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> 1. FS: Selle Italia SLR Kit Carbonio Flow (Mike Sheppard)
> 2. WTB: B.O.B. Trailer (Brian Schultz)
> 3. David Weymann is out of the office. (David_Weymann@URSCorp.com)
> 4. Fwd: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin: Please forward to
> OBRA List. (T. Kenji Sugahara)
> 5. Re: Fwd: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin: Pleaseforward
> to OBRA List. (Long, Steve)
> 6. UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc (jon.ragsdale@comcast.net)
> 7. Re: Fwd: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin: Pleaseforward
> to OBRA List. (Candi Murray)
> 8. Re: UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc (Ron and Dorothy Strasser)
> 9. Re: UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc (Karsten Hagen)
> 10. Re: UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc (jason pfeifer)
> 11. Re: UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc (Rick Johnson)
> 12. FS: Zipp 303 Tubulars with tires NEW (Andy Kappler)
> 13. Panams (sehsrugby@yahoo.com)
> 14. Tom Simon (Chipp)
> 15. UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc (Matthew Case)
> 16. Horning's MTB Race Course. Conditions, Pre Ride, Etc...
> (James Jonke)
> 17. Re: Horning's MTB Race Course. Conditions, Pre Ride, Etc...
> (Evan Plews)
> 18. Re: UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc (Ron and Dorothy Strasser)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 12:36:53 -0700
>From: "Mike Sheppard"
>To:
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: Selle Italia SLR Kit Carbonio Flow
>Message-ID: <0e4501cbf624$50deb7e0$f29c27a0$@com>
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>For Sale
>
>Selle Italia SLR Kit Carbonio Flow - black
>
>Selle Italia's top saddle - only 115g
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>Carbon composite shell and carbon rails
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>New
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>$150 obo
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:08:56 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Brian Schultz
>To: OBRA
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] WTB: B.O.B. Trailer
>Message-ID: <121979.22113.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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>A friend is setting out on a cross-country bike tour this summer and is looking
>for a BOB trailer. If you have one you're looking to sell, please contact him
>directly: L.E. Baskow - le@lefteyeimages.com
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>From: David_Weymann@URSCorp.com
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] David Weymann is out of the office.
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>I will be out of the office starting 04/08/2011 and will not return until
>04/10/2011.
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>I am out of the office with minimal cell coverage.
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:41:46 -0700
>From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
>To: ""
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin:
> Please forward to OBRA List.
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>From: Scott Goldstein
>Date: Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:53 PM
>Subject: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin: Please forward to OBRA List.
>
>
>
>Hello OBRA members:
>
>
>
>It?s the Second Friday in April and that means two things for bike racers in
>the Northwest:
>
>1) The weather in Kings Valley Oregon is now perfect for bike racing
>and;
>
>2) The Second Saturday in April and thus the Nearly World Famous Kings
>Valley Road Race is tomorrow!
>
>
>
>A few final thoughts prior to the race tomorrow:
>
>
>
>1) Ask your teammates who have attended our race for many years about
>the weather at Kings Valley. Regardless of the forecast or what it?s like
>in Portland at 6:00 AM, it is almost always excellent racing weather in
>Kings Valley on the morning of the Second Saturday in April.
>
>2) Note that the Kings Valley Store no longer sells gas, so don?t plan
>on getting gas in Kings Valley. Do stop in for post-race food, however as
>they have sandwiches and an assortment of post-race bike racer snacks.
>
>3) Please help us retain this course for the future by respecting the
>local folks before, during and after the race. Remember, it is their
>community and ultimately it is the local community that decides to let us
>use their beautiful course for our race every year. The major ?good bike
>racer citizen? requests are as follows;
>
>a. Make use of the ample Kings Valley Commemorative Portapotties for
>your ?private time? ?needs.
>
>b. Don?t trespass on the staging area?s neighbor?s property, and
>
>c. Keep the finish area road clear after you finish racing. Prize
>presentations will begin shortly after race finishes, thanks to the
>cleverness of your OBRA officiating crew, so make your way to the start area
>after you finish your race.
>
>4) Observant readers of the OBRA ruleset will notice that the Kings
>Valley Road Race has a stricter centerline rule than is currently in effect
>for OBRA single day races in general. If you cross the centerline, the
>officials will disqualify you if they determine that your action merits
>disqualification.
>
>5) Finally, we?d like to recognize the Therapeutic Associates
>Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Team for helping us again this year with support
>drivers for the Women?s fields..
>
>
>
>
>
>Kings Valley Race-day Forecast:
>
> [image: AM Clouds / PM Sun]
>*High: 65?*
>Low: 48?
>
>Chance of Precipitation: 4.2%
>
>
>
>See Y?all at The Race!
>
>
>
>
>
>Scott Goldstein
>
>Chief Financial Officer
>
>[image: cid:image001.jpg@01CBB66F.0311E2C0]
>
>96 EAST BROADWAY
>
>EUGENE, OR 97401
>
>
>
>DIRECT 541-684-7505
>
>GENERAL 541-684-7500
>
>FAX 541-684-7555
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:07:29 -0700
>From: "Long, Steve"
>To: ,
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin:
> Pleaseforward to OBRA List.
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>Sure wish I could remember what side the numbers went at KV. J
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>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 3:42 PM
>To:
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin: Pleaseforward to OBRA List.
>
>
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>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Scott Goldstein
>Date: Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:53 PM
>Subject: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin: Please forward to OBRA List.
>
>
>
>
>Hello OBRA members:
>
>
>
>It's the Second Friday in April and that means two things for bike racers in the Northwest:
>
>1) The weather in Kings Valley Oregon is now perfect for bike racing and;
>
>2) The Second Saturday in April and thus the Nearly World Famous Kings Valley Road Race is tomorrow!
>
>
>
>A few final thoughts prior to the race tomorrow:
>
>
>
>1) Ask your teammates who have attended our race for many years about the weather at Kings Valley. Regardless of the forecast or what it's like in Portland at 6:00 AM, it is almost always excellent racing weather in Kings Valley on the morning of the Second Saturday in April.
>
>2) Note that the Kings Valley Store no longer sells gas, so don't plan on getting gas in Kings Valley. Do stop in for post-race food, however as they have sandwiches and an assortment of post-race bike racer snacks.
>
>3) Please help us retain this course for the future by respecting the local folks before, during and after the race. Remember, it is their community and ultimately it is the local community that decides to let us use their beautiful course for our race every year. The major "good bike racer citizen" requests are as follows;
>
>a. Make use of the ample Kings Valley Commemorative Portapotties for your "private time" "needs.
>
>b. Don't trespass on the staging area's neighbor's property, and
>
>c. Keep the finish area road clear after you finish racing. Prize presentations will begin shortly after race finishes, thanks to the cleverness of your OBRA officiating crew, so make your way to the start area after you finish your race.
>
>4) Observant readers of the OBRA ruleset will notice that the Kings Valley Road Race has a stricter centerline rule than is currently in effect for OBRA single day races in general. If you cross the centerline, the officials will disqualify you if they determine that your action merits disqualification.
>
>5) Finally, we'd like to recognize the Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Team for helping us again this year with support drivers for the Women's fields..
>
>
>
>
>
>Kings Valley Race-day Forecast:
>
>
>High: 65?
>Low: 48?
>
>Chance of Precipitation: 4.2%
>
>
>
>See Y'all at The Race!
>
>
>
>
>
>Scott Goldstein
>
>Chief Financial Officer
>
>
>
>96 EAST BROADWAY
>
>EUGENE, OR 97401
>
>
>
>DIRECT 541-684-7505
>
>GENERAL 541-684-7500
>
>FAX 541-684-7555
>
>TOLL FREE 877-566-5544
>
>
>
>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This electronic message (including any attachments) contains information belonging to Summit Bank, which may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this email is strictly prohibited.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>--
>Kenji Sugahara
>Executive Director
>Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
>Phone: 503-278-5550
>http://www.obra.org
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>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:34:59 +0000 (UTC)
>From: jon.ragsdale@comcast.net
>To: obra
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc
>Message-ID:
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>Would Kenji do a better job than McQuaid? :)
>
>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-to-enforce-rule-barring-pros-from-non-usa-cycling-events?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0
>
>
>UCI to enforce rule barring pros from non-USA Cycling events
>By: Kirsten Frattini Published: April 8, 22:50, Updated: April 8, 23:33
>
>Do you like this? Buzz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>American Cycling Association and Oregon Bicycle Racing Association speak out
>
>The International Cycling Union (UCI) has informed teams it will strictly enforce its rule prohibiting men and women professional riders from participating in events that are not recognized by a national federation. According to Chief Operating Officer of USA Cycling, Sean Petty, a letter was sent to all UCI team managers on March 14.
>
>"It applies to UCI men and women?s teams and communication should have gone to all registered UCI teams, men and women," Petty told Cyclingnews . "We sent a second email to the UCI team riders informing them of this rule just in case the team directeurs hadn?t gotten the word out. We are starting the racing season and we wanted to send it out as a reminder of the participation rules which we shared with their team directeurs in our email note in March."
>
>The UCI's Code 1.2.019 states, "No licence holder may participate in an event that has not been included on a national, continental or world calendar or that has not been recognised by a national federation, a continental confederation or the UCI."
>
>In addition, rule 1.2.021 states that, "Breaches of articles 1.2.019 or 1.2.020 shall render the licence holder liable to one month's suspension and a fine of 50 to 100 Swiss francs."
>
>The US currently has a total of 19 UCI-sanctioned men's and women?s teams that includes four ProTeams, two Professional Continental, 10 Continental teams and three UCI-sanctioned women?s teams, and many of the riders make their base in the USA for at least part of the season and use local races for training.
>
>"I?m not sure how long this rule has existed for but it has been there a while because it is a fundamental directive from the UCI, that everyone with a license must compete in events that are sanctioned by a federation," Petty said. "For non-USA Cycling sanctioned events there is no variance, they are simply the rules and the UCI teams and riders are obliged to follow those rules and they have to participate according to the UCI rules in races sanctioned by the national federation that is recognized by the UCI."
>
>The UCI has cracked down on enforcing rules over the past two years, beginning with its rules for participation in national level races. The issue surfaced at the Tour of the Gila in 2009 when Lance Armstrong wanted to bring his team to the race. The code prohibits ProTour and Professional Continental teams from competing in national level events. Only UCI Continental teams of the country, regional and club teams, national teams and mixed teams may participate.
>
>Discussions between USA Cycling and the UCI led to a temporary agreement whereby such teams could start three riders wearing nondescript clothing. However, UCI President Pat McQuaid announced that the code would be strictly enforced in 2011.
>
>"We started the process back in November at the NRC promoter?s summit in talking to the promoters of the NRC races that based on the participation rules and the UCI?s position that they were going to be enforced much more closely than in the past," Petty said. "That was my indication to the NRC promoters, was to not expect that if you are not a UCI race to see ProTeams and Pro Continental teams unless there is an exemption given by the UCI."
>
>The action affects a number of events in Colorado that are sanctioned under the American Cycling Association (ACA) and Oregon that are sanctioned under the Oregon Bicycle Racing Association (OBRA). According to Executive Director Kenji Sugahara, OBRA will reach out to USA Cycling a discuss the possibility of granting special exemptions.
>
>"This rule has never been enforced before so I'm puzzled why it's being enforced now," Sugahara said. "I'd guess that it's UCI being the UCI rather than USA Cycling. We've recently had a great working relationship with USA Cycling."
>
>In addition, Sugahara said that the code will not affect 99 percent of its membership. However, it will affect two events, the Cherry Blossom Classic and the Mt. Hood Cycling Classic which are not run under USA Cycling. The National Racing Calendar (NRC) Cascade Cycling Classic, however, is sanctioned under USA Cycling and riders on Continental teams are free to compete.
>
>"It affects a few of our riders, but it doesn't affect the fact that it's pretty lame," Sugahara said. "When we have great riders coming out of our program like Jacob Rathe and Ian Boswell to name a few, this move is pretty disappointing. I know our local riders enjoy having them race.
>
>"Frankly, if the UCI wasn't based in Europe I'd be making a move to take Pat's job given we have one of the most successful grassroots cycling programs in the US with the highest per capita ridership, period. In the end we'll see how this works out with our reciprocity negotiations with USA Cycling. Perhaps we'll work to have our events recognized albeit not sanctioned by USA Cycling."
>
>ACA Executive Director, Chris McGee was disappointed that the UCI decided to enforce the rule which will heavily affect the large number of domestic and foreign professional racers who live, train and compete in Colorado.
>
>Some of the professional riders who base themselves in Colorado are Ben Day (Kenda/5-hour Energy), Mike Friendman (Kelly Benefit Strategies-OptumHealth), Georgia Gould (Team Luna), Katie Compton (Rabobank-Giant), Danny Summerhill (Chipotle Development Team), among many others.
>
>"I think one of the reason that we have such a high calibre of racing in Colorado is because we have so many professional racers in our events," McGee said.
>
>"They are local ACA events but we will have between 10 and 20 professional racers who want to compete here when they are at home. I?m disappointed for them because it is a big part of their lives and I?m disappointed for us because our cycling community wants to embrace everyone from 8 year olds, who are just starting out, to having a place for our professionals to race too."
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 17:05:27 -0700
>From: Candi Murray
>To: "Long, Steve"
>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin:
> Pleaseforward to OBRA List.
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>One on the left, the other on the back pocket.
>
>Candi
>
>On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:07 PM, "Long, Steve" wrote:
>
>> Sure wish I could remember what side the numbers went at KV. J
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara
>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 3:42 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fwd: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin: Pleaseforward to OBRA List.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Scott Goldstein
>> Date: Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Kings Valley Road Race Final Bulletin: Please forward to OBRA List.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello OBRA members:
>>
>>
>>
>> It?s the Second Friday in April and that means two things for bike racers in the Northwest:
>>
>> 1) The weather in Kings Valley Oregon is now perfect for bike racing and;
>>
>> 2) The Second Saturday in April and thus the Nearly World Famous Kings Valley Road Race is tomorrow!
>>
>>
>>
>> A few final thoughts prior to the race tomorrow:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Ask your teammates who have attended our race for many years about the weather at Kings Valley. Regardless of the forecast or what it?s like in Portland at 6:00 AM, it is almost always excellent racing weather in Kings Valley on the morning of the Second Saturday in April.
>>
>> 2) Note that the Kings Valley Store no longer sells gas, so don?t plan on getting gas in Kings Valley. Do stop in for post-race food, however as they have sandwiches and an assortment of post-race bike racer snacks.
>>
>> 3) Please help us retain this course for the future by respecting the local folks before, during and after the race. Remember, it is their community and ultimately it is the local community that decides to let us use their beautiful course for our race every year. The major ?good bike racer citizen? requests are as follows;
>>
>> a. Make use of the ample Kings Valley Commemorative Portapotties for your ?private time? ?needs.
>>
>> b. Don?t trespass on the staging area?s neighbor?s property, and
>>
>> c. Keep the finish area road clear after you finish racing. Prize presentations will begin shortly after race finishes, thanks to the cleverness of your OBRA officiating crew, so make your way to the start area after you finish your race.
>>
>> 4) Observant readers of the OBRA ruleset will notice that the Kings Valley Road Race has a stricter centerline rule than is currently in effect for OBRA single day races in general. If you cross the centerline, the officials will disqualify you if they determine that your action merits disqualification.
>>
>> 5) Finally, we?d like to recognize the Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Team for helping us again this year with support drivers for the Women?s fields..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kings Valley Race-day Forecast:
>>
>>
>> High: 65?
>> Low: 48?
>>
>> Chance of Precipitation: 4.2%
>>
>>
>>
>> See Y?all at The Race!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Goldstein
>>
>> Chief Financial Officer
>>
>>
>>
>> 96 EAST BROADWAY
>>
>> EUGENE, OR 97401
>>
>>
>>
>> DIRECT 541-684-7505
>>
>> GENERAL 541-684-7500
>>
>> FAX 541-684-7555
>>
>> TOLL FREE 877-566-5544
>>
>>
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This electronic message (including any attachments) contains information belonging to Summit Bank, which may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this email is strictly prohibited.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kenji Sugahara
>> Executive Director
>> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
>> Phone: 503-278-5550
>> http://www.obra.org
>>
>> This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law.
>> _______________________________________________
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>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 17:55:32 -0700
>From: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
>To: , "obra"
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc
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>I may not be the brightest crayon in the box, but I do not understand why they would not let them ride in these races. If someone like Lance, or another big name were to come race here, that would do nothing but make the sport more popular with the public in general, get more kids interested and so many other positive impacts. Please. Someone explain to me why (with this rule) Jake cannot race PIR....right? To me this is a symptom of some sort of sickness which has hold of the UCI. It does not seem to make any sense. Maybe it will not take place if the government shuts down! :-)
>ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jon.ragsdale@comcast.net
> To: obra
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 4:34 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] UCI vs USAC/OBRA etc
>
>
> Would Kenji do a better job than McQuaid? :)
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-to-enforce-rule-barring-pros-from-non-usa-cycling-events?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0
>
>
>
> UCI to enforce rule barring pros from non-USA Cycling events
> By:
> Kirsten Frattini
> Published:
> April 8, 22:50,
> Updated:
> April 8, 23:33
> Do you like this?
> Buzz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> American Cycling Association and Oregon Bicycle Racing Association speak out
>
> The International Cycling Union (UCI) has informed teams it will strictly enforce its rule prohibiting men and women professional riders from participating in events that are not recognized by a national federation. According to Chief Operating Officer of USA Cycling, Sean Petty, a letter was sent to all UCI team managers on March 14.
>
> "It applies to UCI men and women?s teams and communication should have gone to all registered UCI teams, men and women," Petty told Cyclingnews. "We sent a second email to the UCI team riders informing them of this rule just in case the team directeurs hadn?t gotten the word out. We are starting the racing season and we wanted to send it out as a reminder of the participation rules which we shared with their team directeurs in our email note in March."
>
> The UCI's Code 1.2.019 states, "No licence holder may participate in an event that has not been included on a national, continental or world calendar or that has not been recognised by a national federation, a continental confederation or the UCI."
>
> In addition, rule 1.2.021 states that, "Breaches of articles 1.2.019 or 1.2.020 shall render the licence holder liable to one month's suspension and a fine of 50 to 100 Swiss francs."
>