Re: OBRA Digest, Vol 58, Issue 5

Robert%20Hughes

2010-10-04

please remove me from this email list.  i already read the OBRA site.

Thanks,

Rob
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   1. Tublar Wheels - RaceXLite (quinnkeogh@gmail.com)
   2. Re: Ring the bell: Question about 'Cross lapping &        manners
      (Maximillian Kirchoff)
   3. FS: Tubular Wheels - RaceXLite (Quinn Keogh)
   4. Re: Question about 'Cross lapping & manners
      (Ron and Dorothy Strasser)
   5. Re: Question about 'Cross lapping & manners (Shane Gibson)
   6. Re: Ring the bell: Question about 'Cross lapping &        manners
      (arcellus sykes)
   7. Re: Ring the bell: Question about 'Cross lapping        &        manners
      (Stephen Fitzgerald)
   8. Juniors Racing and Adults riding the course
      (tefloncat@comcast.net)
   9. Reminder - Meet the Team Ride - Team Oregon - Saturday,
      October 16th (Jim Anderson)
  10. Re: Ring the bell: Question about 'Cross lapping &        manners
      (Maximillian Kirchoff)
  11. Re: Question about 'Cross lapping & manners (Andy Kaylor)
  12. Heiser Farms Cx p/b NW Multisports (Jeff McNamee)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:02:16 -0700
From: quinnkeogh@gmail.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tublar Wheels - RaceXLite
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Wheelset - Bontrager RaceXLite Tubular.  
-2008 Model.  
-Only used for CX, raced 6 times, ridden maybe 10 times.
-DT hubs, paired spokes, aluminum rims.  Weight just under 1500g.

Quinn

541-731-1806

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:02:38 -0700
From: Maximillian Kirchoff
To: "Meadors, Ivan C"
Cc: "obra@list.obra.org"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ring the bell: Question about 'Cross lapping
        &        manners
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I actually do appreciate the dudes who communicate that. I got this from
many others in the front of the Cs. What I got from the leaders was a little
different.

______________{ :)
Max Kirchoff
(503) 770-0629
http://www.bikeyourself.com
http://www.maxisnow.com

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Meadors, Ivan C
wrote:

>  Maybe the riders coming-up from behind are being courteous by letting you
> know they are approaching!
>
> Might it be a good idea in the future to require riders over-taking others
> to sound a horn, alarm or *carry a bell*
>
> to ring before they pass ?  *more cowbell*!!
>
>
>
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Maximillian Kirchoff
> *Sent:* Monday, October 04, 2010 10:52 AM
> *To:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* [OBRA Chat] Question about 'Cross lapping & manners
>
>
>
> I wanted to post an outright complaint but realized that for starters, I
> wasn't confident in my understanding of the rules or "manners" of the
> situation, and secondly that this is more of an informative forum than a
> complaint forum.
>
>
>
> So here's my issue and my questions.
>
>
>
> I race Clydes and I've been in small and large races. I expect a certain
> amount of chaos to the Crusades, it's the nature of big gatherings in
> general. Lots of people = lots of possibilities for problems, etc.
>
> That said, after taking a nice spill, flatting, and running halfway across
> the course yesterday I found myself at the far back and had C leaders coming
> up on me. I had a few things yelled at me with those leading Cs coming
> through. "LEADER COMING THROUGH!!!!" "2ND COMING!!!" 3RD!!" "LEADERS! MAKE
> SPACE!" and other rather overly dramatic phrases about picking my line and
> making sure I don't ruin their placements. I believe to one of them I
> yelled, "I'M BLEEDING, TIRED, AND PITTED ONCE ALREADY....YOU FIND A WAY
> AROUND!" to which I got some nasty comments. Now I'm not trying to
> back-handed complain about this, stuff happens. People get excited and they
> don't want some Clyde crashing them out. I just want to know the facts of
> what I should/shouldn't be doing here and what the expectations are.
>
>
>
> Is there some expectation for me to neutralize for these guys?
>
> I'm still racing my race, and picking the lines I want that are in front of
> me. I'm not going to go bump these guys, but do I really need to do anything
> to modify my race if they come up on me?
>
>
>
>
>
> P.S. Thanks to all the dudes who weren't yelling their heads off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________{ :)
> Max Kirchoff
> (503) 770-0629
> http://www.bikeyourself.com
> http://www.maxisnow.com
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:04:21 -0700
From: Quinn Keogh
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: Tubular Wheels - RaceXLite
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Some other critical info... $300

-Q

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:10:30 -0700
From: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
To: "Maximillian Kirchoff" ,        
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question about 'Cross lapping & manners
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I am far from the official voice, but I would just try to advance my bike (carry/push etc) in a manner that was the most out of the way of the people moving faster.  I would just do this as a courtesy to them...be they 1st or 43rd.  There will be some giving you grief, and probably some giving you support.  Yes you are racing and it is important for the person in 1st to remember the two of you could reverse situations at the next race.  I await the "official response".  Also I remember my Clyde friend Chipp Ross last year pointing out that the Clydes can always "Trample-Trample-Trample".... so that C leader should watch out and not get you (or your fellow Clydes) worked up!  :-)  He could get caught in a stampede!
ron
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Maximillian Kirchoff
  To: obra@list.obra.org
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:52 AM
  Subject: [OBRA Chat] Question about 'Cross lapping & manners

  I wanted to post an outright complaint but realized that for starters, I wasn't confident in my understanding of the rules or "manners" of the situation, and secondly that this is more of an informative forum than a complaint forum.

  So here's my issue and my questions.

  I race Clydes and I've been in small and large races. I expect a certain amount of chaos to the Crusades, it's the nature of big gatherings in general. Lots of people = lots of possibilities for problems, etc.
  That said, after taking a nice spill, flatting, and running halfway across the course yesterday I found myself at the far back and had C leaders coming up on me. I had a few things yelled at me with those leading Cs coming through. "LEADER COMING THROUGH!!!!" "2ND COMING!!!" 3RD!!" "LEADERS! MAKE SPACE!" and other rather overly dramatic phrases about picking my line and making sure I don't ruin their placements. I believe to one of them I yelled, "I'M BLEEDING, TIRED, AND PITTED ONCE ALREADY....YOU FIND A WAY AROUND!" to which I got some nasty comments. Now I'm not trying to back-handed complain about this, stuff happens. People get excited and they don't want some Clyde crashing them out. I just want to know the facts of what I should/shouldn't be doing here and what the expectations are.

  Is there some expectation for me to neutralize for these guys?
  I'm still racing my race, and picking the lines I want that are in front of me. I'm not going to go bump these guys, but do I really need to do anything to modify my race if they come up on me?

  P.S. Thanks to all the dudes who weren't yelling their heads off.

  ______________{ :)
  Max Kirchoff
  (503) 770-0629
  http://www.bikeyourself.com
  http://www.maxisnow.com

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:11:45 -0700
From: Shane Gibson
To: Maximillian Kirchoff
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question about 'Cross lapping & manners
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Hey Max,

I'm new to this whole racing scene - so I can't offer any real perspective
on "what's right".  I can say that the comments you provide as examples -
are rather piss poor manners, in my opinion.  I think every racer out there
has a right to race their race.  If you're passing someone else, regular
rules should apply, i.e.

  * make the pass in an appropriate place that isn't going to upset/crash
out any other racer (yourself, the passee, or neighboring racers)
  * let the passee know you're there - a simple "on your right" / "on your
left" so they have a heads up and can (attempt to) hold their line
  * pass quickly
  * and for GOODNESS SAKE make sure you've cleared the passee before cutting
in

I don't care if your racing for Clydesdale of the Universe (we all know that
the Clydesdales are where all the love should be, right?), or 105th of 110
racers.  We're all out there to have OUR race.

In my short experience, I've seen both poor passing and passee behavior.  I
spent a half a lap at the first Blind Date trying to pass a rider I lapped
who kept swerving into my line as I'd call it out ... "on your left" I'd say
... then he (Number 313) would swerve in front of me - nearly causing a
crash as he choked off my pass line.  Then I'd drop back, and try the right
... same results.   I got surly and snapped at him after the 5th attempt
that he cut me off.  But heck - maybe the poor bastard was just oxygen
starved and confused; I really shouldn't have snapped at him.

I always try to call out my passing line, which seems to engender some odd
reactions.   Mostly thought, I believe(?) it's appreciated, so I don't
startle a slower rider when I blast by them.  I've been passed like that
just when I'm about to make a turn - and it scares the heck out of me -
since I was just about to lean "that way" and it would have been disaster if
that rider was a tenth of a second later blasting past me.

Just because you are the leader, doesn't mean the rest of the racers should
neutralize for you.  Hell - that's what racing is about.  Picking your
lines, picking your passing points, executing on them, reacting to the
course, and reacting to what goes on around you.

If you can't do that - go back to kindergarten, and learn some basic
manners.  I'm always surprised at how many people out there would still get
an "F" in manners from a kindergarten teacher.   Oxygen starvation and
testosterone overload are a poor excuse for pathetic manners.

Most of all - just have fun.  It's not like we're racing for a $20,000 prize
purse.

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."   - Sun Tzu

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Maximillian Kirchoff wrote:

> I wanted to post an outright complaint but realized that for starters, I
> wasn't confident in my understanding of the rules or "manners" of the
> situation, and secondly that this is more of an informative forum than a
> complaint forum.
>
> So here's my issue and my questions.
>
> I race Clydes and I've been in small and large races. I expect a certain
> amount of chaos to the Crusades, it's the nature of big gatherings in
> general. Lots of people = lots of possibilities for problems, etc.
> That said, after taking a nice spill, flatting, and running halfway across
> the course yesterday I found myself at the far back and had C leaders coming
> up on me. I had a few things yelled at me with those leading Cs coming
> through. "LEADER COMING THROUGH!!!!" "2ND COMING!!!" 3RD!!" "LEADERS! MAKE
> SPACE!" and other rather overly dramatic phrases about picking my line and
> making sure I don't ruin their placements. I believe to one of them I
> yelled, "I'M BLEEDING, TIRED, AND PITTED ONCE ALREADY....YOU FIND A WAY
> AROUND!" to which I got some nasty comments. Now I'm not trying to
> back-handed complain about this, stuff happens. People get excited and they
> don't want some Clyde crashing them out. I just want to know the facts of
> what I should/shouldn't be doing here and what the expectations are.
>
> Is there some expectation for me to neutralize for these guys?
> I'm still racing my race, and picking the lines I want that are in front of
> me. I'm not going to go bump these guys, but do I really need to do anything
> to modify my race if they come up on me?
>
>
> P.S. Thanks to all the dudes who weren't yelling their heads off.
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________{ :)
> Max Kirchoff
> (503) 770-0629
> http://www.bikeyourself.com
> http://www.maxisnow.com
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:12:28 -0700
From: arcellus sykes
To: "obra@list.obra.org"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ring the bell: Question about 'Cross lapping
        &        manners
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I'm not a leader in the C's but I do often pass the back of the Clyde pack.
I don't expect them to get out of the way, just hold a predictable line.  I
also don't try to pass in tight, technical spots, and when I do pass I try
to let them know that I'm a C (primarily so they don't feel the urge to
chase me, that's the last thing I need).

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Maximillian Kirchoff wrote:

> I actually do appreciate the dudes who communicate that. I got this from
> many others in the front of the Cs. What I got from the leaders was a little
> different.
>
>
> ______________{ :)
> Max Kirchoff
> (503) 770-0629
> http://www.bikeyourself.com
> http://www.maxisnow.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Meadors, Ivan C > wrote:
>
>>  Maybe the riders coming-up from behind are being courteous by letting
>> you know they are approaching!
>>
>> Might it be a good idea in the future to require riders over-taking others
>> to sound a horn, alarm or *carry a bell*
>>
>> to ring before they pass ?  *more cowbell*!!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Maximillian Kirchoff
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 04, 2010 10:52 AM
>> *To:* obra@list.obra.org
>> *Subject:* [OBRA Chat] Question about 'Cross lapping & manners
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to post an outright complaint but realized that for starters, I
>> wasn't confident in my understanding of the rules or "manners" of the
>> situation, and secondly that this is more of an informative forum than a
>> complaint forum.
>>
>>
>>
>> So here's my issue and my questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> I race Clydes and I've been in small and large races. I expect a certain
>> amount of chaos to the Crusades, it's the nature of big gatherings in
>> general. Lots of people = lots of possibilities for problems, etc.
>>
>> That said, after taking a nice spill, flatting, and running halfway across
>> the course yesterday I found myself at the far back and had C leaders coming
>> up on me. I had a few things yelled at me with those leading Cs coming
>> through. "LEADER COMING THROUGH!!!!" "2ND COMING!!!" 3RD!!" "LEADERS! MAKE
>> SPACE!" and other rather overly dramatic phrases about picking my line and
>> making sure I don't ruin their placements. I believe to one of them I
>> yelled, "I'M BLEEDING, TIRED, AND PITTED ONCE ALREADY....YOU FIND A WAY
>> AROUND!" to which I got some nasty comments. Now I'm not trying to
>> back-handed complain about this, stuff happens. People get excited and they
>> don't want some Clyde crashing them out. I just want to know the facts of
>> what I should/shouldn't be doing here and what the expectations are.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there some expectation for me to neutralize for these guys?
>>
>> I'm still racing my race, and picking the lines I want that are in front
>> of me. I'm not going to go bump these guys, but do I really need to do
>> anything to modify my race if they come up on me?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> P.S. Thanks to all the dudes who weren't yelling their heads off.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________{ :)
>> Max Kirchoff
>> (503) 770-0629
>> http://www.bikeyourself.com
>> http://www.maxisnow.com
>>
>
>
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Bassist
971-221-4042
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 11:18:50 -0700
From: Stephen Fitzgerald
To: arcellus sykes
Cc: "obra@list.obra.org"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ring the bell: Question about 'Cross lapping
        &        manners
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  Maybe the dudes who are yelling are just panicked and full of
adrenaline and desperation. they are in the pain cave and not thinking
clearly. Being in the front of a race is absolutely terrifying. The
whole world is out to get you. I'm sure in real life they'd be nice and
buy you a beer (but only in Astoria!).

These races are so huge you are going to see the entire spectrum of
human emotion out there. I'd personally just take it in stride.

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 18:19:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: tefloncat@comcast.net
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Juniors Racing and Adults riding the course
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In the last 2 juniors race, adults preriding the course have been doing so while the kids are racing. The kids stop and let them go by, or it makes them sketchy with adults passing. Can the adults PLEASE wait until the kids?race is over, and preride at the appropriate time. How, upset would you be if they rode during YOUR race.

Thanks

Eric

Cyclocross Dad
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 11:21:54 -0700
From: Jim Anderson
To: ,        "obra@list.obra.org"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Reminder - Meet the Team Ride - Team Oregon -
        Saturday,        October 16th
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Team Oregon is one of the state's largest amateur racing teams.  We have 74
members. We are an open team (all are welcome to join), and we have riders
in all racing categories from beginner to elite racers who race primarily
all disciplines.  We focus on making the sport of cycling accessible to all
riders and helping them meet their goals.

Team Oregon?s meet the team ride ends at Laurelwood NW Public House on 23rd
and Kearney in NW Portland for a special lunch/snacks!

Ride meets at Upper Echelon Fitness (NW Portland) 1420 NW 17th, Suite 388.
Parking is available nearby.

Please see our most recent newsletter for Summer 2010:
Team Oregon Summer Newsletter (web resolution ? 2MB PDF File)
http://teamoregon.org/images/teamoimages/Team_O_Newsletter.pdf

Photos of Team Oregon racing:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21853947@N04/

The ride is approximately 35 miles out around Sauvie Island (or similar
loop) and back.  Bring a working road bike and helmet and be sure to wear
clothing appropriate for the weather conditions.

More information on Team Oregon or to join is at:
Www.teamoregon.org

Meet the Team:
Team Oregon
10am, Saturday Oct. 16th, 2010
2hr easy ride
Meet: Upper Echelon Fitness (NW Portland) 1420 NW 17th, Suite 388
End: Laurelwood NW Public House (NW Portland) 2327 NW Kearney Street

Special meet the team ride lunch and appetizer deals. Bike parking
available.
Meet for ride, ride with us or meet for lunch!

Thanks,
Jim Anderson
President, Team Oregon

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:27:04 -0700
From: Maximillian Kirchoff
To: Stephen Fitzgerald
Cc: "obra@list.obra.org"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ring the bell: Question about 'Cross lapping
        &        manners
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I've already gotten a TON of responses.

Thanks for all the input.

Just to be clear, I'm not taking the situation very heavily/seriously I was
more curious about protocol.
I think I have a better idea and have been instinctually doing the right
thing - making space when I can and trying not to tangle up with faster
dudes.

Thanks again!

______________{ :)
Max Kirchoff
(503) 770-0629
http://www.bikeyourself.com
http://www.maxisnow.com

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Stephen Fitzgerald wrote:

>  Maybe the dudes who are yelling are just panicked and full of adrenaline
> and desperation. they are in the pain cave and not thinking clearly. Being
> in the front of a race is absolutely terrifying. The whole world is out to
> get you. I'm sure in real life they'd be nice and buy you a beer (but only
> in Astoria!).
>
> These races are so huge you are going to see the entire spectrum of human
> emotion out there. I'd personally just take it in stride.
>
>
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>
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> www.monovich.com/perpetualthree/
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:45:29 -0700
From: Andy Kaylor
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question about 'Cross lapping & manners
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I think this is a great discussion to have regularly.

I can answer as someone with a great deal of experience in being passed, and I want to start out by saying that 99% of my experiences with this are outstandingly positive.  Usually, either somebody goes by me cleanly without announcement, or they give me a heads up from behind ("on your left").

If I'm confident that they're not on my lap and that I can give them the line they want and still control my bike, I give it to them, whether it's the line I would have preferred or not.  When possible, I try to respond by saying, "You've got it" or something as I move over.  Of course, there are times when somebody wants to pass me in a spot where there's only one line I think I can safely navigate.  In that case, I try indicate "just a minute" and hold my line.

I think all anybody really expects on either side is predictable behavior, and a little courtesy is a nice bonus.

Sometime earlier this year, I had a guy behind me saying "stay right" but the first couple of times all I heard was "right" and thought he wanted to pass on my right, so I did the opposite of what he wanted.  That happens, I guess.  Hopefully everyone realizes that and is able to at least release their frustration later.

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:56:23 -0700
From: Jeff McNamee
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Heiser Farms Cx p/b NW Multisports
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Buy Local Cycling and Cap Velo will be hosting the 3rd annual Heiser
Farms cyclocross race in Dayton, Oregon, Saturday, October 9th, 2010.
This will be the second year that Heiser Farms will also host the Oregon
Junior Cyclocross Series.  Full race details are available here:

http://www.buylocalcycling.com/HeiserFarms2010/

We'll be racing up, down, and around a picturesque Heiser pumpkin
farm. Heiser Farms recently
renovated an old white barn and will offer a new staging/start area.

See course map here:  http://tiny.cc/k3aho

The race will be taking place during Heiser's Brats & Bluegrass
Festival, benefiting the Yamhill Co Foodbank, so there will be
entertainment and refreshments along with pumpkins for sale and
activities for all.  If you're not racing at Rainier consider the
5k run on Sunday organized by XDogs.

Some other details:

1.  Parking:  Please park on the N. side of Grand Island Loop Rd (see
map) across from the new white barn.

2.  Numbers:  We'll be using Cross Crusade numbers.

3.  OBRA online reg available.  Online reg will close at 12 pm on Friday.

4.  Start:  The start and registration will be near the WHITE barn
(21428 Southeast Grand Island Road).
The start is ~1/2 mile long.  Succeeding laps and finish will occur SE
of the start area.  A shuttle (a.k.a. a hay ride) will be available
for spectators that don't want to walk over to view the main race
course.

5.  Prizes:  Cat A Men & Women (cash 10 deep).  NW Multisports online
store gift certificates (3 deep) for all other cats.  Prizes,
including age appropriate Golden Valley Brew, will be distributed after
the 3pm race.

Thanks to our generous sponsors:

Northwest Multisports
Golden Valley Brew Pub
Metafilter
Corsa Concepts
Showers Pass
Desalvo
Bikepeddler
Heltzel Williams Law

See you at the Farm,
Jeff and Jesse

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