Mark J. Ginsberg

for those who have not seen Shawn's work, it is mighty fine. so fine even I have
nothing snarky to say about it!

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From: "shawn@ruckuscomponents.com"
To: obra@list.obra.org; David Diviney
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 12:09:19 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] custom frame work

I can attach almost anything to aluminum, ti, or carbon bikes (for example full
fender mounts on a road bike)

no bulky/knee cutting clamps either, the paint can be blended as well

probably not as cheap as a clamp though.

Shawn Small
Chief Engineer | Ruckus Components | rethinking carbon
shawn@ruckuscomponents.com|http://www.ruckuscomponents.com

Tim Schauer

Sughara-San,

No. No motor for you! You must battle with honor. And fuel your power your
bike with passion, not petro. But if you just make the motorbike noise
with your mouth as you ride it will feel like you are going faster. Also
if you alternate the motorbike sounds with periods of wind like whooshing
sounds, you would feel really fast while simultaneously enhancing the
experience for those of us racing with you at events. I try to do both of
these things when I race short track at PIR, while also yelling out to the
officials each lap and asking "What place am I? Am I closing the gap? How
far back am I? How far ahead are the leaders?" But my favorite thing to
ask anyone I see while racing, is "Is Kenji catching me?" :-)

Sincerely,

-Schauer-San

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Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:53 PM
To: shawn@ruckuscomponents.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] custom frame work

Can you attach a motor to my bike?

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:09 PM, shawn@ruckuscomponents.com
wrote:
> I can attach almost anything to aluminum, ti, or carbon bikes (for
> example full fender mounts on a road bike)
> no bulky/knee cutting clamps either, the paint can be blended as well
> probably not as cheap as a clamp though.
>
> Shawn Small
> Chief Engineer | Ruckus Components | rethinking carbon
> shawn@ruckuscomponents.com |http://www.ruckuscomponents.com
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Can you attach a motor to my bike?

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:09 PM, shawn@ruckuscomponents.com
wrote:
> I can attach almost anything to aluminum, ti, or carbon bikes (for
> example full fender mounts on a road bike)
> no bulky/knee cutting clamps either, the paint can be blended as well
> probably not as cheap as a clamp though.
>
> Shawn Small
> Chief Engineer | Ruckus Components | rethinking carbon
> shawn@ruckuscomponents.com |http://www.ruckuscomponents.com
>
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shawn@ruckuscomponents.com

I can attach almost anything to aluminum, ti, or carbon bikes (for
example full fender mounts on a road bike)

no bulky/knee cutting clamps either, the paint can be blended as well

probably not as cheap as a clamp though.

Shawn Small
Chief Engineer | Ruckus Components | rethinking carbon
shawn@ruckuscomponents.com |http://www.ruckuscomponents.com

David Diviney

Thanks everyone!  I got lots of good responses, ideas, links and pictures.  A bolt on stop seems like it will work well for me.
 
David

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From: Dave Palmer
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] custom frame work
To: joec@aracnet.com
Cc: "obra"
Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 10:46 AM

You can use full length housing and zip ties for your rear brake, but 
you still need a stop for the front derailleur. You could use a clamp 
on front derailleur hanger (like for a braze on front derailleur) and 
modify it to work as a cable stop.

Dave

On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Joe Cipale wrote:

> That is what I have on my fixed-gear bike. Works great.
>
> Joe
>
> Jerald M Powell wrote:
>
>> a number of years ago a n umber of folks used zip ties to tie down
>> full length cable housing... eliminates the need for a cable stop 
>> too.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, David Diviney wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a
>>> cable stop on an aluminum frame?  I have a CX bike made for a single
>>> ring, now I want a front derailleur and I can't run a cable.  Any
>>> other ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,  David
>>>
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Better yet! Just found a Problem Solver part for you at

http://problemsolversbike.com/index.php/products/backstop

Dave

On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Dave Palmer wrote:

> You can use full length housing and zip ties for your rear brake,
> but you still need a stop for the front derailleur. You could use a
> clamp on front derailleur hanger (like for a braze on front
> derailleur) and modify it to work as a cable stop.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Joe Cipale wrote:
>
>> That is what I have on my fixed-gear bike. Works great.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Jerald M Powell wrote:
>>
>>> a number of years ago a n umber of folks used zip ties to tie down
>>> full length cable housing... eliminates the need for a cable stop
>>> too.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, David Diviney wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a
>>>> cable stop on an aluminum frame? I have a CX bike made for a
>>>> single
>>>> ring, now I want a front derailleur and I can't run a cable. Any
>>>> other ideas?
>>>>
>>>> thanks, David
>>>>
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You can use full length housing and zip ties for your rear brake, but
you still need a stop for the front derailleur. You could use a clamp
on front derailleur hanger (like for a braze on front derailleur) and
modify it to work as a cable stop.

Dave

On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Joe Cipale wrote:

> That is what I have on my fixed-gear bike. Works great.
>
> Joe
>
> Jerald M Powell wrote:
>
>> a number of years ago a n umber of folks used zip ties to tie down
>> full length cable housing... eliminates the need for a cable stop
>> too.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, David Diviney wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a
>>> cable stop on an aluminum frame? I have a CX bike made for a single
>>> ring, now I want a front derailleur and I can't run a cable. Any
>>> other ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks, David
>>>
>>>
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KO Kevin

Full length housing may work for brakes, but most modern front derailleurs do not have a built in housing stop. You will need a frame mounted housing stop for them to work. I've seen bolt-through DT shifter bosses on several aluminum and titanium frames that were used to attach housing stops ( my Ti Serotta had them). Perhaps something like that will work?

Kevin
Eugene

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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:37 AM
To: Jerald M Powell
Cc: obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] custom frame work

That is what I have on my fixed-gear bike. Works great.

Joe

Jerald M Powell wrote:

> a number of years ago a n umber of folks used zip ties to tie down
> full length cable housing... eliminates the need for a cable stop too.
>
> Jerry
>
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, David Diviney wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a
> > cable stop on an aluminum frame? I have a CX bike made for a single
> > ring, now I want a front derailleur and I can't run a cable. Any
> > other ideas?
> >
> > thanks, David
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That is what I have on my fixed-gear bike. Works great.

Joe

Jerald M Powell wrote:

> a number of years ago a n umber of folks used zip ties to tie down
> full length cable housing... eliminates the need for a cable stop too.
>
> Jerry
>
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, David Diviney wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a
> > cable stop on an aluminum frame? I have a CX bike made for a single
> > ring, now I want a front derailleur and I can't run a cable. Any
> > other ideas?
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> > thanks, David
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Jerald M Powell

a number of years ago a n umber of folks used zip ties to tie down
full length cable housing... eliminates the need for a cable stop too.

Jerry

On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, David Diviney wrote:

> Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a
> cable stop on an aluminum frame? I have a CX bike made for a single
> ring, now I want a front derailleur and I can't run a cable. Any
> other ideas?
>
> thanks, David
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Mark J. Ginsberg

cable stop? cheap, simple, lightweight.

what are you thinking?

how about dura ace electronic? more expensive, heavier, but cooler than anyone
else out there.
that's the bike racer way!

M

Mark J. Ginsberg
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From: David Diviney
To: obra
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 11:28:48 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] custom frame work

Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a cable stop on
an aluminum frame? I have a CX bike made for a single ring, now I want a front
derailleur and I can't run a cable. Any other ideas?
>
>thanks, David
>
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Ron and Dorothy Strasser

If all else fails... one used to be able to buy clamps to fit frames with cablestops. Not sure if they still are sold and or if they would fit an alum. frame.
ron
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Subject: [OBRA Chat] custom frame work

Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a cable stop on an aluminum frame? I have a CX bike made for a single ring, now I want a front derailleur and I can't run a cable. Any other ideas?

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Does anyone know if any of Portland's frame builders can attach a cable stop on an aluminum frame?  I have a CX bike made for a single ring, now I want a front derailleur and I can't run a cable.  Any other ideas?
 
thanks,  David
 
 
 
 
 
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