In the Oregon code, the language reads (unless they've changed the language from when I researched this a couple of years back) "...complete cessation of motion."
So the ticketing officer can pretty much do what he wants, unless you turn off your vehicle (or dismount your bike and lay it on the ground) and proceed to die. Because it doesn't mention whether the "complete cessation of motion" applies to the vehicle, the operator, or both. Nor does it limit the motion which is to cease, to forward motion.
A well-written statute, to be sure.
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Alex Hansen
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] A rolling stop at a stop sign
Actually, I had a friend get a ticket about 2 years ago for doing
exactly that. He came to a full and complete stop, but didn't put his
foot down. Ticket. No amount of polite discussion could get him out
of it. In Oregon, if you want to be on the "clear" side of the law,
you've got to not just stop, but also put your foot down. Anything
less than that is an incomplete stop, and they can ticket you if
they're in a bad mood. Some officers may be more reasonable and
lenient, but the only way to GUARANTEE you don't get a ticket, is to
put your foot down.
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Fischler wrote:
> FWIW, I was told by a cop in Portland that your wheels had to come to a full stop. He said, "If you do a track stand for a sec, you're good".
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> I go by that in general.
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> On Feb 8, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Stewart Campbell wrote:
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>> I've alwaysed wondered about this? What is the most recent, official law about stop signs. When I moved here 12 years ago I thought I heard that a cyclist has to treat a stop sign as a yeild sign if no one else is there, and if someone else is at the intersection then you treat it as a stop sign.
>> Then I thought that I heard that they changed the law around 2002 (?) that you have to stop. But then all the commuters downtown protested by forming a long line and coming to a full 3 sec stop during evening rush hour. This backed up all traffic so bad that they changed the law back to just yeilding if no one else is at the intersection.
>> But in recent years I only hear that stop means stop.
>> Honestly, I'm about half and half. If no cars are around I'll slow and yeild. But when I'm around cars I try to set a good example for cyclist and follow all the laws. Like if I'm pulling up to stop light behing 3 cars and there is no desginated bike lane, I'll stay behind the three cars instead of riding in the gutter right up to the light.
>> What about stop lights that are activated by metal and a carbon fiber bike does not have enough metal to chage the light? Do you wait there forever?
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