Re: House Bill 2228

Brooke Hoyer

2011-01-14

Representative Greenlick,
While I'm a Washington resident and you in no way represent me, I am compelled to chime in on the debate. I too am disturbed at the possibility that children might be injured or killed while passengers on a bicycle. However I don't think you go far enough. From my experience as a child I think there is a 100% likelihood that child operating a bicycle will experience a traumatic injury and a 50% likelihood that that injury will be serious enough to warrant a trip to the emergency room. I certainly collected a hefty collection of abrasions, contusions, and lacerations prior to the age of 10 as a direct result of operating a bicycle.
Clearly, children are being put at risk every single minute by their tomfoolery and inattention and it *must* be stopped. I strongly support your bill and hope that you strengthen it to include bans on bicycles, skateboards, scooters, or any other wheeled conveyance. As we both know, speed kills.
Regards,Brooke Hoyer


Jerald M Powell

2011-01-14

Mitch, Justin; there are many different reasons that different
cyclists ride, and a concomitant difference in the way they ride. A
cyclist out for exercise or sport rides a great deal differently than
a cyclist off to the store or commuting to work, for instance (note
that similar differences apply to automobile drivers). The argument
that because 30% of cyclists may be injured in a year, that rate of
injury, or indeed any injury at all may accrue to a child seated
either on a bicycle or in a trailer is simply not valid. Many
cyclists would agree that child carriers mounted on a bicycle are
problematic for the rider, even if the CPSC judges them to be "safe".
Trailers, on the other hand, generally affect the bicycle little and
create neither problematic distraction nor an unbalanced bicycle.
So I tend to wonder what really motivates your self-sponsored measure,
and how it becomes a bill in the house of representatives. Can you
cite a history of cycle accidents related to carrier of trailer use?
Is there, in other words, a reason such a measure is needed? Failing
such rationale, it really seems a solution with no apparent problem...
and one with a host of clear negative consequences.

Jerry Powell
1926 SW Madison St
Portland, OR 97205
503 222 7173
jpowell@spiritone.com

On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Long, Steve wrote:

> Justin,
> thank you for the documentation but I strongly disagree with that
> document. It's simplistic in its nature and doesn't take into account
> the diversity of our population.
> In my opinion, Mr. Greenlick should be focusing more on making our
> roadways safer for all vulnerable users.
> In 2010, there were something like 59 pedestrians killed in the
> State of
> Oregon. Maybe we should prohibit crosswalks and sidewalks as they are
> evidently very dangerous.
> This figure does not include bicyclists that were killed, of which I
> have no count but can tell you that we lost many during the year.
> Our attention would be better focused on how to make our roadways
> safer
> for all.
> How about if we start looking at how we can make cars safer to all
> other
> forms of transportation?
>
> Sincerely,
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rep Greenlick [mailto:greenlick.rep@state.or.us]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:24 PM
> To: Long, Steve
> Subject: RE: House Bill 2228
>
> Mr. Long,
>
> Thank you for writing to express your concerns about HB 2228. Our goal
> in introducing this legislation was to start a conversation about the
> safety of children when riding as passengers on bicycles and we
> welcome
> and encourage any input from the community that furthers that
> conversation. Attached is a statement from Rep. Greenlick that will
> hopefully address some of your concerns.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Justin Freeman, Legislative Assistant
> State Representative Mitch Greenlick
> District Office: (503) 297-2416
> Capitol Office: (503) 986-1433
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Long, Steve [Steve.Long@clark.wa.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:43 AM
> To: Rep Greenlick
> Subject: House Bill 2228
>
> Dear Mr Greenlick,
> I am curious what your proposal would be for a young mother of a four
> year old boy that doesn't own a car and can't afford one but does
> own a
> bike and a trailer. How would you propose she transport her son, which
> she undoubtedly loves a great deal more and any of us?
>
> Steve Long
> Milwaukie, Or
> 503-652-1202
>


Long, Steve

2011-01-13

Justin,
thank you for the documentation but I strongly disagree with that
document. It's simplistic in its nature and doesn't take into account
the diversity of our population.
In my opinion, Mr. Greenlick should be focusing more on making our
roadways safer for all vulnerable users.
In 2010, there were something like 59 pedestrians killed in the State of
Oregon. Maybe we should prohibit crosswalks and sidewalks as they are
evidently very dangerous.
This figure does not include bicyclists that were killed, of which I
have no count but can tell you that we lost many during the year.
Our attention would be better focused on how to make our roadways safer
for all.
How about if we start looking at how we can make cars safer to all other
forms of transportation?

Sincerely,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Rep Greenlick [mailto:greenlick.rep@state.or.us]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:24 PM
To: Long, Steve
Subject: RE: House Bill 2228

Mr. Long,

Thank you for writing to express your concerns about HB 2228. Our goal
in introducing this legislation was to start a conversation about the
safety of children when riding as passengers on bicycles and we welcome
and encourage any input from the community that furthers that
conversation. Attached is a statement from Rep. Greenlick that will
hopefully address some of your concerns.

Regards,

Justin Freeman, Legislative Assistant
State Representative Mitch Greenlick
District Office: (503) 297-2416
Capitol Office: (503) 986-1433

________________________________________
From: Long, Steve [Steve.Long@clark.wa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:43 AM
To: Rep Greenlick
Subject: House Bill 2228

Dear Mr Greenlick,
I am curious what your proposal would be for a young mother of a four
year old boy that doesn't own a car and can't afford one but does own a
bike and a trailer. How would you propose she transport her son, which
she undoubtedly loves a great deal more and any of us?

Steve Long
Milwaukie, Or
503-652-1202

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