new chip perspective

shane.young@comcast.net

2010-11-10

Mike would get to spray people in the face with the pressure washer.

----- Original Message -----
From: joec@aracnet.com
To: "shane young"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2010 6:10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective

How would you accomadate for mud/road rash? =D

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:24:46 +0000 (UTC), shane.young@comcast.net
wrote:
> Facial recognition.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Murray"
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2010 3:39:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective
>
> Rest assured that that here are plenty of people already looking at
> this problem. I can speak about it at length and those around me are
> beginning to tire of me doing that. If anyone wants me to give them
> all the gory details I can do that but it would probably be better to
> do that in a different venue. Conversely, if there is anyone who has
> information I would like to hear that (assuming it is more than
> “they used chips at this race and they worked great” – I have
> heard plenty of that and the full back story is never quite as rosy).
>
>
> Mike Murray
>
>  obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] Ron
> and Dorothy Strasser
>  Tuesday, November 09, 2010 14:18 PM
>  obra@list.obra.org
>  [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective
>
> We live inside an important nest of high-tech. There are a good
> number of "very smart people" who are trained to solve problems of all
> sorts. In our case rider id in a nasty outdoor environment is the
> problem. I suggest instead of re-hashing all the old crap that just
> keeps getting spit out about this chip or that.... that someone who
> knows some high-tech brains, go talk to some or one of them and get
> the creative juices flowing in him/her. This is the same thing I do
> when doing artwork.... I do not let the box be my limit. The creative
> high tech folks are the same. The thrive on this sort of thing. And
> they live right here. Heck. Maybe some of them even ride bikes!!!!! We
> need to not "depend on someone else from the East coast or wherever to
> take care of us", but get our local creative brain trust to tackle the
> mud-caked rider problem. DaVinci did not let the known be his limits.
> Lets get some Silicone Forest people to just flat out make this happen
> and in a way that does not break the bank. It can be done if someone
> (with the tech knowledge) wants to make it happen. We can put humans
> on the moon, talk on phones without lines, see into space beyond our
> imagination, create missiles that can hit targets thousands of miles
> from where fired and even a TV/ Auto remote control. Can't we just get
> a system that reads a chip when a rider goes by the finish line? I
> don't really care about the systems out there already... if they were
> so wonderful, we would have one right? We have the biggest problem in
> the world (Cross Crusade hordes) and the people right here to build
> the new mouse trap.... chip system. Maybe it is not even a chip
> system....but that seems the logical idea at present. Chips are
> amazing. They can have info. upgraded (cat B to A for example). So
> Oregon...can we really be pioneers or dreamers?  
>
> So all of the negative brains out there go to work and start figuring
> out why this will not work or whatever excuse you choose to come up
> with, that always seems to happen. I just know that if nobody in a
> hotbed of high-tech creativity like we live in here who also has the
> first hand environment challenges (muddy cross races) to use as the
> lab..........then someone else (in a land far, far away) will do it
> instead. I suggest people let their high tech friends know.. and if
> they are negative...move on to the next one you know until someone
> finds the person "excited" about taking it on. The business part will
> come after the problem is solved. There is always an excuse to say it
> can't be done.....but us bikers know we can make it to the finish.
> There are new things to be discovered, we just need to get out of "the
> line" to discover them. I just want a little chip in a cloth container
> I pin on my jersey that gives the officials all the info they need to
> place me even if I just nudge the rider behind me by 1/100th of a
> second. I am free, the mouse trap gets him! :-) This simple
> information even though our numbers are covered with mud.  
>
> just my several dollars. Thanks for considering.
>
> ron
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joec@aracnet.com

2010-11-10

LOL Harsh, Tom. But funny.
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 17:21:41 -0800, "Tom Hoffman"
wrote:
> I don't think any chip system can ever make Mike as happy as a
> pressure washer.
> Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: shane.young@comcast.net
> Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 4:24 pm
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective
> To:
>
> Facial recognition.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Murray"
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2010 3:39:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective
>
> Rest assured that that here are plenty of people already looking at
> this problem. I can speak about it at length and those around me are
> beginning to tire of me doing that. If anyone wants me to give them
> all the gory details I can do that but it would probably be better to
> do that in a different venue. Conversely, if there is anyone who has
> information I would like to hear that (assuming it is more than
> “they used chips at this race and they worked great” – I have
> heard plenty of that and the full back story is never quite as rosy).
>
>
> Mike Murray
>
> obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] Ron
> and Dorothy Strasser
> Tuesday, November 09, 2010 14:18 PM
> obra@list.obra.org
> [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective
>
> We live inside an important nest of high-tech. There are a good
> number of "very smart people" who are trained to solve problems of all
> sorts. In our case rider id in a nasty outdoor environment is the
> problem. I suggest instead of re-hashing all the old crap that just
> keeps getting spit out about this chip or that.... that someone who
> knows some high-tech brains, go talk to some or one of them and get
> the creative juices flowing in him/her. This is the same thing I do
> when doing artwork.... I do not let the box be my limit. The creative
> high tech folks are the same. The thrive on this sort of thing. And
> they live right here. Heck. Maybe some of them even ride bikes!!!!! We
> need to not "depend on someone else from the East coast or wherever to
> take care of us", but get our local creative brain trust to tackle the
> mud-caked rider problem. DaVinci did not let the known be his limits.
> Lets get some Silicone Forest people to just flat out make this happen
> and in a way that does not break the bank. It can be done if someone
> (with the tech knowledge) wants to make it happen. We can put humans
> on the moon, talk on phones without lines, see into space beyond our
> imagination, create missiles that can hit targets thousands of miles
> from where fired and even a TV/ Auto remote control. Can't we just get
> a system that reads a chip when a rider goes by the finish line? I
> don't really care about the systems out there already... if they were
> so wonderful, we would have one right? We have the biggest problem in
> the world (Cross Crusade hordes) and the people right here to build
> the new mouse trap.... chip system. Maybe it is not even a chip
> system.....but that seems the logical idea at present. Chips are
> amazing. They can have info. upgraded (cat B to A for example). So
> Oregon....can we really be pioneers or dreamers?
>
> So all of the negative brains out there go to work and start figuring
> out why this will not work or whatever excuse you choose to come up
> with, that always seems to happen. I just know that if nobody in a
> hotbed of high-tech creativity like we live in here who also has the
> first hand environment challenges (muddy cross races) to use as the
> lab..........then someone else (in a land far, far away) will do it
> instead. I suggest people let their high tech friends know.. and if
> they are negative...move on to the next one you know until someone
> finds the person "excited" about taking it on. The business part will
> come after the problem is solved. There is always an excuse to say it
> can't be done.....but us bikers know we can make it to the finish.
> There are new things to be discovered, we just need to get out of "the
> line" to discover them. I just want a little chip in a cloth container
> I pin on my jersey that gives the officials all the info they need to
> place me even if I just nudge the rider behind me by 1/100th of a
> second. I am free, the mouse trap gets him! :-) This simple
> information even though our numbers are covered with mud.
>
> just my several dollars. Thanks for considering.
>
> ron
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> Fac


joec@aracnet.com

2010-11-10

How would you accomadate for mud/road rash? =D

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:24:46 +0000 (UTC), shane.young@comcast.net
wrote:
> Facial recognition.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Murray"
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2010 3:39:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective
>
> Rest assured that that here are plenty of people already looking at
> this problem. I can speak about it at length and those around me are
> beginning to tire of me doing that. If anyone wants me to give them
> all the gory details I can do that but it would probably be better to
> do that in a different venue. Conversely, if there is anyone who has
> information I would like to hear that (assuming it is more than
> “they used chips at this race and they worked great” – I have
> heard plenty of that and the full back story is never quite as rosy).
>
>
> Mike Murray
>
> obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] Ron
> and Dorothy Strasser
> Tuesday, November 09, 2010 14:18 PM
> obra@list.obra.org
> [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective
>
> We live inside an important nest of high-tech. There are a good
> number of "very smart people" who are trained to solve problems of all
> sorts. In our case rider id in a nasty outdoor environment is the
> problem. I suggest instead of re-hashing all the old crap that just
> keeps getting spit out about this chip or that.... that someone who
> knows some high-tech brains, go talk to some or one of them and get
> the creative juices flowing in him/her. This is the same thing I do
> when doing artwork.... I do not let the box be my limit. The creative
> high tech folks are the same. The thrive on this sort of thing. And
> they live right here. Heck. Maybe some of them even ride bikes!!!!! We
> need to not "depend on someone else from the East coast or wherever to
> take care of us", but get our local creative brain trust to tackle the
> mud-caked rider problem. DaVinci did not let the known be his limits.
> Lets get some Silicone Forest people to just flat out make this happen
> and in a way that does not break the bank. It can be done if someone
> (with the tech knowledge) wants to make it happen. We can put humans
> on the moon, talk on phones without lines, see into space beyond our
> imagination, create missiles that can hit targets thousands of miles
> from where fired and even a TV/ Auto remote control. Can't we just get
> a system that reads a chip when a rider goes by the finish line? I
> don't really care about the systems out there already... if they were
> so wonderful, we would have one right? We have the biggest problem in
> the world (Cross Crusade hordes) and the people right here to build
> the new mouse trap.... chip system. Maybe it is not even a chip
> system....but that seems the logical idea at present. Chips are
> amazing. They can have info. upgraded (cat B to A for example). So
> Oregon...can we really be pioneers or dreamers?
>
> So all of the negative brains out there go to work and start figuring
> out why this will not work or whatever excuse you choose to come up
> with, that always seems to happen. I just know that if nobody in a
> hotbed of high-tech creativity like we live in here who also has the
> first hand environment challenges (muddy cross races) to use as the
> lab..........then someone else (in a land far, far away) will do it
> instead. I suggest people let their high tech friends know.. and if
> they are negative...move on to the next one you know until someone
> finds the person "excited" about taking it on. The business part will
> come after the problem is solved. There is always an excuse to say it
> can't be done.....but us bikers know we can make it to the finish.
> There are new things to be discovered, we just need to get out of "the
> line" to discover them. I just want a little chip in a cloth container
> I pin on my jersey that gives the officials all the info they need to
> place me even if I just nudge the rider behind me by 1/100th of a
> second. I am free, the mouse trap gets him! :-) This simple
> information even though our numbers are covered with mud.
>
> just my several dollars. Thanks for considering.
>
> ron
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
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> Fac


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2010-11-10

I don't think any chip system can ever make Mike as happy as a pressure washer.
Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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shane.young@comcast.net

2010-11-10

Facial recognition .

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Murray"
To: obra @list. obra .org
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2010 3:39:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ OBRA Chat] new chip perspective

Rest assured that that here are plenty of people already looking at this problem.  I can speak about it at length and those around me are beginning to tire of me doing that.  If anyone wants me to give them all the gory details I can do that but it would probably be better to do that in a different venue.   Conversely, if there is anyone who has information I would like to hear that (assuming it is more than “they used chips at this race and they worked great” – I have heard plenty of that and the full back story is never quite as rosy).

Mike Murray

From: obra -bounces@list. obra .org [ mailto : obra -bounces@list. obra .org] On Behalf Of Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 14:18 PM
To: obra @list. obra .org
Subject: [ OBRA Chat] new chip perspective

We live inside an important nest of high-tech.  There are a good number of "very smart people" who are trained to solve problems of all sorts.  In our case rider id in a nasty outdoor environment is the problem.  I suggest instead of re-hashing all the old crap that just keeps getting spit out about this chip or that.... that someone who knows some high-tech brains, go talk to some or one of them and get the creative juices flowing in him/her.  This is the same thing I do when doing artwork.... I do not let the box be my limit.  The creative high tech folks are the same.  The thrive on this sort of thing.  And they live right here.  Heck.  Maybe some of them even ride bikes!!!!!  We need to not "depend on someone else from the East coast or wherever to take care of us", but get our local creative brain trust to tackle the mud-caked rider problem.  DaVinci did not let the known be his limits.  Lets get some Silicone Forest people to just flat out make this happen and in a way that does not break the bank.  It can be done if someone (with the tech knowledge) wants to make it happen.  We can put humans on the moon, talk on phones without lines, see into space beyond our imagination, create missiles that can hit targets thousands of miles from where fired and even a TV/ Auto remote control.  Can't we just get a system that reads a chip when a rider goes by the finish line?  I don't really care about the systems out there already... if they were so wonderful, we would have one right?  We have the biggest problem in the world (Cross Crusade hordes) and the people right here to build the new mouse trap.... chip system.   Maybe it is not even a chip system....but that seems the logical idea at present.  Chips are amazing.  They can have info. upgraded (cat B to A for example).  So Oregon...can we really be pioneers or dreamers? 

So all of the negative brains out there go to work and start figuring out why this will not work or whatever excuse you choose to come up with, that always seems to happen.  I just know that if nobody in a hotbed of high-tech creativity like we live in here who also has the first hand environment challenges (muddy cross races) to use as the lab..........then someone else (in a land far, far away) will do it instead.  I suggest people let their high tech friends know.. and if they are negative...move on to the next one you know until someone finds the person "excited" about taking it on.  The business part will come after the problem is solved.  There is always an excuse to say it can't be done.....but us bikers know we can make it to the finish.  There are new things to be discovered, we just need to get out of "the line" to discover them.  I just want a little chip in a cloth container I pin on my jersey that gives the officials all the info they need to place me even if I just nudge the rider behind me by 1/100th of a second.  I am free, the mouse trap gets him! :-)  This simple information even though our numbers are covered with mud. 

just my several dollars.  Thanks for considering.

ron
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Mike Murray

2010-11-09

Rest assured that that here are plenty of people already looking at this
problem. I can speak about it at length and those around me are beginning
to tire of me doing that. If anyone wants me to give them all the gory
details I can do that but it would probably be better to do that in a
different venue. Conversely, if there is anyone who has information I
would like to hear that (assuming it is more than "they used chips at this
race and they worked great" - I have heard plenty of that and the full back
story is never quite as rosy).

Mike Murray

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 14:18 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] new chip perspective

We live inside an important nest of high-tech. There are a good number of
"very smart people" who are trained to solve problems of all sorts. In our
case rider id in a nasty outdoor environment is the problem. I suggest
instead of re-hashing all the old crap that just keeps getting spit out
about this chip or that.... that someone who knows some high-tech brains, go
talk to some or one of them and get the creative juices flowing in him/her.
This is the same thing I do when doing artwork.... I do not let the box be
my limit. The creative high tech folks are the same. The thrive on this
sort of thing. And they live right here. Heck. Maybe some of them even
ride bikes!!!!! We need to not "depend on someone else from the East coast
or wherever to take care of us", but get our local creative brain trust to
tackle the mud-caked rider problem. DaVinci did not let the known be his
limits. Lets get some Silicone Forest people to just flat out make this
happen and in a way that does not break the bank. It can be done if someone
(with the tech knowledge) wants to make it happen. We can put humans on the
moon, talk on phones without lines, see into space beyond our imagination,
create missiles that can hit targets thousands of miles from where fired and
even a TV/ Auto remote control. Can't we just get a system that reads a
chip when a rider goes by the finish line? I don't really care about the
systems out there already... if they were so wonderful, we would have one
right? We have the biggest problem in the world (Cross Crusade hordes) and
the people right here to build the new mouse trap.... chip system. Maybe
it is not even a chip system....but that seems the logical idea at present.
Chips are amazing. They can have info. upgraded (cat B to A for example).
So Oregon...can we really be pioneers or dreamers?

So all of the negative brains out there go to work and start figuring out
why this will not work or whatever excuse you choose to come up with, that
always seems to happen. I just know that if nobody in a hotbed of high-tech
creativity like we live in here who also has the first hand environment
challenges (muddy cross races) to use as the lab..........then someone else
(in a land far, far away) will do it instead. I suggest people let their
high tech friends know.. and if they are negative...move on to the next one
you know until someone finds the person "excited" about taking it on. The
business part will come after the problem is solved. There is always an
excuse to say it can't be done.....but us bikers know we can make it to the
finish. There are new things to be discovered, we just need to get out of
"the line" to discover them. I just want a little chip in a cloth container
I pin on my jersey that gives the officials all the info they need to place
me even if I just nudge the rider behind me by 1/100th of a second. I am
free, the mouse trap gets him! :-) This simple information even though our
numbers are covered with mud.

just my several dollars. Thanks for considering.

ron


Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2010-11-09

We live inside an important nest of high-tech. There are a good number of "very smart people" who are trained to solve problems of all sorts. In our case rider id in a nasty outdoor environment is the problem. I suggest instead of re-hashing all the old crap that just keeps getting spit out about this chip or that.... that someone who knows some high-tech brains, go talk to some or one of them and get the creative juices flowing in him/her. This is the same thing I do when doing artwork.... I do not let the box be my limit. The creative high tech folks are the same. The thrive on this sort of thing. And they live right here. Heck. Maybe some of them even ride bikes!!!!! We need to not "depend on someone else from the East coast or wherever to take care of us", but get our local creative brain trust to tackle the mud-caked rider problem. DaVinci did not let the known be his limits. Lets get some Silicone Forest people to just flat out make this happen and in a way that does not break the bank. It can be done if someone (with the tech knowledge) wants to make it happen. We can put humans on the moon, talk on phones without lines, see into space beyond our imagination, create missiles that can hit targets thousands of miles from where fired and even a TV/ Auto remote control. Can't we just get a system that reads a chip when a rider goes by the finish line? I don't really care about the systems out there already... if they were so wonderful, we would have one right? We have the biggest problem in the world (Cross Crusade hordes) and the people right here to build the new mouse trap.... chip system. Maybe it is not even a chip system....but that seems the logical idea at present. Chips are amazing. They can have info. upgraded (cat B to A for example). So Oregon...can we really be pioneers or dreamers?
So all of the negative brains out there go to work and start figuring out why this will not work or whatever excuse you choose to come up with, that always seems to happen. I just know that if nobody in a hotbed of high-tech creativity like we live in here who also has the first hand environment challenges (muddy cross races) to use as the lab..........then someone else (in a land far, far away) will do it instead. I suggest people let their high tech friends know.. and if they are negative...move on to the next one you know until someone finds the person "excited" about taking it on. The business part will come after the problem is solved. There is always an excuse to say it can't be done.....but us bikers know we can make it to the finish. There are new things to be discovered, we just need to get out of "the line" to discover them. I just want a little chip in a cloth container I pin on my jersey that gives the officials all the info they need to place me even if I just nudge the rider behind me by 1/100th of a second. I am free, the mouse trap gets him! :-) This simple information even though our numbers are covered with mud.
just my several dollars. Thanks for considering.
ron