They just keep coming out of the woodwork...

Becky and Nikos

2002-07-26

And Americans wonder why they are misunderstood by the rest of the world.



"For my money, being the greatest athlete in the world involves strength,

speed, agility, hand-eye coordination, mental toughness and the ability to

make your body do things that defy description."



If someone thinks that climbing up a Pyrenean mountain side faster than

everybody else does not defy description then what can one ( e.g. a

European) say about this person other than "ignorant American"? What does?

Hitting a ball with a bat? Mr. Borges is disrespectful and arrogant.



If it only took "pumping your legs up and down while your feet are strapped

to bicycle pedals" then I would be the greatest.



Anyway, Mr. Borges can have his own opinion. It makes me laugh.



Nikos Tzetos



Bill Hooper

2002-07-25



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My fellow cyclist:



This from LA's web site.



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NEW We're finding it hard to find the right words to describe the uncalled for and vicious attack by Ron Borges at MSNBC.com in his recent article "Great feat, but not a great athlete". We encourage you to read it for yourself and if you feel so motivated provide some constructive criticism via email to Mr. Borges at bor-@globe.com or to his editors at spo-@msnbc.com - poor form for all associated - very poor form...

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Perhaps we can educate those that are "less knowledgeable and quick to criticize" what cycling is really all about.



Regards,



Bill Hooper



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** Borges: Great feat, but not a great athlete **

Armstrong winning Tour is impressive, but its not athletic



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John K

2002-07-25

I haven't read anything this stupid, for a LONG time.



This guys article got be so heated I had to dig and

dig and eventually find him.....



Care to write Ron, and set him straight on a few

cycling issues?



bor-@globe.com







-John





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Armstrong winning Tour is impressive, but its not

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rick hammel

2002-07-25

for what it's worth you can vote on the MSNBC poll to

the left of the beginning of the full article.

currently 95% disagree with this Boxing / NFL sport

writer from Baston.









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 ** Borges: Great feat, but not a great athlete **

Armstrong winning Tour is impressive, but its not

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Roger-@lucy.com

2002-07-25

I think I am done with the media. It is not good for my blood pressure and

hence my training.



-r



Joe Cipale

2002-07-25

** Borges: Great feat, but not a great athlete **

Armstrong winning Tour is impressive, but its not athletic



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