Mike Murray

Actually we can do some of that stuff with the current equipment we have.
We can zoom and enhance the picture by changing the brightness, contrast and
gamma. People should stop by an look at what we can and cannot do. We are
stuck with the pixel limit and light reflected back to the camera though.
Can't make up data that never made it to the camera.

Mike Murray

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk

Just enhance it, Mike. What's the problem?

On 11/8/10 12:46 PM, "Mike Murray" wrote:

>Helmet numbers as well as shoulder numbers will be a good idea. The catch
>is that they will be smaller and therefore more difficult to read,
>especially with the camera. Unfortunately, unlike on the TV crime shows,
>video cameras do not have infinite pixel density so small things are
>harder to see. More numbers, more better.
>Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk

Just enhance it, Mike. What's the problem?

On 11/8/10 12:46 PM, "Mike Murray" wrote:

>Helmet numbers as well as shoulder numbers will be a good idea. The catch
>is that they will be smaller and therefore more difficult to read,
>especially with the camera. Unfortunately, unlike on the TV crime shows,
>video cameras do not have infinite pixel density so small things are
>harder to see. More numbers, more better.
>Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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Mike Murray

Katie was spraying people while we did a run out after the finish and having WAY too much fun doing it. Our on the fly try to fix the mud covered number initially included trying to spray numbers as rider went by. We gave this up pretty quick when it didn't work. In fact, even with the rider standing still and using the portable power washer it was hard to get that stuff off. Sarah must have just been lucky and/or more fastidious so she didn't need as much cleaning.

To address Ron's suggestion about pull tabs a la mtb racing. Finish order for cross is just one piece of the puzzle. In contrast to most mtn bike races, cross racing will have people on different laps which causes most of the difficulty with results. The run out like we did yesterday for some fields can be useful but generally it is not needed. Now if we could get people to do it every lap ...
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At our start, they said they would spray our numbers with water if
they were obscured by mud. I thought that was pretty clever!

I was looking forward to the head-start on my cleanup, but didn't get
sprayed and didn't notice anyone getting sprayed. Of course, maybe I
was oblivious - or maybe I just wasn't muddy enough to merit spraying
(hard to imagine).

Sarah

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Mike Murray wrote:
> Helmet numbers as well as shoulder numbers will be a good idea. The catch is that they will be smaller and therefore more difficult to read, especially with the camera. Unfortunately, unlike on the TV crime shows, video cameras do not have infinite pixel density so small things are harder to see. More numbers, more better.
> Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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Matthew Haughey

It's pretty easy to scan the Cross Crusdae number and print out small
4" wide versions of the scan on an inkjet printer. I was going to run
shoulder numbers at PIR but it seemed like I was trying too hard
(especially given my absolute lock on 150th place in every Masters C
field)

Matt

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Roger Joys
wrote:
> The MFG races in Seattle use 1 shoulder number in addition to a back number. Seems like an additional spot would be good.
>
> Judging from the pictures of myself and others, my arms were less muddy than my back.
>
> -r
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Troy Severson wrote:
>
>> Given the issues with number placement on jerseys and counting muddy numbers we should potentially look at duplicate helmet numbers for CCX?  With proper placement, it seems a helmet number could easily provide a nice way to confirm numbers for either poor placement on the body and/or muddy conditions like Wash County yesterday.  Thoughts? _______________________________________________
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The MFG races in Seattle use 1 shoulder number in addition to a back number. Seems like an additional spot would be good.

Judging from the pictures of myself and others, my arms were less muddy than my back.

-r
On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Troy Severson wrote:

> Given the issues with number placement on jerseys and counting muddy numbers we should potentially look at duplicate helmet numbers for CCX? With proper placement, it seems a helmet number could easily provide a nice way to confirm numbers for either poor placement on the body and/or muddy conditions like Wash County yesterday. Thoughts? _______________________________________________
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Sarah Tisdale

At our start, they said they would spray our numbers with water if
they were obscured by mud. I thought that was pretty clever!

I was looking forward to the head-start on my cleanup, but didn't get
sprayed and didn't notice anyone getting sprayed. Of course, maybe I
was oblivious - or maybe I just wasn't muddy enough to merit spraying
(hard to imagine).

Sarah

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Mike Murray wrote:
> Helmet numbers as well as shoulder numbers will be a good idea. The catch is that they will be smaller and therefore more difficult to read, especially with the camera. Unfortunately, unlike on the TV crime shows, video cameras do not have infinite pixel density so small things are harder to see. More numbers, more better.
> Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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Helmet numbers as well as shoulder numbers will be a good idea. The catch is that they will be smaller and therefore more difficult to read, especially with the camera. Unfortunately, unlike on the TV crime shows, video cameras do not have infinite pixel density so small things are harder to see. More numbers, more better.
Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Even better, here's a solution that is available with an RFID chip
built in!











On 11/8/2010 12:30 PM, Troy Severson wrote:

Given the issues with number placement on jerseys and
counting muddy numbers we should potentially look at duplicate
helmet numbers for CCX?  With proper placement, it seems a helmet
number could easily provide a nice way to confirm numbers for
either poor placement on the body and/or muddy conditions like
Wash County yesterday.  Thoughts?

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We have talked about it alot. I am going to ask for an inside shoulder
number for next year.

Candi

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Numbers at CCX??

Given the issues with number placement on jerseys and counting muddy numbers
we should potentially look at duplicate helmet numbers for CCX? With proper
placement, it seems a helmet number could easily provide a nice way to
confirm numbers for either poor placement on the body and/or muddy
conditions like Wash County yesterday. Thoughts?
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Troy Severson

Given the issues with number placement on jerseys and counting muddy numbers
we should potentially look at duplicate helmet numbers for CCX? With proper
placement, it seems a helmet number could easily provide a nice way to
confirm numbers for either poor placement on the body and/or muddy
conditions like Wash County yesterday. Thoughts?