trevpratt@aol.com
this should be on the back of the shirt
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From: Jim Moore
To: bike-central@bike-central.com; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tue, Jul 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] [OBRA Board] sandbaggers in STXC
I heard Ryan Weaver once ate a kids guinea pig because he ran out of cliff bars after a 185 mile ride.
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:03:30 -0700
From: bike-central@bike-central.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] [OBRA Board] sandbaggers in STXC
Totally.
On 7/13/2010 14:42, Mark J. Ginsberg wrote:
next OBRA shirt:
Ryan Weaver, Stealing 4th grader lunch money since 2009!
Mark J. Ginsberg
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From: Mike Murray
To: OBRA
Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 2:30:55 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] [OBRA Board] sandbaggers in STXC
As Brian List has pointed out, road and track categories do not have an
element of self selection like CCX and MTB. ALL new track riders start as
Cat 5 under OBRA rules, regardless of road or other discipline category. No
offense to Ryan Weaver, who is a great guy (Where you been? We’ve been
missing you), but we have had riders a whole lot faster and higher road
category than Ryan and started track them as Cat 5s. The few times we have
deviated from this policy we have had problems. Actually the system pretty
much depends on there being a stream of new higher category road riders to
push the pace and string out the lower category fields making them safer for
everyone. Most good road riders will progress quickly through the
categories. We tell them when they are qualified. Track is very much
different from road however and there have been some quite notable cases of
strong road riders who could never figure out the track deal or move out of
the lower categories.
Mike Murray
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Moore
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 13:09 PM
To: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] sandbaggers in STXC
My wife is a nurse, you do the math.
The beginners race is also for people who have never raced the STXC. Ryan
Weaver with the arm's and legs of a T-rex started in cat 4 on track last
year. He might as well as stolen fourth graders lunch money. see you next
week...
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From: brian.p.johnson@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:10:35 -0700
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] sandbaggers in STXC
I'm always a little surprised whenever I see team kits and expensive bikes
in the beginner class.
I know some folks ride the beginner race as a "pre-ride" or warm-up but it
seems a little unfair to the true beginners to have to deal with far more
experienced and aggressive racers.
-Brian
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