to see the caravan and race enclosure. We should see
something soon.

1:32 We see the first motorcycle cop. Still lots of non race traffic.
1:36 A Rabobank vehicle just went by. Lots of cars looking for places to
park, there aren't any. Hope that they send a tow truck as some cars look
like they will have trouble getting out of the ditches.
1:41 Amber truck comes by playing music loudly. Plenty of recreational
riders are struggling with this climb, we are about 1/2 mile down from the
top.
1:45 More Amgen vans with 'marshals" signs on them, guess that answers my
questions. Specialized car.
1:46 HTC Columbia Vehicle
1:48 I have to pee, good thing there are lots of trees around here.
1:51 I love my IPAD, you should all get one. Yes I own stock in Apple.
Mike says it is a good thing for all of you that I do not have a Twitter
account. BTW he was passed by the whole Livestrong Under 23 team while out
for a ride this morning.
1:55 More Marshalls in vans. First fender sighting. No one seems to have
any frame pumps, do you not need them anymore?
1:56 Race Director car goes by
2:02 Looks like the sag wagon for the recreational riders, the last guy
just had gym shorts on. Still raining, kinda dark here in the trees. There
are still cars heading downhill toward the race. Did I tell you that when
we planned this trip the forecast was mid 70s. I didn't bring any rain gear.
Of course, Mr. Prepared did (he brought 4 pairs of cycling shoes alone) But
no closed toed walking around shoes.
2:12 Another moto cop. Race has been going on for 3:15 at this time. We
don't get any cell or radio coverage here. Seems like the rain is letting
up.
2:23 "Course Director" car goes by, Rain is back.
2:25 Two motor cops bring up the local mail delivery van. Gives a whole new
meaning to postal ;-)
2:27 Raining even heavier, 54 degrees
2:29 Cars honking, here we go, really pouring now
2:36 The honking got people out of their cars, but no riders yet, still
downhill traffic ????
2:39 Can hear a loud speaker down the hill stating that there are 5 riders
with a 4 minute lead- or I think that is what they are saying. Now comes a
car with speakers on it like a mobile announcer.
2:45 Still waiting. Not sure how long this climb is, we are about 1/2 from
the top. Can only see down about 200 meters.
2:50 More Police and some cars with VIP stickers on them
2:54 2 riders preceded by multiple photo motors and 5 or more official and
service vehicles. I can't tell who they are, they look young.
2:55 Certainly not 5 minutes, there is a whole boatload of riders less then
1 minute back. I hear someone shout "Go Andy" Is Schleck here? I can make
out George Hincapie. He sticks out because he is just so tall. Tons of
Vehicles. A spectator down the road is beating on a bucket, but it is hard
to hear because of how hard the rain is falling.
2:56 Another group of 15-25 riders, all wearing rain jackets, you can hear
different languages in the group.
3:01 Group of almost 30, all at the same ride pace.
3:02 Here is the race medical, a AMR rig all decked out with logos. One of
the cars is calling out there is just one rider off the back. I can hear on
the race radio that things are coming back together at the front.
3:07 Last rider, from Jelly Belly, there has to be more then 50 cars backed
up behind him. It is over. King of anticlimactic.
3:09 I thought it would be a bigger deal. I wonder if it would have been if
the weather had been better. I am sure that all the froo froo will be at the
finish. We spent most of the day and saw about 10 minutes of racing. It was
cool but I would rather be there for an OBRA event and watch people I know.
It was hard to identify any of the riders.
3:20 We are going down backwards from the next KOM. What a climb this must
have been. Kind of looks like Bald Peak only much longer. No idea how to
get home from here, so we will just enjoy the view. Very pretty countryside.
It is pretty much linked vineyards with very cool buildings. Did you know
that there is an Old Faithful Geyer in California.
Bye
Candi

Candi